Who builds the very BEST Stage 2 Buick Engines?

[VegasSE]

Cost not a factor, who builds the best of the best? Excuse the questions please. I'm not new to cars, but I AM new to turbo Buicks, so I'm relying on the expertise of the community to steer me in the right direction. The cost of the engine is not my first priority. Building a streetable 1000+rwhp engine with some level of reliability is. If you could have anyone build you this engine, cost not a factor, who would it be, and how do I contact them? Thanks.

[49-blues]

3 people come into mind-Ken Duttweiller in Calif, Dan strezo in Indiana, Bobbie @ RPE in Hartford conn,also Nick Micale in Arizona. cant go wrong with any of them.

[VegasSE]

Originally Posted by 49-blues

3 people come into mind-Ken Duttweiller in Calif, Dan strezo in Indiana, Bobbie @ RPE in Hartford conn,also Nick Micale in Arizona. cant go wrong with any of them.

I've already spoken with Nick who seems like a fantastic guy. I tried to contact Anderson Performance, but nobody called me back so I guess they aren't THAT interested in a 50k build, their loss. I know a lot of the guys use RPE up in the East and I really can't seem to find any site or quality info on Duttweiller. Obviously I know who he is but I'd like to see a site, cars, etc.....and I cannot seem to find any collection of organized info in one place.

[DCVING 6]

My buddy made 1013 out of a DLS stage 2 motor. Dan has done MANY other high HP builds.

Dan Strezo
DLS Engine Development
886 E 900 N
Wheatfield IN 46392
219-956-3653
dlsengine@hotmail.com
Home

[VegasSE]

I realize there are probably a lot of guys who are really good, but all I care about is who is the VERY BEST. Track proven, street proven, dyno proven, reliability proven. Who is considered the very very best?

[geno]

DSL
Im pretty sure Dan has been building Buick stage motors sense Buick motorsports started making them. He worked at a shop that built them for ARCA cars for years (And won Championships)during the development If i didnt build my own motors it would be Dan for sure...
Gene Fleury

[S2V6RACER]

Dan at DLS built my latest S2 engine and it did everything it was advertised to do and more, set the TSO record and won the race even though I cut a HORRIBLE light in the finals also. Dan can and will help you with the component selection to compliment the engine. He will not steer you wrong. He is at home with BIG HP S2 engines and his shop if full of them.

I consider Dan the BEST in the business. Reliability is second to none.

[Noe]

If i were you i would give Ken Duttweiler a call at 805-659-3648 he is like the Godfather of turbo cars and there are alot of articles on him building extreme engines in HotRod magazines and my favorite GM High Tech. Just type in Duttweiler buick v6 and i am sure you will find something.

[ttypewhite]

DLS, info is in the sig. When Dan touches it, its GOLDEN!!!! Best of the best.

[VegasSE]

It's looking like I need to have a conversation with Dan.

[John Wilde]

I don't think you can go wrong with anybody mentioned.
If you are located in Vegas you should drive to Duttweiler's
shop before you make a decision. I think he operation, specifically
his dyno room will give you an idea of what he can do for you.

PM me if you have any questions.

[BandAid]

Sounds like you should have just bought a nice Stage car,instead of the long road ahead,best of luck...

[VegasSE]

Originally Posted by BandAid

Sounds like you should have just bought a nice Stage car,instead of the long road ahead,best of luck...

I don't like buying a car that has been raced or beat on. In my experience you are just asking to buy into problems. I'd rather have it done perfectly the first time and KNOW how the car was treated and taken care of from day one.

[Reggie West]

Originally Posted by John Wilde

I don't think you can go wrong with anybody mentioned.
If you are located in Vegas you should drive to Duttweiler's
shop before you make a decision. I think he operation, specifically
his dyno room will give you an idea of what he can do for you.

PM me if you have any questions.

Duttweiler does not put much up about what he does but he is a no nonsense guy and he builds very good powerplants.

I agree with John, take the trip down to his shop and you will be very impressed with all of the projects you will find at his shop.

You indicated you want the best and only want to do it once, he is the man to go see. There are others as mentioned above that can do it too. Based on your location though it is well worth it to have your engine builder close by relatively speaking.

John Gallina lives in Vegas, so does Len Freeman you can go talk to them first before you drive down to Saticoy.

Hope this helps

[VegasSE]

Originally Posted by Reggie West

Duttweiler does not put much up about what he does but he is a no nonsense guy and he builds very good powerplants.

I agree with John, take the trip down to his shop and you will be very impressed with all of the projects you will find at his shop.

You indicated you want the best and only want to do it once, he is the man to go see. There are others as mentioned above that can do it too. Based on your location though it is well worth it to have your engine builder close by relatively speaking.

John Gallina lives in Vegas, so does Len Freeman you can go talk to them first before you drive down to Saticoy.

Hope this helps

I have heard of Gallina/Freeman, but again, no decent collection of data or informational website. Some of these people really need to get some quality websites up so prospective customers know what they are getting into. Honestly, without advice from the community, you would never know where to FIND some of these guys.

[whitehot84]

Originally Posted by VegasSE

I have heard of Gallina/Freeman, but again, no decent collection of data or informational website. Some of these people really need to get some quality websites up so prospective customers know what they are getting into. Honestly, without advice from the community, you would never know where to FIND some of these guys.

Most of these guys are busy building engines and don't have a lot of time to spend on the internet. We have been doing business with
Dan for a while now and he is a straight shooter. He won't put something in your car he does not believe in. First rate in all phases of engine building.

Good luck with your build.

[TURBOKID]

I'll give some info Call Dan he can do it better than anyone else. And when you are done with it playing around call me I will buy it from you. I wish I still had mine he did for me. He has done 4 motors for me. Oh the Dyno don't tell the tale you have to prove it on the track

[III'S 87 GN]

Originally Posted by VegasSE

I have heard of Gallina/Freeman, but again, no decent collection of data or informational website. Some of these people really need to get some quality websites up so prospective customers know what they are getting into. Honestly, without advice from the community, you would never know where to FIND some of these guys.

Pretty websites don't build quality motors and cars

Reputations DO !!!!!

Call DAN at DLS

[VegasSE]

Originally Posted by III'S 87 GN

Pretty websites don't build quality motors and cars

Reputations DO !!!!!

Call DAN at DLS

Thank you for the feedback gentlemen.

As for the need for decent websites, I'm not ripping on anyone, I'm giving feedback from a potential customer perspective. A nicely organized website with info, pictures, customer cars, testimonials, description of services, etc......would help me as a CUSTOMER immensely. Without you guys, I simply wouldn't know where to turn. I just wish it was a little EASIER to spend money with someone, that's all. Thank God for the knowledgeable members of this forum or I would be lost.

[Dusty Bradford]

I'd be more worried about doing business with a company who has a great website but has no records or reputation at the track. Duttweiler, Dan and RPE have reps at the track and in the record books. You can't go wrong with any of them, location would be my deciding factor.

[VegasSE]

Originally Posted by Dusty Bradford

I'd be more worried about doing business with a company who has a great website but has no records or reputation at the track. Duttweiler, Dan and RPE have reps at the track and in the record books. You can't go wrong with any of them, location would be my deciding factor.

I certainly won't argue with that.

[geno]

Originally Posted by III'S 87 GN

Pretty websites don't build quality motors and cars

Reputations DO !!!!!

Call DAN at DLS

Are you saying his web sites not pretty LOL Home

[Sam Colalillo]

Originally Posted by VegasSE

It's looking like I need to have a conversation with Dan.

And have him build your engine A stock block engine he built several years ago was going the speed that everyone is now catching up to.

You want the Best of the Best. I'll say you found him. I learn something new every time I stop in his shop.

Just my opinion.

[TurboIndian]

Originally Posted by Dusty Bradford

I'd be more worried about doing business with a company who has a great website but has no records or reputation at the track. Duttweiler, Dan and RPE have reps at the track and in the record books. You can't go wrong with any of them, location would be my deciding factor.

exactly, websites sell to kids, reputations sell themselves by word of mouth.

[SGRIM]

Originally Posted by III'S 87 GN

Pretty websites don't build quality motors and cars

Reputations DO !!!!!

Call DAN at DLS

+1

[VegasSE]

Originally Posted by TurboIndian

exactly, websites sell to kids, reputations sell themselves by word of mouth.

Actually we've built multi-million dollar a year grossing business SOLELY off internet traffic, which is pretty much what I do, and what I've done to be able to do this project in the first place. That's beside the point, but I'd assume that shops would like to know this from a CUSTOMER perspective. Give me 5 choices, all with equal reputation, and I'll most likely choose the one who best presents his product. There are a LOT of wealthy guys out there who can't even find the information they are looking for and it makes it difficult for us to spend money. My point was, there could be a guy in Boise Idaho who's the best engine builder on earth and unless I was DEEP into the community in which he built engines for, I'd never know who the heck he was, but if he had a nice professional website with customer testimonials, pictures, display of services, etc.....he could be off a dirt road in the middle of nowhere and I could still find him. If it wasn't for THIS website, I wouldn't even know where to start either.

Once again I will say, thank GOD for the members of this site because I wouldn't really know where to start without you guys.

[TurboIndian]

Originally Posted by VegasSE

Actually we've built multi-million dollar a year grossing business SOLELY off internet traffic, which is pretty much what I do, and what I've done to be able to do this project in the first place. That's beside the point, but I'd assume that shops would like to know this from a CUSTOMER perspective. Give me 5 choices, all with equal reputation, and I'll most likely choose the one who best presents his product. There are a LOT of wealthy guys out there who can't even find the information they are looking for and it makes it difficult for us to spend money. My point was, there could be a guy in Boise Idaho who's the best engine builder on earth and unless I was DEEP into the community in which he built engines for, I'd never know who the heck he was, but if he had a nice professional website with customer testimonials, pictures, display of services, etc.....he could be off a dirt road in the middle of nowhere and I could still find him. If it wasn't for THIS website, I wouldn't even know where to start either.

Once again I will say, thank GOD for the members of this site because I wouldn't really know where to start without you guys.

I agree with you on this to some point. BUT, these top notch shops that have been mentioned are so covered up in work they probably don't even need more business, than what the word of mouth gives them. (I may have worded that wrong , but you understand my point)

[S2V6RACER]

DLS, RPE, Anderson Performance have proven themselves in heads up competition. I would not make a decision based on a 1000hp S2 engine thrown in a potato chip throwing down a number here and there. I also agree with Kiblers comment about Dynos and proving it on the track.

[VegasSE]

So the general consensus is go DLS, Duttweiler, or RPE if you want the best, and stick with one of those three? Would I be accurate to say this?

[Nasty Wendy]

Originally Posted by VegasSE

So the general consensus is go DLS, Duttweiler, or RPE if you want the best, and stick with one of those three? Would I be accurate to say this?

How can you ignore 7.25 @ 188 mph with a single turbo?

[FatGnat]

on the aforementioned builders. Duttweiler was one of the pioneers and since he's close to you geographically, check him out. Dan (DLS) is deeply involved in the Buick community and has built a winning reputation for powerful motors.

I understand and share your same thoughts on websites and the ability to sell to the public and grab their attention. Unfortunately, that doesn't translate 1 for 1 in the Buick community. Like you mentioned, it's such a niche market, that word of mouth and bulletin boards are all that's needed to promote a product and or service.

I was wondering when you'd come to this section of the board considering the HP the rest of your stable is churning out. Considering there doesn't seem to be a price ceiling on any of your rides, you may want to look into having a T/A all aluminum stage motor built.

Welcome to the board and whatever route you decide to take, please keep the rest of us updated with progress pictures as I'm sure this will be one incredible ride.

[S2V6RACER]

Originally Posted by Nasty Wendy

How can you ignore 7.25 @ 188 mph with a single turbo?

Oh, you can't. I remember that year when he MOWED through the competition in S-16 in BG 05. He was able to win races with that combo and that is impressive to say the least!!!

[TURBOKID]

Originally Posted by VegasSE

So the general consensus is go DLS, Duttweiler, or RPE if you want the best, and stick with one of those three? Would I be accurate to say this?

Ok so you have read what we wrote Yes Pick one!

Or just find a web site you like and tell them you have 20k to spend and I bet they can give you a 1500hp V6 One of the kind never before never again built motor. Oh ya before I for get that was on a DYNO (good luck at the track with it).Web sites are for people that have more time to punch keys then being in the shop building BAD ASS MOTORS

[VegasSE]

Originally Posted by FatGnat

on the aforementioned builders. Duttweiler was one of the pioneers and since he's close to you geographically, check him out. Dan (DLS) is deeply involved in the Buick community and has built a winning reputation for powerful motors.

I understand and share your same thoughts on websites and the ability to sell to the public and grab their attention. Unfortunately, that doesn't translate 1 for 1 in the Buick community. Like you mentioned, it's such a niche market, that word of mouth and bulletin boards are all that's needed to promote a product and or service.

I was wondering when you'd come to this section of the board considering the HP the rest of your stable is churning out. Considering there doesn't seem to be a price ceiling on any of your rides, you may want to look into having a T/A all aluminum stage motor built.

Welcome to the board and whatever route you decide to take, please keep the rest of us updated with progress pictures as I'm sure this will be one incredible ride.

I most definitely am going with the TA aluminum Stage 2. No question about that. Thanks for the welcome, and I simply want to make sure I have the very best build this car. I chose Heffner Performance for the Lamborghini. I chose Sound Performance for my Supra, and I want to make sure I choose someone just as highly regarded and proven for my Grand Nationals.

[VegasSE]

Originally Posted by TURBOKID

Ok so you have read what we wrote Yes Pick one!

Or just find a web site you like and tell them you have 20k to spend and I bet they can give you a 1500hp V6 One of the kind never before never again built motor. Oh ya before I for get that was on a DYNO (good luck at the track with it).Web sites are for people that have more time to punch keys then being in the shop building BAD ASS MOTORS

Don't know about you but when I'm going to do a full car build at $50,000 I don't just "pick one" without some pretty extensive research. Also, the dyno video and graph are VITAL to why I'm building all these cars. They are vehicles, no pun intended, for a major multimedia project I am directly involved in. It's not a simple choice of "just pick one". They need to display well, perform well, and have the numbers to back up everything. If I was building a race car to take to the track each weekend, I'd care only about the ET. That's not the case at all in this circumstance. We have MUCH bigger plans for all of these cars.