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Big neck IC. Is it worth it?
More than anything I am looking for quicker spool up. Let me know your thoughts.
TIA
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87 GN T63E, PTE FM, MSD 50's, Atr DP w/ext gate, ATR 2 1/2 duals, 5 disc Vigilante Jimmys trans HR sway bar 10.87@125.01 1.52 60' on Alkycontrol and TT Speed density chip TTA#259 GT3255e, 50lb inj, RJC boost controller, THDP,MT DRs. 11.53@119.2. 1.64 60' Best MPH 121.04 Alky control TT SD chip. PLX SM-AFR WB, Power Logger,Jimmy's trans. 3200 Vigilante 5 disc LU |
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Easy one.. RJC boost valve. Complicated.. ball bearing turbo
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89 TTA Stock appearing 10.550 at 132.22 1.539 60ft 3850 race weight w/driver Always on 93 octane www.alkycontrol.com 727-570-9999 http://stores.ebay.com/ALKYCONTROL_W...eNameZl2QQtZkm |
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I wouldn't hack up a TTA intercooler .. it didn't set the world on fire years ago when we tried one
maybe your running pig rich ???
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Dan don't run your mouth if you cant run your car 86/87 GN and 89 TTA .. tons of parts !! Time to get out! Stuff has to go !!! Otherwise I am cutting it up and throwing it away email ttastage2@yahoo.com
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If I did do a big neck, I would buy one already done.
I do have a RJC boost controller. My base FP is set at 42 PSI per TurboTweak. The O2s at the end of the track are at 780. So I think the chip is close.I can make boost at the line, but it is slower than I like. I may try my Max Effort chip from my GN in the TTA to see if that helps. Or I may have some fuel taken out of the TT chip. How easy should it be to get boost off the brake on an almost stock car?
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87 GN T63E, PTE FM, MSD 50's, Atr DP w/ext gate, ATR 2 1/2 duals, 5 disc Vigilante Jimmys trans HR sway bar 10.87@125.01 1.52 60' on Alkycontrol and TT Speed density chip TTA#259 GT3255e, 50lb inj, RJC boost controller, THDP,MT DRs. 11.53@119.2. 1.64 60' Best MPH 121.04 Alky control TT SD chip. PLX SM-AFR WB, Power Logger,Jimmy's trans. 3200 Vigilante 5 disc LU |
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I will go the fuel route first. I just was not sure how much the stock IC impairs building boost.
Thanks
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87 GN T63E, PTE FM, MSD 50's, Atr DP w/ext gate, ATR 2 1/2 duals, 5 disc Vigilante Jimmys trans HR sway bar 10.87@125.01 1.52 60' on Alkycontrol and TT Speed density chip TTA#259 GT3255e, 50lb inj, RJC boost controller, THDP,MT DRs. 11.53@119.2. 1.64 60' Best MPH 121.04 Alky control TT SD chip. PLX SM-AFR WB, Power Logger,Jimmy's trans. 3200 Vigilante 5 disc LU |
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At low boost you have low air volume.. why would it.. makes sense. If you put a huge front mount... it wouldnt spool any faster. We're not talking WOT performance, we're talking spoolup.
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I've seen tooooo many cars put bigger IC and not pickup anything at the same boost. The core will flow better, thus having less pressure drop.. but depending on turbo and boost being run.. may not make a difference ET wise.
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89 TTA Stock appearing 10.550 at 132.22 1.539 60ft 3850 race weight w/driver Always on 93 octane www.alkycontrol.com 727-570-9999 http://stores.ebay.com/ALKYCONTROL_W...eNameZl2QQtZkm |
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Did it make it any faster? No, not much. However it allowed me to run more boost with no knock. Put all the mods together and the three PSI accounts for a lot. I would probably spend my money elsewhere now. Put the money toward an alky kit. Way more than 3 psi with an alky kit.
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I would like the car to 60' in the 1.60 range on the stock converter and MT DRs. And run 115MPH in the quarter on Alky and 93.
Looking for 11.50s to 11.80s.
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87 GN T63E, PTE FM, MSD 50's, Atr DP w/ext gate, ATR 2 1/2 duals, 5 disc Vigilante Jimmys trans HR sway bar 10.87@125.01 1.52 60' on Alkycontrol and TT Speed density chip TTA#259 GT3255e, 50lb inj, RJC boost controller, THDP,MT DRs. 11.53@119.2. 1.64 60' Best MPH 121.04 Alky control TT SD chip. PLX SM-AFR WB, Power Logger,Jimmy's trans. 3200 Vigilante 5 disc LU |
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To run 115-118 will need a bigger turbo than stock. Running a bigger turbo will need a looser converter. Unless you can bake a cake spooling it at the line for 3-5 seconds.
You may 115 in the winter with a nice tail wind and perfect conditions. On a stock turbo my best MPH was 113.5 once. Consistently ran 110-112. I could get the 1.6 60 foot on the D5 and the stock turbo.. that one is easy.. but mid 11 and 115-118 you'll need low 400's RWHP.. especially on a heavy TTA. Pt51 turbo, 3000 stall 12 inch conv, springs, boost in the 25-27 PSI range... should get there. Bo ran 11.34.. but his car was typically 11.5-11.7's with a TA49.. Some cars are faster than others. Look at the recipe's in the faq's section of this forum. HTH
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89 TTA Stock appearing 10.550 at 132.22 1.539 60ft 3850 race weight w/driver Always on 93 octane www.alkycontrol.com 727-570-9999 http://stores.ebay.com/ALKYCONTROL_W...eNameZl2QQtZkm |
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I have a GT3255 on it. The car ran 111MPH on 19lbs of boost. So at 25lbs it should pick up at least 4 MPH I would think. Here are my current mods
50lb inj RJC boost controller GT3255 turbo dump pipe Stock IC and stock DP(following everyone's advice and not upgrading these until running mid 11's) I have seen Regals trap at 118MPH with TE34s at 25lbs and 60' 1.58 on DRs with stock converters. So I think my goal of mid to high 11's @115 MPH with my current mods is pretty realistic.
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87 GN T63E, PTE FM, MSD 50's, Atr DP w/ext gate, ATR 2 1/2 duals, 5 disc Vigilante Jimmys trans HR sway bar 10.87@125.01 1.52 60' on Alkycontrol and TT Speed density chip TTA#259 GT3255e, 50lb inj, RJC boost controller, THDP,MT DRs. 11.53@119.2. 1.64 60' Best MPH 121.04 Alky control TT SD chip. PLX SM-AFR WB, Power Logger,Jimmy's trans. 3200 Vigilante 5 disc LU |
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Should.
I always make judgements on the slower side of the scale, if the car is faster.. great. I hate giving expectations then the car not realizing them. With the 3255.. 115 is doable.
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89 TTA Stock appearing 10.550 at 132.22 1.539 60ft 3850 race weight w/driver Always on 93 octane www.alkycontrol.com 727-570-9999 http://stores.ebay.com/ALKYCONTROL_W...eNameZl2QQtZkm |
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My honest goal for the car is consistent 11.80s. I would like to see an 11.50 on a good day, but I am not going to go crazy trying to hit that number. I do not want to change the IC or the DP. At most I would put on a big neck IC.
Once I get the alky kit put on, I am sure I will be talking to you Razor. ![]()
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87 GN T63E, PTE FM, MSD 50's, Atr DP w/ext gate, ATR 2 1/2 duals, 5 disc Vigilante Jimmys trans HR sway bar 10.87@125.01 1.52 60' on Alkycontrol and TT Speed density chip TTA#259 GT3255e, 50lb inj, RJC boost controller, THDP,MT DRs. 11.53@119.2. 1.64 60' Best MPH 121.04 Alky control TT SD chip. PLX SM-AFR WB, Power Logger,Jimmy's trans. 3200 Vigilante 5 disc LU |
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Sounds like a plan.
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87 GN T63E, PTE FM, MSD 50's, Atr DP w/ext gate, ATR 2 1/2 duals, 5 disc Vigilante Jimmys trans HR sway bar 10.87@125.01 1.52 60' on Alkycontrol and TT Speed density chip TTA#259 GT3255e, 50lb inj, RJC boost controller, THDP,MT DRs. 11.53@119.2. 1.64 60' Best MPH 121.04 Alky control TT SD chip. PLX SM-AFR WB, Power Logger,Jimmy's trans. 3200 Vigilante 5 disc LU |
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Whats a front sway bar? ![]()
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89 TTA Stock appearing 10.550 at 132.22 1.539 60ft 3850 race weight w/driver Always on 93 octane www.alkycontrol.com 727-570-9999 http://stores.ebay.com/ALKYCONTROL_W...eNameZl2QQtZkm |
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What boost are you leaving at and on what kind of tires?
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