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Old October 31st, 2007, 10:25 AM
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Innovative is still around, what's not to like, large shaft, rebuildable double BB turbos with easy for the DIY'er NPT water fittings.

And they were building them long before PTE said they didn't work on our cars.
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Old January 13th, 2008, 10:52 AM
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Innovative turbo is no more as of December 2007.
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Old January 13th, 2008, 12:00 PM
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Patrick awesome info... you are the man to go to for info about this stuff.. very impressive..

this should be a sticky thread

here is another route for water cooler your turbo is you dont have a/c or heat


Nice set-up on the water lines. Were did you get/make the fitting for in between the lower hose .
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Old January 13th, 2008, 12:04 PM
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Innovative turbo is no more as of December 2007.
Wow another one bites the dust.
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Old January 13th, 2008, 02:02 PM
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So, are Turbonectics turbo's still single ball bearing?
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87 Harness and ECM, "484" block 4.1 J&E Pistons, Full floating stock rods, stock crank, Girdle, CHAMPION GNr heads fully ported, T&D shaft mounted, Comp 218-212 roller, 70mm tb, sheet metal upper, 4 inch inlet pipe, Turbonectics 72mm BB q-trim 4 bolt turbo, P.S. intercooler, atr headers, 3.5 dp, custom dual 2.5 stainless exhaust with utralflows

BRF 200r4 built with alto reds, Billet servo, Transgo shift kit, Forward drum, CK's 3600 9 inch nlu, custom pan with rear sump.

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Old January 14th, 2008, 11:21 AM
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Just got off the phone with Cotton's performance and they told me that my new turbo and all the new turbo's will be double ball bearing. And all the new turbo's will be the new F1 wheel.
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1984 GN Frame off resto. Full wieght with spare tire and jack. All opitions are in working order.

87 Harness and ECM, "484" block 4.1 J&E Pistons, Full floating stock rods, stock crank, Girdle, CHAMPION GNr heads fully ported, T&D shaft mounted, Comp 218-212 roller, 70mm tb, sheet metal upper, 4 inch inlet pipe, Turbonectics 72mm BB q-trim 4 bolt turbo, P.S. intercooler, atr headers, 3.5 dp, custom dual 2.5 stainless exhaust with utralflows

BRF 200r4 built with alto reds, Billet servo, Transgo shift kit, Forward drum, CK's 3600 9 inch nlu, custom pan with rear sump.

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Rick Head sold/left Innovative and started another company.

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Just got off the phone with Cotton's performance and they told me that my new turbo and all the new turbo's will be double ball bearing. And all the new turbo's will be the new F1 wheel.
No no no........ wrong info, the Turbonetics turbos are single Ball Bearing.. must have misunderstood Gerry, or he misunderstood himself... The F1 wheels are correct, all Tnetics have them as well as some of the other Turbo builders out there are beginning to use them..sorry for the confusion, this is Jack, give me a call if you'd like..
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So Jack is right. I called them back and Gerry said is was, and Jack was unable to talk at that moment. So I spoke to Turbonectics, and he said it was a single bb. Sorry guys.
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87 Harness and ECM, "484" block 4.1 J&E Pistons, Full floating stock rods, stock crank, Girdle, CHAMPION GNr heads fully ported, T&D shaft mounted, Comp 218-212 roller, 70mm tb, sheet metal upper, 4 inch inlet pipe, Turbonectics 72mm BB q-trim 4 bolt turbo, P.S. intercooler, atr headers, 3.5 dp, custom dual 2.5 stainless exhaust with utralflows

BRF 200r4 built with alto reds, Billet servo, Transgo shift kit, Forward drum, CK's 3600 9 inch nlu, custom pan with rear sump.

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Patrick, I'm considering a GT6765 BB .63. On the compressor housings, is there any compelling reason to go with one over the other? I am specifically looking at the E and S housings. FWIW, I have "3000 stall" 9/11, though it regularly goes 3200-3400 when I boost up at the line... higher at times

I ask because right now I have a 4" CAI leading to a 3" MAF and pipe to a PTE-52 with the 3" inlet. All good, but the 2" outlet feeds 2.5" IC piping. Seems like a waste, but is it worth the expense to go to a 4" inlet in order to get a 2.5" outlet? I mean, what would be the appreciable gain in regards to spool up or power?

As I see it, with the S housing I would also need to get a 2.5 turbo to IC hose, a 4" MAF pipe like the Buickgn.com 4" INLET Pipes with the insert to get down to the correct ID for the MAF. I suppose at that point I might put in a 3.5" MAF... why choke it with a 3"?

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S cover will have cooler charge temps than the E cover, as will the H cover have cooler temps over both the E and the S cover.
Slightly slower spool up tho when comparing the E cover to the H cover. Exactly how much, is not known. You can run 3" piping to the S cover, however, it would be best to run 4" piping on the S cover. 4" MAF pipe is a must for the H cover tho.
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Patrick, I'm considering a GT6765 BB .63. On the compressor housings, is there any compelling reason to go with one over the other? I am specifically looking at the E and S housings. FWIW, I have "3000 stall" 9/11, though it regularly goes 3200-3400 when I boost up at the line... higher at times

I ask because right now I have a 4" CAI leading to a 3" MAF and pipe to a PTE-52 with the 3" inlet. All good, but the 2" outlet feeds 2.5" IC piping. Seems like a waste, but is it worth the expense to go to a 4" inlet in order to get a 2.5" outlet? I mean, what would be the appreciable gain in regards to spool up or power?

As I see it, with the S housing I would also need to get a 2.5 turbo to IC hose, a 4" MAF pipe like the Buickgn.com 4" INLET Pipes with the insert to get down to the correct ID for the MAF. I suppose at that point I might put in a 3.5" MAF... why choke it with a 3"?

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Slightly slower spool up tho when comparing the E cover to the H cover. Exactly how much, is not known.
What about E vs. S? Negligible difference spool and power wise?


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