Bias media attacks Joe the plummer

[GKMOZ]

Saw this on Lou Dobbs tonight, He mentioned how there are twenty or soo media trucks in front of Joe the plummers house in Holland Ohio and Not one !! Not one in front of Ayers house !! How come ????? Are they fair and balanced ?? Moz

[Gothmog]

Joe the Plumber is a fraud, but

Ayers didnt inject himself into this campaign

Joe the liar did, and McCain brought him up 21 times in the debate

[IEATV8S]

Originally Posted by Gothmog

Joe the Plumber is a fraud, but

Ayers didnt inject himself into this campaign

Joe the liar did, and McCain brought him up 21 times in the debate

From what I see out here, that's a bunch of SPIN from the left!

Thay can't stand that the CHIMP admitted "My plan will SPREAD THE WEALTH AROUND"!

PURE SOCIALISM!!!! You idiots on the left have been shown for what you are!

[GKMOZ]

Originally Posted by Gothmog

Joe the Plumber is a fraud, but

Ayers didnt inject himself into this campaign

Joe the liar did, and McCain brought him up 21 times in the debate

Joe the plummer is a fraud and Obama is on the up and up ?? The plummer is a working stiff, And Ayers ( Socialist ) is leftwing terrorist.who bombs people for his personal views ! Joe ask the "messiah ' A simple question and the media goes for his juggular and calls him a plant ?? Lefties are a blight on this country ! Remember the truth is always the truth and a lie can change in a micro-second. which side is Obama on ? IMHO Gary

[UNGN]

OMG!!! Joe the Plumber has a TAX Lien!!!!


Hummm.... So Does Barrack's Treasurer


Which one does the media cover?

[whitehot84]

Originally Posted by Gothmog

Joe the Plumber is a fraud, but

Ayers didnt inject himself into this campaign

Joe the liar did, and McCain brought him up 21 times in the debate

Why is it that everyone is concerned with the questioner and not the question???
Ayers did in fact inject himself into this campaign when he had Obama's kick off party at his home.
Joe didn't inject himself. Obama was in his neighborhood asking for votes. The guy asked a simple question and now they are doing a background check on him.

Does this not raise a red flag to you. Put yourself in this mans' place. Should someone who is running for the highest office in this country be campaigning against a single citizen. ??????

[UNGN]

Goth's always concerned about Bush's Gestapo coming after him.

Barrack's minions go after people like Bush cronies could only dream of.

[The Blob]

Originally Posted by Gothmog

Joe the Plumber is a fraud...

"Joe the Plumber" is not meant to be taken literally. Rather, he is a figurative embodyment of the Amereican dream. Who or what Joe actually is is unimportant. The questions and concerns Joe raises... questions and concerns to which Obama has no answer... are the important issue.

Most people instinctively get that.

[The Blob]

Originally Posted by UNGN

Goth's always concerned about Bush's Gestapo coming after him.

Barrack's minions go after people like Bush cronies could only dream of.

Excellent point.

[BLACK6PACK]

Originally Posted by Gothmog

Joe the Plumber is a fraud, but

Ayers didnt inject himself into this campaign

Joe the liar did, and McCain brought him up 21 times in the debate

Again gothy's short sightedness. Ayers an admitted terrorist, gothy's kind of people, launches O's campaign, and a guy that works for his money, unlike gothy, is criticised.

Just wait. Gothy will bring up unwarrented wire taps. He always does. I won't even there. He definately has something to hide.

[Mac in SD]

The guys asks a simple question and the LEFT goes on full attack mode.

Just a hint of what any private citizen can look forward to when Obama and his fellow trotskyites get into power.

I fear for the Republic.

[Gothmog]

The question was disengenuous because he misrepreseted himself. If he is going to rail against Obama's tax cuts for working man/ and tax increases for the wealthy, a big part of his question is WHO HE IS... and since he isnt who he said he was, His question loses credibility

[SFITurbo]

Originally Posted by Gothmog

The question was disengenuous because he misrepreseted himself. If he is going to rail against Obama's tax cuts for working man/ and tax increases for the wealthy, a big part of his question is WHO HE IS... and since he isnt who he said he was, His question loses credibility

Are you gonna apply that same standard to Obama once all the hidden truths come out?

[SouthernCal GN]

Originally Posted by Gothmog

The question was disengenuous because he misrepreseted himself. If he is going to rail against Obama's tax cuts for working man/ and tax increases for the wealthy, a big part of his question is WHO HE IS... and since he isnt who he said he was, His question loses credibility

How did he misrepresent himself? Specifics, now, none of the "what he meant to say" crap.......

The plumber asked a question about taxes. It's not disputed that he has desires to purchase the business he works in- and good planning necessitates factoring in the variables that affect the intended purchase.

Like taxes.

[whitehot84]

Originally Posted by Gothmog

The question was disengenuous because he misrepreseted himself. If he is going to rail against Obama's tax cuts for working man/ and tax increases for the wealthy, a big part of his question is WHO HE IS... and since he isnt who he said he was, His question loses credibility

I get it now. If you plan to ask a question when a politician comes to your neighborhood you must first fill out a questionnaire and verify you are who you say you are but if you want to vote in Ohio you don't even need identification, eh Mikey???

[GKMOZ]

Originally Posted by Gothmog

The question was disengenuous because he misrepreseted himself. If he is going to rail against Obama's tax cuts for working man/ and tax increases for the wealthy, a big part of his question is WHO HE IS... and since he isnt who he said he was, His question loses credibility

The word" Rail " means to question violently: I saw the question to Obama. How in the world did you get " Railed against " Obama ?? Lefty twisting the facts we heard and saw for our selves?? Gary

[bison]

Joe the plumber clarified he wasnt a politician. He also stated he never had interest in ever pursuing a political career. Why jump all over him? Gothmog doesnt realize that "Joe the plumber" is every small business owner and not just the bald headed guy the media (which is controlled by homos for the most part) is attacking. His credibility means dick at this point. Obama chose to smear him because he asked a question that he didnt like. I actually thought it was a figure of speech referring to the backbone of our country, the small business owner before i saw him. Not just the guy who is referred to as Joe the plumber. I cant believe so many people think Obama gives a s hit about the middle class. He is just stroking them to get votes. The first thing he will do when he wins the election is moon the entire country and laugh his ass off that he is in the white house. That is a joke.

[IEATV8S]

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[Gothmog]

Originally Posted by GKMOZ

The word" Rail " means to question violently: I saw the question to Obama. How in the world did you get " Railed against " Obama ?? Lefty twisting the facts we heard and saw for our selves?? Gary

I guess you missed the followup when he said he's going for McCain, he didnt actually rail against Obama's policy, he railed against what he thought Obama's policy might become....in his imagination

[87gta-turbo]

I think Joe the plumber is great, he was able to expose that commie bastard for what he was.
The dem advisors must have been going nuts not being able to provide a telepromptered answers for Obuma.

[GKMOZ]

Originally Posted by Gothmog

I guess you missed the followup when he said he's going for McCain, he didnt actually rail against Obama's policy, he railed against what he thought Obama's policy might become....in his imagination

I did miss that follow up part, You didn't show us that part. You said he railed at Obamas policy. That IS NOT what he did. You GOTHMOG said he railed. Just like your lefty media buddies do all the time, DISTORT or outright lie ! Then try to tell others what they saw. IMHO

[Gothmog]

He said he isnt voting for Obama because he wants to make $250k someday...but thats right now, Obama may lower that to $150k! he also said


this guy is either a republican plant , or the stupidest man on the planet..
basically he is saying:

"I'm not voting for Obama because of a policy that later on in life I might fall victim to - if it were changed"

[87gta-turbo]

Originally Posted by Gothmog

:

"I'm not voting for Obama because of a socialist policy that later on in life I might fall victim to - if it were changed"

Whats wrong with that?

PS
I fixed it for you.

[Gothmog]

Originally Posted by 87gta-turbo

Whats wrong with that?

PS
I fixed it for you.

you dont see how idiotic that sounds? He's not for a mild tax increase for rich people because he wants to be rich someday, and because that policy might change, so he isnt voting for Obama because of a policy that Obama DOESNT HAVE.

[BLACK6PACK]

Originally Posted by Gothmog

you dont see how idiotic that sounds? He's not for a mild tax increase for rich people because he wants to be rich someday, and because that policy might change, so he isnt voting for Obama because of a policy that Obama DOESNT HAVE.

So Obama isn't going to raise the taxes on the rich? Dude you are smokin' too much of the funny stuff.

Your logic goes something like this... "do not try to sail around the earth, Obama says it's flat, you will fall off the edge". Meanwhile, 5 minutes later, Gothy says "i'm going to sail around the earth, Obama says its round so I'll be fine" all is fine in gothy's world. One second the earth is flat, the next it's round in gothy's reality.

[Gothmog]

Originally Posted by BLACK6PACK

So Obama isn't going to raise the taxes on the rich? Dude you are smokin' too much of the funny stuff.

Your logic goes something like this... "do not try to sail around the earth, Obama says it's flat, you will fall off the edge". Meanwhile, 5 minutes later, Gothy says "i'm going to sail around the earth, Obama says its round so I'll be fine" all is fine in gothy's world. One second the earth is flat, the next it's round in gothy's reality.

No

the guys said he isnt voting for Obama since he wants to be rich someday and if he falls short of the tax bracket that Obama is raising taxes on, he speculates that Obama would raise his taxes anyway

[The Blob]

That's not what he is saying.

He is saying that he doesn't think it is fair for Obama to tax the American dream. (A sentimate Obama has NO answer for, BTW... other than to say we need to spread the wealth.)

Then he is saying that he (Joe), himself, one day hopes to achieve that dream and does not want to be punished for it either.

[Gothmog]

Originally Posted by The Blob

That's not what he is saying.

He is saying that he doesn't think it is fair for Obama to tax the American dream. (A sentimate Obama has NO answer for, BTW... other than to say we need to spread the wealth.)

Then he is saying that he (Joe), himself, one day hopes to achieve that dream and does not want to be punished for it either.

I was going on the video I saw. He hates Obama's tax policy...the one that gives a 3% increase to those making $150k or more per year.

In other words, he hates the tax policy that does not exist

[BLACK6PACK]

Is it $150k as you pulled out of your a$$, 200K a year that obama says sometimes, or $250 that he says the other half of the time. The guy has no track record. If you think he'll do what he says he'll do you're bound to believe the guy on here known as gothy that doesn't stand his ground more than 5 minutes. Another funny thing about gothy is he makes up his own facts, and presented with indesputible facts he makes up his own reality. I'm pretty sure your hero obama will do the same.

[whitehot84]

I'm starting to suspect that Goth is one of the "spin doctors" we so often hear about. He sure is good at it.

[87gta-turbo]

Originally Posted by Gothmog

"I'm not voting for Obama because of a policy that later on in life I might fall victim to - if it were changed"

He's not for a mild tax increase for rich people because he wants to be rich someday, and because that policy might change, so he isnt voting for Obama because of a policy that Obama DOESNT HAVE.

the guys said he isnt voting for Obama since he wants to be rich someday and if he falls short of the tax bracket that Obama is raising taxes on, he speculates that Obama would raise his taxes anyway

Let us apply these horse$hit statments to liberals and see how it suddenly makes sense to you.

A "liberal Woman" might not vote for McCain because he is prolife-- she is not pregnant but maybe in the future and speculating that McCain might be able to reverse Roe vs Wade.

A gays wont support McCain/Palin becuase they are opposed to gay mariage, yet it is up to the states to decide but they still will not vote for him.

"So and So" peace-nick will not support McCain/Palin because they said they wont pull out the U S troops NOW.

So if you cant base your decision on speculation WTF do you use a crystal ball!?
I mean come on. Its all speculation until someone is actually elected and we see what they do; until the we HAVE TO SPECULATE.
and the fact that Obuma responded to this man with some socialist mantra is what got all the leftys in a tizzy. This was like he thought out loud by mistake and they are trying to set the spin machine on high to make people forget the real issue.

[Gothmog]

Originally Posted by 87gta-turbo

Let us apply these horse$hit statments to liberals and see how it suddenly makes sense to you.

A "liberal Woman" might not vote for McCain because he is prolife-- she is not pregnant but maybe in the future and speculating that McCain might be able to reverse Roe vs Wade.

A gays wont support McCain/Palin becuase they are opposed to gay mariage, yet it is up to the states to decide but they still will not vote for him.

"So and So" peace-nick will not support McCain/Palin because they said they wont pull out the U S troops NOW.

So if you cant base your decision on speculation WTF do you use a crystal ball!?
I mean come on. Its all speculation until someone is actually elected and we see what they do; until the we HAVE TO SPECULATE.
and the fact that Obuma responded to this man with some socialist mantra is what got all the leftys in a tizzy. This was like he thought out loud by mistake and they are trying to set the spin machine on high to make people forget the real issue.

not a good example

Obama will tax Joe X
McCain will tax Joe Y

Joe the idiot says he's going with McCain because Obama may change his X to a Z and Joe doesnt like Z

[87gta-turbo]

Originally Posted by Gothmog

not a good example

Obama will tax Joe X
McCain will tax Joe Y

Joe the idiot says he's going with McCain because Obama may change his X to a Z and Joe doesnt like Z

Your right they werent good examples they were GREAT examples of how people make their decsions.

The whole thing regardless of Joes status is he got O to bear his socialist soul with the "spread the wealth" statement.
Of all the proper responses he could have made, even questioning him back and this wouldnt have gotten the publicity it has.

[BLACK6PACK]

You know it wasn't a good example because it makes Gothy have to think about his stance on the issue, and if it goes against what gothy believes he makes up a new reality.

[VernLee]

When Neil Cavuto asked Joe the plumber how he was going to vote, Joe said
that was between him and the voting machine but, he urged all people to vote.
Maybe after getting beat up by the liberal media, he has made up his mind to vote Mccain, and who could blame him ?