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"Red light" Traffic Cameras
Got into a situation at a intersection the other day.
An 18 wheeler ahead of me had to slow down to make a turn and brought traffice to a stop. I was the third car behind the truck, and got caught right in the middle of a "red light camera" monitored intersection. Don't need to get into these situations, but sometimes they can not be avoided. Anyone know if the clear overspray paint work for red light camera's? I just see if this is legit. No More Red Light Camera Tickets. Make Your Car Invisible To Police Speed Cameras With Our License Plate Cover, PhotoBlocker Spray, Radar Detectors, GPS, GPS Camera Detectors. Got A Traffic Ticket? Don’t Pay Yet. We Can Help Fight Your Speeding
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By the way, a co-worked told me this was tested on MythBusters. "REVISITED: A speed camera can be beaten by commercial spray. Re-busted The commercial spray failed to obscure the license plate." MythBusters Episode 84: "Myth Evolution"
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IIRC Those clowns over on Top Gear proved that you could beat those red light cameras..............all you need to do is run the light going faster than 176MPH.
You better start building some more power into the GN.
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Did you get a ticket? I would think the interection camera would build in some type speed calc (perhaps a double picture) for unavoidable stopped or slow moving traffic where a car was stuck in the middle of an intersection.
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You could always install a bikerack and have a bicycle hanging back there. That's not illegal is it? Especially if you have lots of reflectors in the spokes.
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That spray on crap doesn't work - they tested it on mythbusters.
Don't run the light. And if you have an odd situation, the camera should capture the "situation" as well.
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they're putting those stupid things up all over the place in toronto, and the most irritating part is how small the sign to warn you about them is.
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red light cameras are just a bunch of crap. They are only there for revenue. Cobra has a radar detector or nav or something like that, that alerts a person to an intersection that has a red light cam. Of course the politicians were trying stop it and after a debate with Cobra finally agreed that stop light cams are only out there for plain old revenue.
Cobra set to unveil red-light camera / radar detector - Engadget The Man can go screw himself!
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MythBusters did indeed "bust" all these "traffic ticket products", none of them worked. Who knows... maybe it was set-up, I doubt law enforcement would want them on TV advertising that a certain product actually WOULD fool the camera.
Frankly I love the red light cameras, especially at night when you can see the flash go off and tell when someone gets busted. There's only one intersection with the camera on my way home from work but every night it brings a smile to my face to see idiots getting tickets. And like someone mentioned above, if you're in a "situation" like stuck behind a truck etc, that should all show up on the picture and you can fight the ticket and tell them to look at the picture and see how you got stuck in the intersection. Obviously they aren't a fool-proof system and unfortunately some people are going to get their picture taken when they didn't purposely run the red light, but there's just no way for actual police offers to keep up with all the idiot drivers on the road. Gotta keep people in line somehow. |
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While on one hand I am big "screw the MAN" its a money racket, on the other hand I think something needs to make a change. About one year ago a local intersection has more than tripled the amount of traffic coming through it. I see at least two cars per day run a red light, pisses me off. Something needs to happen, what I don't know. But if a red light camera is what it takes to stop some dumbass from running a light and hitting my wife and kids, then by all means put it up. I hate having to be "monitered" by big brother, but how do you control stupid people who can't follow the rules?
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Sorry!
If they help cut down on intersection wrecks, I'm all for it. I cannot count how many times I've almost been T-boned by a$$holes running reds. Happens at least twice a month here and my town has a population less than 12k. Any time people are willfully stupid, big brother gets involved.
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I'm mixed in my feelings, on one hand, there's 2 redlights within a few miles of my house that are absolutely RAMPANT with people running them, EVERY TIME THE LIGHT CHANGES to red you get at least 2 or 3 cars "pushing" through and they're extremely dangerous.
On the other hand I don't want no damned "robot" to give me a ticket. Put a real human there not a computer with no feelings and no sense of situations. The way people around here are, if we ever got one of those I bet it'd get shot up by a fellow redneck in short order
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What would happen if you mounted your plate at an angle where the camera couldn't read it? These cameras are only mounted 6 feet or so or higher off the ground,correct? Have the plate pointing down with a "scanmaster" type sun visor over the top edge and the camera couldn't read the numbers legibly. The plate is displayed and it's not altered so you jump through that louphole in the law.
I see a lot of sportbikes running around with the plate mounted to the bottom of the rear fender. You couldn't see them unless you were right up against the bike and looking there. Probally illegal as all hell but there would be no way a camera could read all of the numbers clearly.
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3 rys ago at Peterson and Western (Chicago) there was an accident at the intersection Clearly seen in the pictures,there was a copper standing off to the side waving everyone thru,I think was say $80,$80,$80,$80 ,I received a ticket and could not fight it since it was sent to my old address....
there is another at Foster and Pulaski ave in Chicago oh and Cicero and Lawrence List more in Chicago if you know...
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Anybody who thinks these things are a good idea is insane.
They are there for one reason and one reason only... to generate revenue. If they ever stop generating enough revenue as red light cameras they can be turned into speed cameras. Now how would you like them? And, statistically, they slightly reduce side impact collisions while greatly increasing rear end collisions. So it's not about safety. There is a reason some places are taking them down... some city leaders, believe it or not, do not let greed trump facts.
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) so I would love to see some real staistics on ur increase in rear end accidents. Maybe that would be true when they are first installed but after a while people remember where the cameras are and are looking for the yellow signs before the intersection that indicate "PHOTO ENFORCED". That to me makes the intersection much safer.
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Someone made a good point about rear-end collisions that I did not think of before. In Chicago the camera intersection I deal with is Peterson and Western and I do notice that when the light turns yellow, some people punch the gas to make the light and some people slam on their brakes because they worry that the camera will give them a ticket during the yellow, so I will agree that it's kinda ironic, the camera is trying to stop collisions in the intersection but almost creates collisions because of people stopping suddenly because they fear the camera. I have never seen an accident because of this but I do often see people stopping suddenly because they know the camera is there.
Go ahead and argue that "it's just for revenue". Fine with me, makes me happy to know that the jerk blowing through the redlight will be getting a bill from the city for some money. |
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I watched on the news that bolingbrook was shutting the cameras off for some legal reasons.Fly by night insurance companies probably dont like them because there is proof of who caused an accident and then they will have to pay. I almost got t-boned buy a guy that had appolo insurance. he clipped the front of my car after running through a stopsign at 50mph. Appolo insurance told me i did not keep a proper lookout. I laughed at the lady. She said there was nothing I could do. Boy was she wrong.I had a $500 car and ended up with $3500. If there would have been a camera there .It would have been cut and dry.
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I also have a problem with random roadblocks and "safety checks" but that is for another thread. Missouri: Police Roadblock Harassment Caught on Tape
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Was in traffic this weekend and I was stopped a the green light. Traffic was backed up and the car (in front of me) was in the middle of the intersection, STOPPED! Guess what? The car got flashed! I wonder if they will get a ticket.
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Here in the Republic of NJ, at one time they installed radar cameras. That only lasted about 1-2 months. The radar cameras could not be tested nor calibrated as we LEO are supposed to do everytime we turn our radar units on.
We don't have red light cameras here in NJ. I was T-boned in my truck by a girl that ran a red light. It was a he-said she-said story but when she hit me, she pushed me into the truck next to me also. The truck next to me and myseld were in the intersection when the collision happened. She cried that we both ran the light .The topic of people slamming on their brakes on camera intersections, don't tailgate. Here in NJ, you can get a summons for running the yellow/amber light. People today don't have any accountability of their actions. Billy T. gnxtc2@aol.com
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Some of you people sound like you got your license at Auto Zone.
When you took a written test did it say "a yellow light means 1) stop, light is turning red. 2) hit the gas and get through before the light turns red, 3) hope no one is looking and continue on. You are not supposed to enter an intersection unless you can pass all the way through. If there are cars in the intersection you have to wait until they clear before continuing. When you get flashed you have entered the intersection after the light turned red or were in the intersection when it turned. See above. It would be nice if the police departments had resources enough to sit at major intersections but then all these tickets would be fought. The camera don't lie. Answer..........Don't run red lights.
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Jerryl, we are starting to get them here in Ft.W now and several other surrounding cities. The way they work here is if you are already in the insection before it turns RED, the camera will not catch you.
There are sensors a few feet in front of the stop line..if you cross those sensors with more speed than can reasonably be used to stop the car before the stop line ONCE THE LIGHT IS RED, not yellow, then the camera takes your picture. So if you are already passed the stop line before the light hits RED you should be ok. The cameras are designed to catch those folks that are blatenly passing thru the light once it hits red. The courts would have their hands full if they were set to catch you if you passed the line when yellow and it hit red when in the middle...although its against the law technically, it would not be something that causes accidents because you are already in the middle of the intersection before anyone elses light turns green. At least thats the way it was explained on dozens of times on the local news channels here when they started putting them in. I'd think they would be the same across Texas. You can always glue a leaf to your plate blocking some numbers..mother nature stuck it there
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But, it is easier said than done sometimes. Scenario; You are driving your Buick around cruising doing 35 mph. There is a semi trailer in front going through an intersection. You watch the semi slow down to make a turn and the light is green, which implies “OK to continue through the intersection” (Right?) Just as you look at the semi, it slows down considerably in the middle of the intersection and come up on the back …….. You can no longer physically see the traffic light nor can you see traffic. You are now with your rear bumper just past the “stripes” and look up …… The light is yellow. ………… See it is not about running a red light. Those people are stupid and deserve what they get. I am sure no one here has ever ran a light, not even accidentally. This is about doing the right thing and getting caught in an honest mistake. Kind of like taking your spouse on a hot date night. You make reservations at a very nice restaurant. They can not locate your reservation and with a 3 hour wait, you leave. Now your spouse is upset, because she has was dressed up and you ended up at Denny’s and you go home, not getting any lovin'.
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You know how much better traffic would flow in the city of Boston if people would obey this? DON'T ENTER UNLESS YOU CAN EXIT! And I'm not sure if this is universal, but in Mass I believe a yellow light means "stop if it is safe to do so". -BC |
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