Go Back   TurboBuick.Com > Tech Arena > Turbo Trans Am Tech
Register FAQ Members List Photo Gallery Mark Forums Read



Welcome to the TurboBuick.Com forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old January 6th, 2006, 06:05 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: South Bend, IN
Trader Rating: (1)
Posts: 1,163
Header Wrap

Is it a good thing or bad thing? I want to put some on my headers because I'm rerouting my wires and some get a little close to the header. However I was wondering if it's going to keep too much heat inside the headers. Will I lose any performance by putting it on there? Also for those of you who have header wrap already on your TTA did you do it with the headers on or off? If I have to take them off how difficult is it to remove the headers on the TTAs? I'll have the motor most of the way stripped down by then (intercooler, intake, valvecovers, most of the wiring will all be gone). I'm wondering about the same questions with the downpipe too.

Jared
__________________
- Jared
89 TTA 23k miles, PT51, 42.5lbs injectors, Walbro 340, 3000 Stall l/u, Vince Janis transmission
www.anniversaryta.com
www.turbotransam.com
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old January 6th, 2006, 06:28 PM
Junior Boost-Head
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hawai'i
Trader Rating: (0)
Posts: 987
http://www.centuryperformance.com/heatwraps.asp
__________________
Silent leges inter arma-Cicero
Semper Fidelis.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old January 6th, 2006, 11:10 PM
j13smiley's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: OH, USA
Trader Rating: (0)
Posts: 452
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie-87plz
nice info!
__________________
SMILEY - THE WEBSITE - Detailing, Tuning, & other junk
1999 Trans Am, White, M6 ....
1998 Formula, Black, M6
Dyno : 315 RWHP, 326 TORQUE (before cam and headers)
Mods : ASCD WS6 hood, GM lower airbox, Whisper lid, K&N, SLP LT, Random Tech cats, Borla (2/3 open), SVO 30# injectors, GM Hotcam, LS6 Springs, NGK TR55 (.052) plugs & MSD 8.5 wires, Kirban, T/A Girdle, SLP SFC (Bolt-ons), BMR STB, !PAS, Starter Button, Garage Door Button
1989 20th Anniv Turbo Trans Am #264 | .....
1996 Tacoma | 4x4, Xtracab, 3.5" Fabtech, 2" body, 32" tires, nerf bars
1989 Sentra|Rusty, but my original baby
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old January 6th, 2006, 11:24 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: South Bend, IN
Trader Rating: (1)
Posts: 1,163
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie-87plz
Yeah I have thought about going with Jethot coating but how hard is it to remove the headers? About how much does Jethot coating cost?
__________________
- Jared
89 TTA 23k miles, PT51, 42.5lbs injectors, Walbro 340, 3000 Stall l/u, Vince Janis transmission
www.anniversaryta.com
www.turbotransam.com
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old January 7th, 2006, 02:44 AM
Junior Boost-Head
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hawai'i
Trader Rating: (0)
Posts: 987
http://www.jet-hot.com/Pages/tech1.html

http://www.jet-hot.com/Pages/coatings.html

http://www.jet-hot.com/pages/getestimate.php

Hope this stuff helps.
__________________
Silent leges inter arma-Cicero
Semper Fidelis.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old January 7th, 2006, 12:30 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Crestview, FL
Trader Rating: (0)
Posts: 403
You may also want to check out http://www.swaintech.com/ I had them do my headers and turbo housing and they turned out great.
__________________
89 Turbo Trans Am #1308
545 rwhp 578 rwtq
Sorta Stock
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old January 7th, 2006, 07:38 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: On the move
Trader Rating: (0)
Posts: 95
I had swain tech do mine and I love it. The coating is paintable, here is what mine looked like after I got them back and painted them with the high temp paint.

http://www.turbotransam.com/cgi-bin/...c.php?pic_id=9

http://www.turbotransam.com/cgi-bin/....php?pic_id=10

http://www.turbotransam.com/cgi-bin/....php?pic_id=24
__________________
89 TTA #81
91 Syclone #1595
87 Trans am GTA
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old January 7th, 2006, 08:14 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: South Bend, IN
Trader Rating: (1)
Posts: 1,163
Alright well my main question is how hard are they to remove? Also is it very hard to get them to seal correctly when you reinstall them? Thanks for the links.
__________________
- Jared
89 TTA 23k miles, PT51, 42.5lbs injectors, Walbro 340, 3000 Stall l/u, Vince Janis transmission
www.anniversaryta.com
www.turbotransam.com
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old January 8th, 2006, 03:56 AM
Junior Boost-Head
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hawai'i
Trader Rating: (0)
Posts: 987
I've heard that Swain and some other companies also coat the piston skirts, the intake manifold can be done...come to think of it, if your wallet is deep enough, anything can be done...maybe including the Porsche setup where it squirts oil to the bottom of our pistons to cool them off...
__________________
Silent leges inter arma-Cicero
Semper Fidelis.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old January 8th, 2006, 12:20 PM
AKTURBOTA's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Eagle River, Ak
Trader Rating: (1)
Posts: 292
Quote:
Originally Posted by GMC-YA
I had swain tech do mine and I love it. The coating is paintable, here is what mine looked like after I got them back and painted them with the high temp paint.

http://www.turbotransam.com/cgi-bin/...c.php?pic_id=9

http://www.turbotransam.com/cgi-bin/....php?pic_id=10

http://www.turbotransam.com/cgi-bin/....php?pic_id=24
Looks nice! How much did it cost you to get your headers and crossover pipe coated? Also how long did it take them once you gave swain tech your stuff?
__________________
1989 Turbo Trans Am #178, "291" 4.1 with ported irons and intake, rollerized valve train, 210/215 roller cam, PTS 9/11 3200 T/C, CPT66 BB, stock IC with Duttwieller neck in the works.

Previous combo: 11.79 @ 114.7 w/1.61 60' all time best with TA49. ATR bleed valve to control boost, Ext Chip - 23/19 timing, Translator Plus, LT1 MAF Sensor, 62mm T/B, ported plenum, 1" plenum spacer, 60# MotoTron injectors, Adj F/P reg, Walbro 340 F/P, Action Fab 3” D/P, freeflowing exhaust with testpipe, 110# valve springs, PTS 9/11 Lock-up 2800 T/C, BFG Drag Radials on stock rims, Spohn Adjustable Torque Arm, Global West Subframe Connectors, Spohn Adj Panhard Rod, Spohn Lower Control Arms
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old January 8th, 2006, 02:09 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: CT
Trader Rating: (0)
Posts: 1,024
Quote:
Originally Posted by GMC-YA
I had swain tech do mine and I love it. The coating is paintable, here is what mine looked like after I got them back and painted them with the high temp paint.

http://www.turbotransam.com/cgi-bin/...c.php?pic_id=9

http://www.turbotransam.com/cgi-bin/....php?pic_id=10

http://www.turbotransam.com/cgi-bin/....php?pic_id=24
Interesting... you painted yours gray with something like VHT? I left mine white. I had mine done maybe 5 years ago. Still look great and you just touch them up with hi-temp paint if you need to. Glad someone else likes Swain. Everyone called me a jerkoff for 4 years for using them. I had my pistons and stuff done for the hell of it when I rebuilt my motor.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old January 9th, 2006, 04:14 PM
2QUIK6's Avatar
Turbo Milk Jug displacmnt
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Ft. Worth, TEXAS
Trader Rating: (0)
Posts: 3,781
I've had both the ceramic coating, and stainless, and used the wrap stuff.
The wrap is going to keep the heat out of the engine bay, in fact you can even touch it after making a run, cermic coating is still going to allow a lot of under hood heat...BUT
Never use wrap where oil may drip on it..ei under you valve covers, otherwise your car may go up in FLAMES!
I use it on the downpipe only. Keeping the gases hot aids in pushing them out the pipe easier and helps for spoolup...it would be great to keep in all the heat all the way up to the turbo using a wrap, but due to the oil and fire issue, that is not possible...so ceramic coating is the next best thing.
__________________
Rob

'87 Grand National Owned 17 years. 65#inj,HW 307, THDP,V4 IC, GT6131E, alky, no cat, Cold Air kit, Del-alum fronts, Gen2 T+ w/LS1 & LM1/LMA3 WBO2, JJ TB mod, 3000 PTS 9x11conv, Direct Scan, best 1/8th 7.23@96, best 1/4 11.61@119, 1.66 60'
'79 10th Anniv. T/A 6.6 all original 4-spd
'89 20th Anniv. TTA #426 stock, 15k miles.
'99 30th Anniv TA #707 Conv 1 of 535 conv..rarer than a GNX.
'95 Trans Am Conv LT1 w/LPE 211/219, LE2 ported heads/intake, and LTs/true duals
'94 Silverado LT4 w/LPE 211/219.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old January 9th, 2006, 05:55 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: On the move
Trader Rating: (0)
Posts: 95
AKTURBOTA, I cant remember the turn around time exactly but I think it was about a week or so, the price was 220 plus 20 for shipping.


mark b The color that the headers are painted in the pic was a cast iron color. It was only a 900 or 1200 degree paint, it didnt last. I had to take them back off and respray them with a 1500 degree paint from the autoparts store. They only make that paint in three colors that I could find. Black white and silver. I went with silver, its a little brighter of a silver than I wanted but it still looks good I think. I dont have a pic of the new color or I would of posted. The 1500 degree paint has held up great with no sign of flaking or peeling.

HTH
Chris
__________________
89 TTA #81
91 Syclone #1595
87 Trans am GTA
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old January 9th, 2006, 06:04 PM
AKTURBOTA's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Eagle River, Ak
Trader Rating: (1)
Posts: 292
They sure do look nice! I think that I may pursue getting my headers coated as well. I am working toward getting my TTA with a blown HG back on the road, and would like to "pretty up" the headers at the same time.

Mark
__________________
1989 Turbo Trans Am #178, "291" 4.1 with ported irons and intake, rollerized valve train, 210/215 roller cam, PTS 9/11 3200 T/C, CPT66 BB, stock IC with Duttwieller neck in the works.

Previous combo: 11.79 @ 114.7 w/1.61 60' all time best with TA49. ATR bleed valve to control boost, Ext Chip - 23/19 timing, Translator Plus, LT1 MAF Sensor, 62mm T/B, ported plenum, 1" plenum spacer, 60# MotoTron injectors, Adj F/P reg, Walbro 340 F/P, Action Fab 3” D/P, freeflowing exhaust with testpipe, 110# valve springs, PTS 9/11 Lock-up 2800 T/C, BFG Drag Radials on stock rims, Spohn Adjustable Torque Arm, Global West Subframe Connectors, Spohn Adj Panhard Rod, Spohn Lower Control Arms
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old January 10th, 2006, 03:01 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Washington
Trader Rating: (0)
Posts: 92
Quote:
Originally Posted by 72firebird
Alright well my main question is how hard are they to remove?
About the hardest part is getting the car jacked up. Remove or loosen the turbo, a couple brackets for the accessories, cross over and dip-stick tube. I had my down pipe out when I did it but it may not be required.

There is a sealing product out there that works well. I think it's Permatex Ultra-Copper but not sure. Do a site search.
__________________
TTA
86 GN
69 Z/28
70 Chevy PU
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:24 AM.

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0
One of the largest message boards on the web !