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June 30th, 2006, 10:14 PM
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any guys with art carr 9" non-lock up
hi, guys just wondering, i've noticed that my buick use's more gas now, that i have a new converter, is this normal?
 it's a 3200 if i'm right stall
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July 1st, 2006, 11:49 AM
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I think I have the same convertor, looks like to me the car does suck more gas now.
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July 1st, 2006, 01:58 PM
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I have the same convertor. What did you expect? You gave up between 200 and 300 rpm by losing the lockup. More rpm = more gas
 .John
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July 1st, 2006, 03:08 PM
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July 1st, 2006, 06:58 PM
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Yeah I wasnt going to post but more RPM=more gas Also if you try to drive easy with a loose convertor it might be worse. (had an old hot rod with 3500 stall TH350.
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July 2nd, 2006, 01:51 PM
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more rpm = more gas , well that explains that
 thanx, guys
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87 gn 83lb inj-atr's twin-in-tank fuel pump eric's 83lb alcohol chip-k&n- tranny 10 vain pump, art carr shift kit, art carr 9inch non-lock-up converter, tranny cooler, billet servo, razor's awesome alcohol kit, a 3 inch exhaust kit with waker ultra-flows, RJC's Megacooler ( it is HUGH!!) 70MM throttle body, hydrulic roller cam 218-212, precision's AWESOME!! 70MM Duel BB turbo, ( worth every penny guys) engine block machine'd and blue-printed, TH 3.5 dp. etc,etc,etc.
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July 2nd, 2006, 10:56 PM
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The performance increases over the stock type lockups are unsurpassed unless you want to buy a more expensive lock up unit or a 5 disc lock up which will really add a lot of $. Ive run the old Art Carr's with no problems ad they are proven performers. A few mpg doesnt bother me. Other mods will hurt fuel economy more than the converter itself.
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July 3rd, 2006, 04:56 AM
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I have an art carr converter. It was over $850! that's about the same as the vigilante.
Yup, bad gas milage. Awsome 60' and 1/8th times though. Better than any converter I've ever tried.
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July 3rd, 2006, 09:01 AM
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The non lock vigilante list is $630. Not sure why the CPT one is so much more. I know the CPT one has a billet cover. Not sure if that is the big cost difference or not.
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