Just what is the penalty for stealing 50 billion?

[turbot2496]

ABC News: House Arrest for Madoff in $7 Million Apartment



Man... now thats some hard justice....

[Red Regal T]

WOW! Madoff, pronounced made-off, has absconded with $50 billion. I'm just, SHOCKED! I tell you, SHOCKED !!! You could say he made off with the $50 billion, if you know what I mean. LOL! Do you think this guy had any integrity? I'm sure he made acted as though he did strutting around with the rich and famous as I'm sure he did all his life, and looking down at the goys. I'm glad I didn't post about this. I can imagine what the purveyors of denseness who reside here would have said. For those who have trepidation over the Jewish question, I almost can't even believe how glaringly obvious and real these Jewish bankster criminals are. Almost every single one of them look like an elderly Rahm Emanuel. But, we can look at the bright side ... he swindled mostly from his own, and among them, a lot of people who would be willing to put down $8000 to settle a grudge, if you know what I mean. If something happens to him and his progeny, the list of suspects will be very long.

[Grumpy]

if it were my $$$ he would have a bad case of lead poisoning give me a break

[SGRIM]

Well the Fed Reserve is doing that for you!!!

They are stealing from every American, 8.5 Trillion

[Gothmog]

Originally Posted by SGRIM

Well the Fed Reserve is doing that for you!!!

They are stealing from every American, 8.5 Trillion

and how

[SGRIM]

We had a lady steal $350K+ from us, more I think, but anyway we could prove that much... She got probation and had to pay $150 bucks a month for like 7yrs or something to us...

I would trade $350k TAX FREE CASH, for $150 bucks a month for a few years anytime...

People are simply not held accountable for what they do anymore.

As I said above the FED is stealing all of our money as we speak just as hard as they can and no one wants to admit it

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by SGRIM

Well the Fed Reserve is doing that for you!!!

They are stealing from every American, 8.5 Trillion

well I don't have enuff bullets to get all of them!! BUT "1" shouldn't be a problem

[whitehot1]

Originally Posted by turbot2496

ABC News: House Arrest for Madoff in $7 Million Apartment



Man... now thats some hard justice....

I heard on the news he will be facing 20 years in prison and a 5 million dollar fine.

Sounds pretty harsh to me.

[Red Regal T]

Originally Posted by Gothmog

and how

Government bailout hits $8.5 trillion

[Gothmog]

Originally Posted by Red Regal T

Government bailout hits $8.5 trillion

I was saying

and HOW!

not

And how?

[Red Regal T]

Think about it; the auto industry was asking for about THIRTY Billion in bailout money, which they were denied. Yet a single one of our Jewish friends stole almost twice the money that could have been used to bail out the entire american auto industry!!! There's something very, very wrong with this.

[Mac in SD]

Originally Posted by Red Regal T

Think about it; the auto industry was asking for about THIRTY Billion in bailout money, which they were denied. Yet a single one of our Jewish friends stole almost twice the money that could have been used to bail out the entire american auto industry!!! There's something very, very wrong with this.

You are NOTHING but an anti-semite. Rationalize all you want about zionists, israel, whatever you want. You're just a jew-hater. Why not post some gool old hook-nose Nazi propaganda pix?

Know ye by the company you keep, indeed. Hitler, Himmler, islamists.

You are despicable.

[Weester]

Originally Posted by Mac in SD

You are NOTHING but an anti-semite. Rationalize all you want about zionists, israel, whatever you want. You're just a jew-hater. Why not post some gool old hook-nose Nazi propaganda pix?

Know ye by the company you keep, indeed. Hitler, Himmler, islamists.

You are despicable.

Something we finally agree on.........................

[SGRIM]

Does anyone else not care about all the stolen money Americans are losing?

I thought for sure this would bring some interesting conversation up...

[Black Power]

Originally Posted by SGRIM

Does anyone else not care about all the stolen money Americans are losing?

I thought for sure this would bring some interesting conversation up...

I am not too thrilled about it Shane. I am also not surprised.

People everywhere are crooks - the government, Wall Street, hell we even have some on the board. It's just sad that people cannot be straight up with one another and do the right thing. There is not a lot of integrity around.

[Red Regal T]

Originally Posted by Mac in SD

You are NOTHING but an anti-semite. Rationalize all you want about zionists, israel, whatever you want. You're just a jew-hater. Why not post some gool old hook-nose Nazi propaganda pix?

Know ye by the company you keep, indeed. Hitler, Himmler, islamists.

You are despicable.

WOW! It's unfortunate, FOR YOU, I'm going to have to put you in short pants again because you can't control yourself little goy. You'll have to go hide for a month. Why don't you GROW-UP? Do you think for one minute, your Jew-inspired/invented accusation is just going to stop me cold from posting the truth? You've finally said it. I'm just shocked! Why else would you turn a blind eye to the concentrated effort of a portion of this 2% of the American population, who are bringing down America, and instead spend your time condemning those who would dare expose this conspiracy? And I thought only liberals were mentally ill. And like the rest of the NEOCON supporters, you're nothing but an idiot who cares not for his country and can't see the forest for the trees.

Are you a Jew? Somehow, I don't think so, and yet you're so incensed that I would expose what some of them are doing to this country. How sick is that? What are Jews to you? What is that tiny apartheid country to you? I was under the impression you were an American, but instead, you're an Israel firster like your pal, weeser. You should ask yourself why you go off into hysterics because I'm discussing this take-down of America by these enemies among us? Because you have suffered a life of pro-Jewish propaganda in the MSM. Everything you see, everything you hear is geared toward pro-Jewish, pro-Israeli interests, because they totally control all information Americans see and hear. The schools are deliberately dumbed down as part of their plan, and you are obviously the result of that dumbing down. Rush windbag & Co. told you we must defend Israel, because they are bought and paid for by these same elements, and you're all for sending hundreds of thousands of US Soldiers into the ME to fight and die for Israel, and you don't care if they ever come home. For sure, the Jews don't.

The financial elites, consisting of, you know who, have already absconded with $8.5 TRILLION of Americans money for which they have no responsibility to account for. They've been stealing money from America right along. Add that to this incursion into the ME, and the continued spending of billions there, for the defense of Israel, and the US is bankrupt. This is what these people you support are doing, and yet, you're incensed because I question it or expose it to others. We need to pull out of the ME immediately, and bring our guys home, ignore these foreign parasites, and let them fend for themselves. The reason they want the US Military over there is, they don't like having to fight for themselves, you see, since American blood, in their view, is so much cheaper than theirs - and their Holy Book, the Talmud, tells them so. Unlike what these Israel firsters in our government, the neocons are trying to pull over on the American people, Israeli and US interests are not one in the same. Israel is a FOREIGN COUNTRY, a fact that seems to evade your tiny mind.

What's so sick is the disproportionate numbers to their population 2%. They hold so many, many, influential positions, and wield so much power in the US Government, and yet, because of political correctness, to ask what my government is doing is anti-semitism? Hmmm.. Anybody with a brain would wonder why such questions are politically incorrect or outright forbidden. It drives some people to hysteria. We know why, however. The American people dare not question the Jews.

The new illegal alien elect Obama is appointing another cadre of these same people into his cabinet, as a part of his policy of "CHANGE", no doubt. Let's take Rahm Emmanuel for example, Obama's new chief of staff. Rahm Emmanuel is a citizen of Israel and during the time of the Gulf War, he wanted to serve his country. So he joined, not the US Armed Forces, but instead he chose to join the Israel Defense Force. Obviously, his allegiance is to Israel, not America. Why on earth is this guy Obama's chief of staff, an extremely powerful position of influence in the US Government? I'll tell you why. Because Israel controls the US Government and it's military. The American government is no longer ours.

Is it somehow anti-Semitic to ask why there are so many dual American/Israel citizens in our government? Isn't that curious? I think it's more offensive to these parasites that I expose this treason for all to see. Where are the Americans, the people who's allegiance is not in question? Israel firsters have penetrated and hold positions of influence in the American government. That there are people in high places in our government, both elected and appointed, that have dual loyalties to both the US and Israel, is absolutely outrageous. Actually, if these subversives ever had allegiance to America which I seriously doubt, they have given up any pretense of it a long time ago as we witness our government's insistence America keep a huge force in the ME. For many of these rats in our government, it's always been Israel first, last, and always. WAKE UP!

Especially for you, you NEOCON FOOL ....

A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the galleys, heard in the very hall of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor—he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and wears their face and their garment, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation—he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city—he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared.......Cicero, 42 B.C.E.

[Red Regal T]

Originally Posted by Black Power

I am not too thrilled about it Shane. I am also not surprised.

People everywhere are crooks - the government, Wall Street, hell we even have some on the board. It's just sad that people cannot be straight up with one another and do the right thing. There is not a lot of integrity around.

Not people everywhere are crooks. Only those assuming the nature of the people I'm talking about. It is not the nature of regular Americans and I think you'd agree with that. Keep tiptoeing around who these thieves and manipulators are, and it is going to get considerably worse. Fixing it is only possible if these people are eliminated from our government, and the FED is drummed out of existence.

[Black Power]

I take it you mean that the Jews are the crooks?

[Red Regal T]

Originally Posted by Black Power

I take it you mean that the Jews are the crooks?

I suggest you make your assumptions. Can you? Or are you enslaved by poltical correctness and MSM propaganda?

[Black Power]

Originally Posted by Red Regal T

I suggest you make your assumptions. Can you? Or are you enslaved by poltical correctness and MSM propaganda?

You are making some nice assumptions yourself.

I don't watch much news. What I do watch, I realize it's not all true...I never watch msnbc because I don't like being told that the liberal way is the only way.

Most of my info comes from the series of tubes called the internet. I am not much of a believer in conspiracies, I have no political correctness, and I don't think all Jews are evil.

There you go.

[Red Regal T]

I can only make assumptions by the few sentences you post over months. I'll take you at your word, of course, your not PC, and you don't listen to the MSM. There's a lot on the internet. I don't know what you take in from the internet. But there are places on the internet where you can expand your intake of information. You say you don't believe in conspiracies, but remember, anything outside of MSM is labelled conspiracy. Now if you mean, you use the internet to play SPACE INVADERS, or you trust too much in MSM information sites on the internet, bear in mind, that the people we're talking about, have infinite money, and they post things that lead people to sites that continue to deceive. But, please listen here ... http://www.infowars.com/stream.pls It's a 24/7 live stream. Pick your own times. Give it a chance, more than 5 minutes, and then get back to me and if you find it helpful, I'll give you more interesting links.

[Red Regal T]

Originally Posted by SGRIM

Does anyone else not care about all the stolen money Americans are losing?

I thought for sure this would bring some interesting conversation up...

OK, I'll bite. Who stole the money?

[Mac in SD]

Originally Posted by SGRIM

Does anyone else not care about all the stolen money Americans are losing?

I thought for sure this would bring some interesting conversation up...

Of course it's outrageous. The problem lies with incompetents in both the Administration and the Congress, shoveling billions to unscrupulous bankers and investment houses. I'm aghast that our entire government has been led down this path by a Treasury Secretary who came out of Goldman Sachs and pulled the wool over the entire government's eyes. It's outrageous and there should be retribution down the road.

What happened with this thread, IMO, is that you-know-who turned it into another jew-hating diatribe. Like he's been doing with every other thread recently.

You let that happen. And please don't come back with "everybody's entitled to his opinion." The fact is, you either recognize that it's simply and purely more historic antisemitic libel, and stop it...or, admit it, you agree with it. It's hate. And you're facilitating it.

[Red Regal T]

Originally Posted by Mac in SD

Of course it's outrageous. The problem lies with incompetents in both the Administration and the Congress, shoveling billions to unscrupulous bankers and investment houses. I'm aghast that our entire government has been led down this path by a Treasury Secretary who came out of Goldman Sachs and pulled the wool over the entire government's eyes. It's outrageous and there should be retribution down the road.

What happened with this thread, IMO, is that you-know-who turned it into another jew-hating diatribe. Like he's been doing with every other thread recently.

You let that happen. And please don't come back with "everybody's entitled to his opinion." The fact is, you either recognize that it's simply and purely more historic antisemitic libel, and stop it...or, admit it, you agree with it. It's hate. And you're facilitating it.

You're aghast, huh? That's why you believe it is incompetence that has caused this catastrophe. You refuse to consider that our government has been taken down deliberately by the people that I have named. It has nothing to do with hate, unless you hate America. The proof is in the pudding but you are so indoctrinated with political correctness, these very people have introduced into our society, you can't come to grips with what is really going on. You are incredibly naive. Criticizing elements of the Jewish community is not anti-Semitism. And why is anti-Semitism, libel, anyway? Why do you worship Jews? They are only men. LOL! Are you advocating censorship, socalled American?

[Red Regal T]

More you won't hear on the MSM. This money, this $50 Billion, is already in Israel, where the $8.5 TRILLION is, and those affected by Madoff's alleged swindle, have insurance against fraud, and will be reimbursed, that is if the US Government doesn't bale them out, too. Madoff, who is already out on bail, has offices in Israel, and many of the socalled Jewish Charities do also. The money is probably available to them in Israel, but they will also be reimbursed for their "losses" here in the US. Either this scoundrel will end up in Israel, where they have no extradition to America, (how convenient) or maybe the buffoon in chief will pardon him before he leaves office. WOW! These people shouldn't be criticized, they should be worshipped, and some here, do.

LOL! ROFLMAO! bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[turbot2496]

More you won't hear on the MSM. This money, this $50 Billion, is already in Israel, where the $8.5 TRILLION is, and those affected by Madoff's alleged swindle, have insurance against fraud, and will be reimbursed, that is if the US Government doesn't bale them out, too. Madoff, who is already out on bail, has offices in Israel, and many of the socalled Jewish Charities do also. The money is probably available to them in Israel, but they will also be reimbursed for their "losses" here in the US. Either this scoundrel will end up in Israel, where they have no extradition to America, (how convenient) or maybe the buffoon in chief will pardon him before he leaves office. WOW! These people shouldn't be criticized, they should be worshipped, and some here, do.

LOL! ROFLMAO! bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
__________________

You just make this stuff up as you go don't you ?... LOL

[Red Regal T]

Originally Posted by turbot2496

You just make this stuff up as you go don't you ?... LOL

I see .. you come to the rescue of your friends again, as usual, right on schedule. I'm speculating of course, but if you don't think these people do things like this as a matter of course, you know nothing about them.

[Red Regal T]

Madoff Makes Us Love Gold Even More

<snip>

The “Old Money” Is Now Gone

Now with Madoff’s demise, there is an entire swath of Jewish “old money” gone down the tubes. There are personal wipeouts that will devastate entire extended families. The legacy economy of many trust fund families is wrecked. A lot of country club bills, condo dues and school tuition statements are about to go unpaid.

This will impact communities from Boston to Palm Beach and even overseas as far away as Buenos Aires and Johannesburg. That is, for some overseas Jewish families, Madoff held the “safe” money, the strategic reserve for when it was time to pack the bags and move away. (An old African expression comes to mind: “When the Jews leave, it’s time to leave. When the Portuguese leave, it’s too late to leave.”)

Some charities are hitting the rocks too, totally wiped out by Madoff. There are several hedge funds going down like the Titanic, with one fund losing nearly $1.8 billion. Just in Geneva, Switzerland, a number of banks reportedly may be out of $4 billion invested with Madoff. French bank BNP Paribas is said to be on the hook. Japan’s Nomura Holdings, which markets Madoff’s funds, also has been swept up in the financial wipeout. HSBC is taking a serious hit. Kingate Management of Bermuda has reportedly invested part of its $2.8 billion fund with Madoff.

How Bad Is It Out There?

So it makes me wonder. How bad is it out there? How many other Ponzi schemes are there besides Madoff’s? How many more financial psychopaths are ginning up fake account statements? How many little old ladies are there out there who think they have money in an account, but it’s all just some big scam? How many more bad banks? How many bad brokerage houses? How many more bad companies with bad stock? How many more bad government entities with bad finances and worse bonds? How many bad pension funds?

It drives home the point of wondering whom you can trust. And how bad is it with even the U.S. government? Do you really trust government statistics, like the one for the rate of inflation or unemployment? And how about the numbers in the national budget accounts? We’re spending how much? Does money even have any meaning to the people who have the power to appropriate it? Our whole national accounting process has turned into an intergenerational Ponzi scheme.

Really, our $10 trillion national debt is not enough? We are looking at trillion-dollar deficits in just the next year or two. How long can it last? And whom can you believe in any position of authority? So Bernard Madoff had a “system” for investing? And Ben Bernanke has a “system” for managing the monetary policy of the country, right? Hank Paulson has a “system” for managing the Treasury accounts? And Congress and the president — G.W. Bush, and after him B.H. Obama — have a “system” for spending the nation’s limited wealth on important things, yes?

Madoff Makes Us Love Gold Even More

Where does such incomprehensible greed and colossal larceny come from? Can any of these Wall Streeters be trusted?