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Old January 19th, 2008, 08:35 PM
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What times should i get.

I am hoping to get this done before this summer. Just want to know what times in the 1/4 mile i should be running or could get without going over 20lbs of boost.
new rebuilt stock turbo from kirbains. mine went out.
walbro 307 with hotwire.
3in down pipe and up pipe
duttweller neck
dull exughst or single shot
36lb injectors
alcohol kit
3in MAF sensor and translator
70mm throttle body and plenum
I do have a set of eBay headers but im going to have to stick with my stock ones seeing that the eBay’s don’t fit.
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I am hoping to get this done before this summer. Just want to know what times in the 1/4 mile i should be running or could get without going over 20lbs of boost.
new rebuilt stock turbo from kirbains. mine went out.
walbro 307 with hotwire.
3in down pipe and up pipe
duttweller neck
dull exughst or single shot
36lb injectors
alcohol kit
3in MAF sensor and translator
70mm throttle body and plenum
I do have a set of eBay headers but im going to have to stick with my stock ones seeing that the eBay’s don’t fit.
low 12 with a good TT alcooool chip and sticky slick
you dont need a 70 mm TB port and match the stock one

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Old January 20th, 2008, 01:33 AM
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i would say low 12's too but the 70 mm might hurt you since going bigger isnt always the best choice. start with stock and max it out before upgrading
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Old January 20th, 2008, 09:18 AM
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i would say low 12's too but the 70 mm might hurt you since going bigger isnt always the best choice. start with stock and max it out before upgrading
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I am hoping to get this done before this summer. Just want to know what times in the 1/4 mile i should be running or could get without going over 20lbs of boost.
new rebuilt stock turbo from kirbains. mine went out.
walbro 307 with hotwire.
3in down pipe and up pipe
duttweller neck
dull exughst or single shot
36lb injectors
alcohol kit
3in MAF sensor and translator
70mm throttle body and plenum
I do have a set of eBay headers but im going to have to stick with my stock ones seeing that the eBay’s don’t fit.
Why don't you want to run over 20psi?? I'm shooting for 11s with the combo in my sig.
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Old January 20th, 2008, 10:10 AM
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Kind of scared ill blow something i really don’t want to push it to much. how much boost could I run safely with alcohol. Yeah I kind of thought the 70mm throttle body would be a little to big.
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Old January 20th, 2008, 12:13 PM
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Kind of scared ill blow something i really don’t want to push it to much. how much boost could I run safely with alcohol. Yeah I kind of thought the 70mm throttle body would be a little to big.
10 psi more
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I am goin to say 13s... if you are afraid of racing the car because ya don't want to push it DON'T !!!!
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Old January 20th, 2008, 01:10 PM
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yeah im not looking to race very much ill probably only go to the track a few times to see what i can do.Mid to low 12's are what im shooting for.
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Old January 20th, 2008, 01:48 PM
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i didnt read your post right if you are not going to go over 20 psi your looking at a gain of 30 hp. i would say high 12's or low 13's
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doesn't say anything about tires either.. reg street tires Ill still say 13s
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Old January 20th, 2008, 03:20 PM
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The tires i have on their are Good Year Eagle GT+4 P215/65R15 they seem to grip well. What would be a good set to get?
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Old January 20th, 2008, 04:14 PM
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The tires i have on their are Good Year Eagle GT+4 P215/65R15 they seem to grip well. What would be a good set to get?
they are not going to grip well on boost launches. i would go with a mickey thompson street drag radial 235 60 15 if you are going to stay with a stock rim
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Don't worry about hurting your car. Mine has 150k on the clock. All thats done to mine is a new timing chain, and valve springs. Got mine set up on 25 lbs right now and it has no issues. I don't even have an alky chip yet, so my timing is really low too.
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Don't worry about hurting your car. Mine has 150k on the clock. All thats done to mine is a new timing chain, and valve springs. Got mine set up on 25 lbs right now and it has no issues. I don't even have an alky chip yet, so my timing is really low too.
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 11:34 AM
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87limitedt,warm air and stickey tires low 13s,cold air and stickey tires 12.60-12.80's,no stickey tires 13.80's or worse. 20psi with higher timing.i would not run any more than 20-22psi on the stock turbo with the alky being a must,if you feel you need to, just upgrade the turbo.never broke anything on 20psi on a stock turbo and 12sec et's all day long with a good hook.
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 08:46 PM
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if i was not using alcohol would race gas work as well.
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I am hoping to get this done before this summer. Just want to know what times in the 1/4 mile i should be running or could get without going over 20lbs of boost.
new rebuilt stock turbo from kirbains. mine went out.
walbro 307 with hotwire.
3in down pipe and up pipe
duttweller neck
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36lb injectors
alcohol kit
3in MAF sensor and translator
70mm throttle body and plenum
I do have a set of eBay headers but im going to have to stick with my stock ones seeing that the eBay’s don’t fit.
I had that setup last year, except for the 70mm tb, had to roll into throttle due to crappy street tires...best times was 13.6 @ 98mph...stock turbo no alky 17psi
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Old January 24th, 2008, 02:43 PM
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what if i wear to go with a Ta49 or a te44 and run about 20 to 25 psi.
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what if i wear to go with a Ta49 or a te44 and run about 20 to 25 psi.
thats a big gap in boost i would say with a good launch and 60 at 20 psi 12.80's and 25 psi low 12's to high 11's with some high timing
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Old January 25th, 2008, 01:06 PM
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