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October 15th, 2007, 12:49 AM
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a few rust holes (quarter panel)
Got a 2 rust spots/hole. nothing monstrous by all means. Should I bother cutting off patches and paying someone to put them in or just lay fiberglass and let it slide?
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87 WE4-factory radio delete, pwr windows, rear defrost, pwr antenna, that's it! Runs on used parts  and stuff I found in my uncles back yard. Now that it runs I'm tearing it apart ...and a 93 T/A- Well optioned but definitely not a whole lot of Pontiac Excitement there. soon to be joining in- 88 shelby z 5 spd 2.2 intercooled w/ttops 
    
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October 16th, 2007, 08:19 AM
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I guess it depends on how long your gonna keep the car. Bondo/fiberglass will only bubble and rust through again in a couple years, if that. If you cut out the rust, and lay in a metal patch it will last a LONG time if done correctly. If it were me, metal patch is the way to go...........Hope this helps.
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87 GN TA49, 50lb MSD's, THDP, K.B. FM, 62mm TB, Dual nozzle SMC Alky, Poston headers, LS1 MAF w/T+, etc. Restored!  87 Regal Turbo Drk Garnet Red, some mods ex "Trooper Car". Only 4 options! 
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October 16th, 2007, 08:46 AM
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If I laid fiberglass I would cut the rust out first. I do have a friend coming over that went to school for body work and does decent work, and welds for a living. I also found even more rust up on my driver's a pillar where they all do. I have a bad feeling it is soft. I will know when I get the dash out
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87 WE4-factory radio delete, pwr windows, rear defrost, pwr antenna, that's it! Runs on used parts and stuff I found in my uncles back yard. Now that it runs I'm tearing it apart...and a 93 T/A- Well optioned but definitely not a whole lot of Pontiac Excitement there. soon to be joining in- 88 shelby z 5 spd 2.2 intercooled w/ttops
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October 16th, 2007, 07:56 PM
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Guys - same issue here, both rear quarters have holes, one side is pretty bad. I have been looking for rust free quarters but pretty tough to find. I like the idea of cutting out all the rust and weld in fiberglass and paint it. Just have to find a good body shop.
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October 17th, 2007, 07:53 AM
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Finding that much rust is only the beginning of a sad ending to a great car....
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October 17th, 2007, 10:04 AM
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I just got this car and I was aware of the rust but it runs great and I got heck of a deal on it. I wanted a clean, rust free GN but all of those are out of my budget. It sucks to live in the rust belt where salt is used so much on the roads. Hopefully I can get most of the rust out and keep the GN off the streets in the winter.
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October 17th, 2007, 06:30 PM
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You guys should look at the inner fender well above the frame, They rust from the inside out there. If there is rust there then you will need to remove the inner fender well to fix. Sorry, but I've been there.
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1984 GN Frame off resto. Full wieght with spare tire and jack. All opitions are in working order. 87 Harness and ECM, "484" block 4.1 J&E Pistons, Full floating stock rods, stock crank, Girdle, CHAMPION GNr heads fully ported, T&D shaft mounted, Comp 218-212 roller, 70mm tb, sheet metal upper, 4 inch inlet pipe, Turbonectics 72mm BB q-trim 4 bolt turbo, P.S. intercooler, atr headers, 3.5 dp, custom dual 2.5 stainless exhaust with utralflows BRF 200r4 built with alto reds, Billet servo, Transgo shift kit, Forward drum, CK's 3600 9 inch nlu, custom pan with rear sump. GTA fronts with LS1 front brakes and Baer rears. Chrome moly custom upper and lowers with 3.42 gears and moser axles.
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October 18th, 2007, 12:06 AM
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Well in my case I am seriously considering a "rebody" I found a 83 that's already pretty much gutted and stripped. Dang near bare shell on a frame aside of the odds and ends on the firewall. It does need a driver's floor pan but the rest of it seems solid, no dents either. The question is, where are all the vins??? How much work would it be swapping over all my crap in the shell? I have everything out of mine except wiring, center console, dash and etc., and column. Still got full drivetrain in it, running and driveable, but that shouldn't be too much of a problem to work around. Starting to seem like a good idea so far.
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87 WE4-factory radio delete, pwr windows, rear defrost, pwr antenna, that's it! Runs on used parts and stuff I found in my uncles back yard. Now that it runs I'm tearing it apart...and a 93 T/A- Well optioned but definitely not a whole lot of Pontiac Excitement there. soon to be joining in- 88 shelby z 5 spd 2.2 intercooled w/ttops
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October 18th, 2007, 09:15 PM
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usetaboost - You got any pics of the rusted areas of your car? I would like to compare to my car. I also bought a GN recently and it has rust along the bottom of both doors and rear quarters. I'm going with the fiber glass for now, but will keep looking for rust-free parts in case the rust comes back...this hopefully buys me a couple of years.
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October 18th, 2007, 09:32 PM
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Once these cars start rusting. look out. Dont cover it up with fiberglass.It will come back trust me I have been there.I mean I am still there.
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October 19th, 2007, 12:24 PM
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well the guy that had the good shell went and sold it to one of his race car buddies-I love it when people do that to me
 So what to do now . I am gonna look around a little bit for a decent shell or parts car, but if I don't find one soon I'm not gonna do a damn thing with it. I will let it sit until I find a REAL body man to help me.
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87 WE4-factory radio delete, pwr windows, rear defrost, pwr antenna, that's it! Runs on used parts and stuff I found in my uncles back yard. Now that it runs I'm tearing it apart...and a 93 T/A- Well optioned but definitely not a whole lot of Pontiac Excitement there. soon to be joining in- 88 shelby z 5 spd 2.2 intercooled w/ttops
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October 19th, 2007, 12:26 PM
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There is no way your car is in worse shape than mine, you drive yours
 . I'm too embarassed to even let people see mine let alone drive it. I'm starting to wish I never bought it. But I'm stuck with it cause I'm not gonna put myself in the hole for a 15k car. I know my car won't cost that much to make right. Maybe a lot to finish it right, but I'm not scared to do the work, MY labor is free and my friends labor is cheap. Just gotta feed them!
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87 WE4-factory radio delete, pwr windows, rear defrost, pwr antenna, that's it! Runs on used parts and stuff I found in my uncles back yard. Now that it runs I'm tearing it apart...and a 93 T/A- Well optioned but definitely not a whole lot of Pontiac Excitement there. soon to be joining in- 88 shelby z 5 spd 2.2 intercooled w/ttops
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October 19th, 2007, 12:34 PM
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And I would like to see a "rust free" car. I mean no rust anywhere. A non restored car with not a spec of rust. That's like having a car that no one has farted in
.....that would be special
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87 WE4-factory radio delete, pwr windows, rear defrost, pwr antenna, that's it! Runs on used parts and stuff I found in my uncles back yard. Now that it runs I'm tearing it apart...and a 93 T/A- Well optioned but definitely not a whole lot of Pontiac Excitement there. soon to be joining in- 88 shelby z 5 spd 2.2 intercooled w/ttops
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October 19th, 2007, 05:47 PM
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October 20th, 2007, 08:47 PM
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Rust Repair
Hey Usetaboost.. I Guess It Depends How Bad Your Rust Is. I Usually Cut Out The Entire Rust Area Completly And Metal Patch. If Bot Hqtrs Are Rotted,rockers And Floor Includes,i Would Consider A Re-body.. I Purchases A Rust-free,fla 81 Regal With 46,miles At An Auction. I Hated To Take Apart But The Parts Were Worth More Than The Car. I'm Building An 87 Gn,used Rt Fender And Door,think I'll Hold On The The Complete Shell(origional Paint,not Even A Door Dent) May Be Worth Something Some Day... Good Luck With Your Car..
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October 22nd, 2007, 12:10 PM
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here's the pics. They were taken at night but the spots I shot were the HOLES. There is light speckled surface rust in a few spots but the rest of the underneath is perfect aside from what has been described.
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87 WE4-factory radio delete, pwr windows, rear defrost, pwr antenna, that's it! Runs on used parts and stuff I found in my uncles back yard. Now that it runs I'm tearing it apart...and a 93 T/A- Well optioned but definitely not a whole lot of Pontiac Excitement there. soon to be joining in- 88 shelby z 5 spd 2.2 intercooled w/ttops
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October 22nd, 2007, 12:21 PM
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more...
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87 WE4-factory radio delete, pwr windows, rear defrost, pwr antenna, that's it! Runs on used parts and stuff I found in my uncles back yard. Now that it runs I'm tearing it apart...and a 93 T/A- Well optioned but definitely not a whole lot of Pontiac Excitement there. soon to be joining in- 88 shelby z 5 spd 2.2 intercooled w/ttops
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October 22nd, 2007, 12:25 PM
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Got pics of the firechicken in member's rides...
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87 WE4-factory radio delete, pwr windows, rear defrost, pwr antenna, that's it! Runs on used parts and stuff I found in my uncles back yard. Now that it runs I'm tearing it apart...and a 93 T/A- Well optioned but definitely not a whole lot of Pontiac Excitement there. soon to be joining in- 88 shelby z 5 spd 2.2 intercooled w/ttops
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October 22nd, 2007, 06:17 PM
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Rust.
Usetaboost, All The Rust On The Images Looks Repairable By Metal Patching,you "may" Be Able To Purchase Patch Panels For The Qtrs. My Concern Is The Roof Skin, They Rot Out Above Both Doors At The Top,the Just Above The Thin,black Mld. The Seam Where The Quarters Meet The Roof, This Area Is "full" Of Lead, I Did Notice A Crack At That Area On One Of Your Photos.the Lead Would Need To Be Melted Out And See What Is Underneath,it Is Possible To Have Rust Under The Lead,or The Crack May Be From Body Deflection. Metal Patching A Roof In This Area Will Be Tricky As The Heat May Warp The Panel. Your Car Has Alot Of Potential, Good Luck With It,don't Give Up..
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