TSM info

[Mike Licht]

Jesse,
I am not new to V bulletin I own 3 of them right now and use this version. It is possible to wipe stuff out with one click. I do not wish to argue about it I just was making a point that it is possible that it was a mistake and not another in the long line of Buick conspiricy problems that are going to somehow make someone wealthy or change the damn world. Grow up and lets get back to TSM
Mike

[Jesse]

Mike I was going to not reply back to your " one click theory" until you said .. Grow up so just like what I told Scott I will tell you ... I am no child and you him and anyone else that "assume" I am I can assure I am not.

Let me stick something in your lunch box Mr founding father and any other Nick protectors out there ...
I dont give a dam about tsm , tso , tse or any other race acronyms you guys come up with , any kind of Buick events or buying and selling Buick parts.
What I do give a dam about is the lies , deletions , the false since of friendships , the dishonesty and the gross negligents and misuse of administrative powers that have been happening on this board and others for some time now.
You guys call me a child or acting like a child because your friend has been busted doing some shady sh!t.

Mike and Scott your comments & opinions are bias on this topic , and Mike seeing as you own 3 sites then you also know what I say can be very (and are) true and it is very possible that the deletion of the TSM forum could have been done on purpose...or are you a horse with blinds on.

Jesse

[turbotwister]

Originally Posted by Jesse

Mike I was going to not reply back to your " one click theory" until you said .. Grow up so just like what I told Scott I will tell you ... I am no child and you him and anyone else that "assume" I am I can assure I am not.

Let me stick something in your lunch box Mr founding father and any other Nick protectors out there ...
I dont give a dam about tsm , tso , tse or any other race acronyms you guys come up with , any kind of Buick events or buying and selling Buick parts.
What I do give a dam about is the lies , deletions , the false since of friendships , the dishonesty and the gross negligents and misuse of administrative powers that have been happening on this board and others for some time now.
You guys call me a child or acting like a child because your friend has been busted doing some shady sh!t.

Mike and Scott your comments & opinions are bias on this topic , and Mike seeing as you own 3 sites then you also know what I say can be very (and are) true and it is very possible that the deletion of the TSM forum could have been done on purpose...or are you a horse with blinds on.

Jesse

You guys need to get your prioritys straight!


Nick,

[Cheeseburger]

Ooopps........my mistake, this thread exists in 2 places.

[gofstbuick]

Originally Posted by turbotwister

You guys need to get your prioritys straight!


Nick,

You are right about that. As forum leaders, we are responsible for the smooth operation of this board. IMHO, a forum leader's reputation is only as good the board's reputation (I got this idea from Razor). For too long we have dealt with unexplained deletions (forums and threads) and some heavy handed moderation tactics. Well, that is all about to change. We will still appropriately deal with rules violations and there may still be some deletions. But I guarantee that when an event like this occurs, it will be followed by an explanation (usually PM or email). IMHO this board should operate with very little interference from board administration. When it works that way, then the forum leaders can participate in all the board activities, just like the members (cause that's who we really are). Someone (who shall remain nameless) once said to Jesse "We don't need your sevices any more, we are heading in a new direction." That is only part right. We are heading in a new direction and the current group of forum leaders are committed to accomplishing the task of a smooth operating TurboBuick.com.

[turbotwister]

Originally Posted by gofstbuick

You are right about that. As forum leaders, we are responsible for the smooth operation of this board. IMHO, a forum leader's reputation is only as good the board's reputation (I got this idea from Razor). For too long we have dealt with unexplained deletions (forums and threads) and some heavy handed moderation tactics. Well, that is all about to change. We will still appropriately deal with rules violations and there may still be some deletions. But I guarantee that when an event like this occurs, it will be followed by an explanation (usually PM or email). IMHO this board should operate with very little interference from board administration. When it works that way, then the forum can participate in all the board activities, just like the members (cause that's who we really are). Someone (who shall remain nameless) once said to Jesse "We don't need your sevices any more, we are heading in a new direction." That is only part right. We are heading in a new direction and the current group of forum leaders are committed to accomplishing the task of a smooth operating TurboBuick.com.

AMEN!

[Snorman]

Originally Posted by Jesse

Let me stick something in your lunch box Mr founding father and any other Nick protectors out there ...
I dont give a dam about tsm , tso , tse or any other race acronyms you guys come up with , any kind of Buick events or buying and selling Buick parts.

Wow...just...wow.
That's a damn shame to hear these words come from an "administrator" on a turbo Buick board.
It's really no wonder the turbo Buick community is on a slippery slope of decline with attitudes like this.

S.

[Scott231]

Originally Posted by Snorman

Wow...just...wow.
That's a damn shame to hear these words come from an "administrator" on a turbo Buick board. It's really no wonder the turbo Buick community is on a slippery slope of decline with attitudes like this.

I too am quite shocked at such bluntness. So if you don't like it, why don't you just slit your throat and shut up about it?

Hehe, Mean Scott is back!

[turbotwister]

HEY JESSE!YOUR A TOOL!!!!!!!

TT,

[turbotwister]

Originally Posted by Scott231

I too am quite shocked at such bluntness. So if you don't like it, why don't you just slit your throat and shut up about it?

Hehe, Mean Scott is back!

DAMN JESSE!YA GONNA BAN SCOTT NOW?????????LOL!


HEY JESSE!YOUR STILL A TOOL!

[Geoff87]

Originally Posted by Jesse

I dont give a dam about tsm , tso , tse or any other race acronyms you guys come up with , any kind of Buick events or buying and selling Buick parts.

Guys, please don't take this statement out of context.

All he is saying is that he has no vested interest in the events, any Buick related business, or this board. I know this, because he (Jesse) has told this to me on several different occasions (not in those exact words, but the gist is the same).

[gofstbuick]

Originally Posted by turbotwister

DAMN JESSE!YA GONNA BAN SCOTT NOW?????????LOL!

It's kind of funny how you guys accuse Jesse of being heavy handed, but if you post those same comments about any admin on T6P you would be zipped up in a couple of blinks. It wasn't that long ago that a member got got put on vacation for posting bad feedback in the wrong forum. Since it wasn't me, Geoff87 or Jesse (or WE4 for that matter), then you draw your own conclusions.

Originally Posted by Jesse

I dont give a dam about tsm , tso , tse or any other race acronyms you guys come up with , any kind of Buick events or buying and selling Buick parts.

What Geoff posted is 100% correct. Jesse enjoys racing and we will all be at Las Vegas (WCN). But for some, racing does not rule our lives. Hopefully, we will get the opportunity to meet and get re-aquainted with members and friends. But some of us won't spend a majority of our time at the track. Some will be there and some will be taking in the sites at Vegas. I expect it will be a fun time for all and I'm looking forward to meeting a lot of Turbobuick.com members.

[turbotwister]

well ,thanks guys for the explanations.both of you seem like standup gentlemen.im sure it is in this websites best interest that you handle this situation in this manner.it seems to me its also the best way to handle it considering the "other" party involved either chooses to usually be irrational or just avoid the situation.his past actions have made me draw my conclusions.from what i hear,he will be gone soon enough anyway.

[turbotwister]

Originally Posted by Jesse

What I do give a dam about is the lies , deletions , the false since of friendships , the dishonesty and the gross negligents and misuse of administrative powers that have been happening on this board and others for some time now.

Jesse

As far as i know there is no "false sense of friendships" with you .i have seen and heard just about everyone express their opinions of you openly.and the list grows.
Nick,

[gofstbuick]

Originally Posted by turbotwister

from what i hear,he will be gone soon enough anyway.

Really, that's news to me. Both Jesse and Bruce know that this board has been runnung very smoothly for the last few months. The turmoil caused when Jesse was initially relieved spread like wild fire throughout the TR community. As far as I'm concerned, Jesse is a standup administrator who is just trying to do the best for the community. Bruce has always let us decide for ourselves and I 100% stand behind Jesse.

[turbotwister]

if everything is ok here in turbobuick.com land then why does this thread exist???????????????.just some food for thought.i am entitled to my opnion and my opinion says that certian people here need an atitude adjustment.

i am done rambling.back to more productive things for me.

Thanks ,Nick

[WE4]

And sorry to say, we are out of luck with retreiveing the threads in the racing forum we had. Once permantly deleted,which is what took place, it is gone forever.We tried but to no avail. So, we take what we have and run with it. If anybody sees some of the info we had around or has it on their harddrive, feel free to post it back up. I did what I could and well... we had a bad break. We will persevere, and go on. I know it sucks, but that is all we can do.
So, have at it. copy and paste what you would like to have on here. I will not say a thing. I am pretty upset about this but, what can I really do? I am not going to lose a ton of sleep over this, just restart and move on. This is actually a small hurdle compared to what we been through.
I do wish it never happened tho.
Again, I am very sorry guys, but I didn't do it.
I would like to see an apology, even tho I doubt I will ever see one.

Bruce
WE4
Tb.com admin

[gofstbuick]

This thread exist because TSM,TSO etc.,,, information used to exist on this board. A member inquired as to where the infomation went. In fact, early on, the owner of this board inquired about where this information went. Now that we know the answer, we are addressing the issues surrounding it past demise and trying to move forward by providing a forum (that previously existed) back to our members. We were hoping that Corbett can still restore the previous information, but we still need to move forward.