82 Grand National with TURBO

[cesarp]

http://adcache.collectorcartraderonl...6/47930046.htm

1982 Grand National with the TURBO

Talk about 1 of a kind !!!

[equalizer442]

more like 1 of a 16 of a kind

[cesarp]

you know what I meant... .... I don't think the other 15 are in that good of a shape... who knows....

[Gothmog]

Looks like a one of a kind to me..I never saw an 82GN painted THAT color, or maybe it was just the picture....

[6pack]

Originally posted by Gothmog
Looks like a one of a kind to me..I never saw an 82GN painted THAT color, or maybe it was just the picture....

Actually if you did not see an 82 GN that color it was not original. All 82 GN's had that paint scheme.

[FlyinGN]

paint look right. Maybe it was the picture..

[TT/A1233]

Paint and everything else looks correct. Now that's one HELLUVA car to own! Wish I had an extra $24,000 sitting around. Guess I'll be holding out for a low mile '87 Turbo Limited. Anyone know of one? Here's all I could find.

[jastrckl]

Out of curiosity, would "xray", the one white GNX maybe be considered more rare/valuable? since there was only one ever made in white. Is it still alive?

[TT/A1233]

X-Ray is still alive.

I don't believe that question has an answer. It's all about collector value which means supply vs. demand. I con't believe there's any way to find that out unless they're put on the market to see what they'd get.

In my opinion, X-Ray would be worth $50-$60,000 if it's still pristine and low miles with all GNx items with the car (jacket/hat etc).

[Gothmog]

I thought all 82 GNs were silver and Black this one looks silver and grey, that's all I'm saying.

[750H.P.V6]

Guy's,

As stated the turbo ' 82 GN is a rare item. I thought there were 215 82 GN's of which 15 were turbocharged. Maybe it was 16 but there aren't many. With this said it really isn't a popular collectable either. The car in the picture is a correct representation of an ' 82 GN and the paint scheme is right for the car. ' 82 GN's weren't black they were silver/grey. It's a very sharp car but not worth anything close to the asking price.

Neal

[Gothmog]

DUHHHHHHHHHH

Someone pick up the Dove book and tell me that's the same paint scheme

[750H.P.V6]

Guy's,

Here is some interesting info on the early turbo cars.
http://home.flash.net/~rjgeorge/

Enjoy

Neal

[equalizer442]

In my opinion, X-Ray would be worth $50-$60,000 if it's still pristine and low miles with all GNx items with the car (jacket/hat etc).

errrr, if im not mistaken x ray was the only white gnx, mint low mile black gnxs sell for 55 grand. i would gladly pay 75-100 grand for x ray mint or not.

[QWIKTURBO]

I think the guy that owns "X-Ray" has a couple of rare TTA's as well. I remember seeing some of them from an F-Body site but cant remember where. I'll look and if I spot it I'll put a link to it.

[b4black]

There were 25+ '82 GN with the 3.8 Turbo V6.

The were all charcoal gray and silver. (Not couting the 1/64 cars made by Johnny Lightning. )

This car is worth about ½ the asking price IMO. That's just what it sold for last year.

The Dove book shows the prototype '82 GN. It's gray and silver as well.


The GNX X-Ray is a non-GM, custom car.


HTH

[TT/A1233]

Originally posted by b4black
There were 25+ '82 GN with the 3.8 Turbo V6.

The were all charcoal gray and silver. (Not couting the 1/64 cars made by Johnny Lightning. )

This car is worth about ½ the asking price IMO. That's just what it sold for last year.

The Dove book shows the prototype '82 GN. It's gray and silver as well.


The GNX X-Ray is a non-GM, custom car.


HTH

The GNx and TTA are NOT GM cars. They started out as GM vehicles but since being modified aftermarket and marketed by GM dealers they are acutally MacLaren/PAS vehicles. The VIN's are specifically changed to reflect this. As far as the TTA is concerned if you open the driver's door there's a factory decal that says "THIS CAR IS MANUFACTURED BY PAS INC."

So the statement it's a non-GM car is correct but is a factory GNx as delivered from the MacLaren factory specifically made for a MacLaren employee. It was NOT a post-delivery repaint. Stock??....depends on your personal defintion of "stock" or "factory".

In my auto theft class which was taught by one of Michigan's foremost experts on stolen cars I gave him the VIN to my TTA. He said it wasn't valid since he can deciphre VINs without looking them up. I explained exactly what it was and he was still perplexed. That's how unknown this topic is.....

[b4black]

But the GNX and TTA were factory sanctioned cars converted for GM, contracted by GM and sold at GM dealers. The X-ray car was a ACS employee modifing a car for his one use. The public could be a GNX or TTA, but the white GNX.

I guess the big question would be who oned the car when it was converted - GM or the ACS employee?

[TT/A1233]

Originally posted by b4black
But the GNX and TTA were factory sanctioned cars converted for GM, contracted by GM and sold at GM dealers. The X-ray car was a ACS employee modifing a car for his one use. The public could be a GNX or TTA, but the white GNX.

I guess the big question would be who oned the car when it was converted - GM or the ACS employee?

By Federal Law as soon as sanctioned mechanical changes were made to the car and warranteed by the factory from stock they became those companies "manufactured" vehicles and the VIN's needed to reflect that. I can take a photo of my door sticker indicating the fact it says "MANUFACTURED BY PAS INC." Also, on the GNx, the A/C decal on the piping going into the firewall says ASC MacLaren and not GM.

As far as I'm concerned X-Ray came from MacLaren white with white paint codes and that makes it an oroginal white GNx in my book. What else do you need?

[b4black]

Me? I don't need diddly. No pictures or anything. I know what it is. ASC, PAS, MacLaren, Rosch, Saleen or whoever came make whatever they want. There are factory cars and there are non-factory cars. You don't need to explain it further. I understood it well before this thread.

We read different books. For me, it's who prompted the the vehicle's production.

[Gothmog]

If b4Black says its grey... its grey, but I would have bet my life that the car on the the Dove book is Black with silver.