So will criminal charges be filed against Palin?

[rtviper]

The reason I don't name call and get angry is, your responses. Your response is kind of like watching children argue. Everything is someone else's fault.
Now everyone is conspiring against the Campaign to Nowhere. How can you be angry when reading funny material. Just letting everyone read the response is better then correcting all the mistakes.
I just don't get the Chimp reference you use often? If your trying to imply Obama and his ethnic group resemble Chimps then at least your consistent. Consistently wrong as usual, the Chimp more closely resembles the Caucasian Race as they are thinned lip unlike the African American.
But hey no one said educating you was going to be easy.

[IEATV8S]

Originally Posted by rtviper

The reason I don't name call and get angry is, your responses. Your response is kind of like watching children argue. Everything is someone else's fault.
Now everyone is conspiring against the Campaign to Nowhere. How can you be angry when reading funny material. Just letting everyone read the response is better then correcting all the mistakes.
I just don't get the Chimp reference you use often? If your trying to imply Obama and his ethnic group resemble Chimps then at least your consistent. Consistently wrong as usual, the Chimp more closely resembles the Caucasian Race as they are thinned lip unlike the African American.
But hey no one said educating you was going to be easy.

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!

[PCS74]

Originally Posted by rtviper

PCS the support for the Campaign to Nowhere is really humorous. You can only lie about what is going on to support your beliefs. Obviously you refuse to read the critique of the debates or you would see the preponderance of lies the Repubs tell in each debate.
Like flock to like, so McCain/Palin much like GW are another 6-pack pairing. They attract similar support from the common public. McCain is not very bright and Graduated about 940 of 945 at the Naval Academy.
Palin went through 5 different colleges to finally graduate.
Obama and Biden both have Dr. Degrees in Law and specialize in Constitutional Law; you know the Laws that Bush/Cheney don't think apply to them. Biden teaches Constitutional Law part time.
A good barometer of the debates is not the party line but the undecided voters. They have concluded by more then 75% Biden and Obama have won the debates.
The rein of lies and distortions to win election will come to an end. No more Swift Boat Campaigns, no more relatives to eliminate votes in Florida and finally no more lies to go to war or ignoring critical information that could have prevented 9/11

What is is like to live in a world where down is up, and yes means no?



Home depot...

Breitbart.tv » Radio Host Calls DE Home Depots To Check Biden ‘Spend A Lot Of Time’ Claim


Katie's...

During the debate, Joe Biden gave several Delaware shout-outs, including Wilmington's Union Street...
Maybe, I heard this wrong, or misunderstood, but I think he mentioned Katie's restaurant......

Wilmington used to have a Katie's restaurant - way back in the day - and it was in Little Italy, as is Union Street, but I'm almost positive Katie's wasn't on Union Street.
And it hasn't been Katie's in, well, years. Maybe he said Kozy's - as in Kozy Korner?


UPDATED ON FRIDAY: OK, here's the deal, last night Biden did mention Katie's restaurant and Union Street.

But I checked The News Journal archives this morning and, well, don't plan on trying to find it on Union Street anytime soon. And I wonder if the Katie's today, which is now actually Wings to Go at Katies, is the same Katie's that Joe remembers.....

Katie's was at the corner of Sixth and Scott streets in Wilmington's Little Italy neighborhood. (Not Union Street.) It had been a local and much-loved institution, well known for its rich, thick Italian gravy (tomato sauce) and spaghetti. It was opened in 1936 by Silvio Spiezio, who later sold it in 1945. The Fugilino family owned and ran the restaurant for years until it was sold in the 1981 after Frances Mae Fugilino's death.

Katie's then changed hands again in 1985, but new owners kept the venerable name.

But it eventually changed hands again - at least 10 years ago, maybe even more like 15 years ago (SEE UPDATE BELOW) - and was renamed C.J. Bart's, which according to features reporter Ryan Cormier in a May 2008 News Journal story became " a spot with an unsavory reputation as a magnet for panhandlers and worse."

Cormier reported that Nate Johnson, owner of the Wilmington and Dewey Beach Wings to Go restaurants, recently took over CJ Bart's and renamed it Wings to Go at Katies "as an homage to its former residents.
(Photo above was taken in May 2008 by News Journal photographer William Bretzger of the crowd hanging at the new "Wings to Go at Katies.")

"The first thing we did is clear out the riffraff. If you come in my restaurant, you're not going to be bothered by people asking you for change or to buy them a beer," Johnson told The News Journal "You're protected in there. It is nothing like C.J. Barts. That place is dead and gone forever."
***NEW UPDATE: Ryan Cormier just spoke to Johnson and he said that Katie's closed in the 1980s.
Here's a link to Ryan's blog with photos he shot this morning of a faded Katie's sign.

Not only is Wings to Go at Katies a franchise of the local chicken-wings favorite, but there's a full bar, video games and a spot for bands to play."

"We've always been looking for a spot to do wings and beer, since they go so naturally together," said Johnson.

According to Cormier, "the sounds of jamming rock bands now fill the air surrounding the bar Wednesday through Saturday nights. Sometimes, blues bands make an appearance as well."

Maybe Biden did mean to mention the Kozy Korner, which is on Union Street? Or perhaps, he should have given a shout-out to Mrs. Robino's or Walter's Steakhouse, two Union Street restaurant institutions?

Plagiarism...

LEAD: Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., fighting to salvage his Presidential campaign, today acknowledged ''a mistake'' in his youth, when he plagiarized a law review article for a paper he wrote in his first year at law school.

Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., fighting to salvage his Presidential campaign, today acknowledged ''a mistake'' in his youth, when he plagiarized a law review article for a paper he wrote in his first year at law school.

Mr. Biden insisted, however, that he had done nothing ''malevolent,'' that he had simply misunderstood the need to cite sources carefully. And he asserted that another controversy, concerning recent reports of his using material from others' speeches without attribution, was ''much ado about nothing.''

Mr. Biden, the 44-year-old Delaware Democrat who heads the Senate Judiciary Committee, addressed these issues at the Capitol in a morning news conference he had called expressly for that purpose. The news conference was held just before he presided over the third day of hearings on the nomination of Judge Robert H. Bork to the Supreme Court.

To buttress his assertions of sincerity and openness, Mr. Biden released a 65-page file, obtained by the Senator from the Syracuse University College of Law, that he said contained all the records of his years there. It disclosed relatively poor grades in college and law school, mixed evaluations from teachers and details of the plagiarism.

Both the current dean of the law school and Mr. Biden's professor today played down the incident of plagiarism. [ Page A23. ] Brushing aside any suggestion that he might be forced to withdraw from the Presidential race, Mr. Biden declared at the news conference, ''I'm in the race to stay, I'm in the race to win, and here I come.'' Blames Rivals

Mr. Biden also suggested that the recent damaging information about him had originated with other campaigns, which he did not identify, and that it had emerged now because he was enjoying a chance in the limelight with the Bork hearings.

''Look, I'm a big boy,'' he said. ''I've been in politics for 15 years. This is not my style. If they want to do it this way, so be it.''

The file distributed by the Senator included a law school faculty report, dated Dec. 1, 1965, that concluded that Mr. Biden had ''used five pages from a published law review article without quotation or attribution'' and that he ought to be failed in the legal methods course for which he had submitted the 15-page paper.

The plagiarized article, ''Tortious Acts as a Basis for Jurisdiction in Products Liability Cases,'' was published in the Fordham Law Review of May 1965. Mr. Biden drew large chunks of heavy legal prose directly from it, including such sentences as: ''The trend of judicial opinion in various jurisdictions has been that the breach of an implied warranty of fitness is actionable without privity, because it is a tortious wrong upon which suit may be brought by a non-contracting party.'' Just One Footnote

In his paper, Mr. Biden included a single footnote to the Fordham Law Review article.

In a letter defending himself, dated Nov. 30, 1965, Mr. Biden pleaded with the faculty not to dismiss him from the school.

''My intent was not to deceive anyone,'' Mr. Biden wrote. ''For if it were, I would not have been so blatant.''

At another point, the young Mr. Biden said that ''if I had intended to cheat, would I have been so stupid?''

''I value my word above all else,'' the impassioned letter said. ''This is a fact which is known to all those who are or have been acquainted with my character.'' Misunderstanding, He Says

Mr. Biden said today, as he did 22 years ago, that he had misunderstood the rules of citation and footnoting.

''I was wrong, but I was not malevolent in any way,'' Mr. Biden said. ''I did not intentionally move to mislead anybody. And I didn't. To this day I didn't.''

The faculty ruled that Mr. Biden would get an F in the course but would have the grade stricken when he retook it the next year. Mr. Biden eventually received a grade of 80 in the course, which, he joked today, prevented him from falling even further in his class rank. Mr. Biden, who graduated from the law school in 1968, was 76th in a class of 85.

Policy...

1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.

2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.

3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”

4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.

5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.

6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.

7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false

8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.

9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.

10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.

11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.

12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.

13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”

14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.

Obama the constitutional lawyer... How does one become a constitutional lawyer when they have never clerked for a supreme court justice, they have never tried a constitutional case, and they have never published a single paper in over 12 years of practice?

At a recent fundraiser, Barack Obama told the crowd, "I was a constitutional law professor, which means unlike the current president I actually respect the Constitution." I hope Obama was smiling when he said this because, if anything, constitutional law professors are less likely than their fellow Americans (or the current president) to respect the Constitution. As Obama surely knows, some Con Law profs view the Constitution as a malleable document that's worthy of respect only to the extent it can be interpreted to mandate, or at least not impede, the enactment of their preferred political, social, and economic agenda. The respect in these cases is not for the Constitution but for the agenda, and perhaps for the professor's own cleverness in manipulating the Constitution to accommodate it.

For the record, Obama is a "Senior Lecturer (on leave of absence)" at the University of Chicago Law School. Apparently, he has taught Constitutional Law III: Equal Protection and Substantive Due Process, Current Issues in Racism & the Law, and Voting Rights & the Democratic Process.

Frankly, Obama's credentials seem a bit thin to be teaching constitutional law at a school of Chicago's caliber, even as an adjunct professor teaching a non-core course. Obama does not appear to have practiced in the field of constitutional law, nor did he clerk for a Supreme Court Justice or publish in the field.

I'm guessing this was a "marriage" of convenience. Obama got something to add to his resume and the University got an upwardly mobile minority faculty member. And in the unlikely event that some of his students were complaining then, they probably aren't now.

Let's look at that course again... He was a specialist in racism and voting fraud. It makes perfect sense why he was such a valuable ACORN asset.

Constitutional Law III: Equal Protection and Substantive Due Process, Current Issues in Racism & the Law, and Voting Rights & the Democratic Process.

How does one become a constitutional specialist when their thesis subject matter is about foreign policy decisions and not even about law or the constitution?

NBC Senior Investigative Producer Jim Popkin looks at "Obama and the case of the missing 'thesis'" in an item on NBC blog Deep Background.

Conservative provocateurs have been hunting for it. Investigative journalists have been on the prowl, too. Even a former professor has been searching through old boxes for his copy of it. But today Barack Obama made it official: He doesn’t have and can’t release any copies of the thesis-length paper he wrote 25 years ago while a senior at Columbia University.

“We do not have a copy of the course paper you requested and neither does Columbia University,” Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt told NBC News.

The hunt for Obama’s senior “thesis” began with a throwaway line in a newspaper article last October. The New York Times story, on Obama’s early New York years, mentioned in passing that the presidential contender had majored in political science at Columbia and had spent his time “writing his thesis on Soviet nuclear disarmament.”

Journalists began hounding Columbia University for copies of the musty document. Conservative bloggers began wondering if the young Obama had written a no-nukes screed that he might come to regret. And David Bossie, the former congressional investigator and “right-wing hit man,” as one newspaper described him, took out classified newspaper ads in Columbia University’s newspaper and the Chicago Tribune in March searching for the term paper.

So what does the missing paper say, and could it be politically damaging to Obama? The Obama campaign won’t offer any guidance since it says it doesn’t have a copy. Spokesman Ben LaBolt wouldn’t even say whether Sen. Obama threw out his copy or lost it.

So we turned for answers to the former professor who graded the now-elusive paper. His former professor, Michael Baron, recalled in an interview with NBC News that Obama easily aced the year-long class. Baron described the paper as a “thesis” or “senior thesis” in several interviews, and said that Obama spent a year working on it. Baron recalls that the topic was nuclear negotiations with the Soviet Union.

“My recollection is that the paper was an analysis of the evolution of the arms reduction negotiations between the Soviet Union and the United States,” Baron said in an e-mail. “At that time, a hot topic in foreign policy circles was finding a way in which each country could safely reduce the large arsenal of nuclear weapons pointed at the other … For U.S. policy makers in both political parties, the aim was not disarmament, but achieving deep reductions in the Soviet nuclear arsenal and keeping a substantial and permanent American advantage. As I remember it, the paper was about those negotiations, their tactics and chances for success. Barack got an A.”

Baron said that, even if he could find a copy of the paper, it would likely disappoint Obama’s critics. “The course was not a polemical course, it was a course in decision making and how decisions got made,” he said. “None of the papers in the class were controversial.”

That's just a very minor sample, but even with that I don't expect you to wake up from your lie induced slumber.



This is for you...

They load the clip in omnicolor
They pack the 9, they fire it at prime time
Sleeping gas, every home was like Alcatraz
And mutha f**kas lost their minds

No escape from the mass mind rape
Play it again jack and then rewind the tape
Play it again and again and again
Until ya mind is locked in
Believin' all the lies that they are tellin' ya
Buying all the products that they are selling ya
They say jump
Ya say how high
Ya brain dead
Ya gotta f**kin' bullet in your head

Keep chewing up all the bs they've been selling you, you're already grown fat on their deceit.

[IEATV8S]

Originally Posted by PCS74

What is is like to live in a world where down is up, and yes means no?



Home depot...

Breitbart.tv » Radio Host Calls DE Home Depots To Check Biden ‘Spend A Lot Of Time’ Claim


Katie's...




Plagiarism...




Policy...




Obama the constitutional lawyer... How does one become a constitutional lawyer when they have never clerked for a supreme court justice, they have never tried a constitutional case, and they have never published a single paper in over 12 years of practice?




Let's look at that course again... He was a specialist in racism and voting fraud. It makes perfect sense why he was such a valuable ACORN asset.




How does one become a constitutional specialist when their thesis subject matter is about foreign policy decisions and not even about law or the constitution?



That's just a very minor sample, but even with that I don't expect you to wake up from your lie induced slumber.



This is for you...




Keep chewing up all the bs they've been selling you, you're already grown fat on their deceit.

[rtviper]

Yes Palin is a piece of work. Not only did she bill the State $17000. for travel expenses while she worked out of her home she let her Hubby use the Gov. Office. As Mayor she made all Rape Victims pay $1200. for the Rape Kit to prove they had been violated. She has done a lot in such a short time.
And you are aware I am sure that she could sleep around if elected and round up enough support to have McCain removed from office and take his place. She would only have to sleep with about 2/3 of Congress but hey she is a Maverick and should not be a problem. That would be a scary siituation

[PCS74]

Originally Posted by rtviper

Yes Palin is a piece of work. Not only did she bill the State $17000. for travel expenses while she worked out of her home she let her Hubby use the Gov. Office. As Mayor she made all Rape Victims pay $1200. for the Rape Kit to prove they had been violated. She has done a lot in such a short time.
And you are aware I am sure that she could sleep around if elected and round up enough support to have McCain removed from office and take his place. She would only have to sleep with about 2/3 of Congress but hey she is a Maverick and should not be a problem. That would be a scary siituation

You win... this is the dumbest post ever in terms of both accuracy of information and the thought process used to create it.

[IEATV8S]

Palin promises to go easy on Babbling Biden in debate


Bitem, ALMOST as dumb and lies just as much as the CHIMP!

Joe's BULLCHIT diarrhea potty mouth!

YouTube - Sen. Biden calls BULL**** on Bush smearing Obama from Israel

Joe's STAND UP CHUCK to a wheelchair bound man! Ya can tell I'm NEW at this!!!!

YouTube - Joe Biden Tells Chuck Graham to Stand Up

Ya can't go to a 7-11 UNLESS you have a slight Indian accent!!!

YouTube - Joe Biden's racist slip

My State was a SLAVE STATE!!!!!

YouTube - Sen. Biden Brags: "My State Was A Slave State"

Biden thinks Gun Owner should have his head examined!

YouTube - Biden thinks gun owner should have his head examined

The Presidency is not for ON THE JOB TRAINING!

YouTube - Joe Biden On Barack Obama

Obama, main stream African American who is Clean, articulate, bright and nice looking!!

YouTube - Match Made in Heaven: Biden VP to a Clean Obama

BUT, I'm not running for Vice President!!!

YouTube - Joe Biden Tells His First Fib as Obama's VP (Vice President)

Being a DRUNK jerk and being taped!!!!

YouTube - The Drunk: Joe Biden drunk singing gaffe Obama vice president

Barack AMERICA!!!!!!

YouTube - Barack Obama , Joe Biden Gaffes Begin

Be PATRIOTIC, PAY higher taxes!!!!!

YouTube - Be Patriotic and Pay Higher Taxes

Joe and NObama got tested for AIDS!!!!!

YouTube - Joe Biden says Barack Obama got tested for Aids

Biden's "McCain computer ad" was "TERRIBLE"!!!!

YouTube - Biden: Obama ad attacking McCain "Terrible"

Biden elitism - Obama too smart & well educated for you to relate to

YouTube - Biden elitism - Obama too smart & well educated for you to relate to

Joe Biden on Renewables and Coal, Opposite NObama's stance!

YouTube - Joe Biden on Renewables and Coal in Maumee, OH

INSTILL CONFIDENCE? FDR when the market crashed got on TV!

YouTube - Biden: FDR Led When Market Crashed

I Got a much higher IQ then you do!

YouTube - 1988 Road to the White House with Sen. Biden

Hillary Clinton is qualified or MORE qualified then I am, she might have been the better pick!!!

YouTube - Unbelievable - Joe Biden says Hillary Clinton is better VP than he is.

Biden calls Palin a Lt. Governor?

YouTube - Biden Gaffe: Lt. Governor of Alaska?

Doesn't know the difference between Brigades Or Battalions!

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[scot w.]

Originally Posted by rtviper

V8 I admire your choice of cars but for once just think about your challenge? Why would I care to travel a distance to race someone when I can race in my area.
Also you have said you have a 109 block and I know some are running really well with them but I don't think you are in the low 9's with yours.
I have also upgraded my power range to well over 1000 hp. I really think this is out of the 109 range so why bother?

I think he has thought about his challenge towards you. It's obvious you have too and YOU are now coming up with excusses! Your sig shows (low 10's) now all of a sudden when somone challenges you to a race now you have this newfound 1000+HP and now you claim to be at (low 9's) Time to change your sig huh?

Let me get this straight, Someone challenges you to a race and your trying to talk him out of it because he has less than you do? LOL That's funny right there!!! If you have more, a faster car why not say "Shure, Why not!"
If what you say you have is true it should be a no brainer. But to try and talk a man out of a race because he has less is crazy!

Like Grumpy say's: "Don't run your mouth if you can't run your car!"

[rtviper]

Actually doing him a favor. Yes I need to change my sig and will in do time. I have not giving any thought at all. I am reminded when I read his ricer challenge. You ask why not race if its not much of a contest, I ask why bother?
So you would race any Civic, Subaru or other challenger because you have more power and would most likely win? I used to get challenges all the time when I owned the Viper and refused most of them for the same reason. Most were an attempt to just see how the Viper would run not because they thought they would win. Seems like a waste of time to me but whatever floats your boat. I don't know too many others who would accept any and all challenges that are quite a mismatch, let alone travel any distance to do so. Gee maybe I should challenge Dusty to a race and when he laughs at me (rightfully so) claim, see he must not have a fast car. Kids?
I will repeat bring your car out here and I will oblige
I do not know what the combo will run but the combo has been 6.0 in the 1/8 on low boost, in the teens, which is about a 9.2 1/4 pass.
I have never challenged another person to a race on the Internet. Talk about Keyboard bravado

[V8Assassin]

Originally Posted by rtviper

Actually doing him a favor. Yes I need to change my sig and will in do time. I have not giving any thought at all. I am reminded when I read his ricer challenge. You ask why not race if its not much of a contest, I ask why bother?
So you would race any Civic, Subaru or other challenger because you have more power and would most likely win? I used to get challenges all the time when I owned the Viper and refused most of them for the same reason. Most were an attempt to just see how the Viper would run not because they thought they would win. Seems like a waste of time to me but whatever floats your boat. I don't know too many others who would accept any and all challenges that are quite a mismatch, let alone travel any distance to do so. Gee maybe I should challenge Dusty to a race and when he laughs at me (rightfully so) claim, see he must not have a fast car. Kids?
I will repeat bring your car out here and I will oblige
I do not know what the combo will run but the combo has been 6.0 in the 1/8 on low boost, in the teens, which is about a 9.2 1/4 pass.
I have never challenged another person to a race on the Internet. Talk about Keyboard bravado

BWAHAHAHAHAHHAH...........ex viper owner, did ya get rid of your gold chains and moustache when you got rid of it???? or were you just tired of driving an overpriced POS dodge that sounds like a go-cart????

Is that your only way to respond, ooooh ex ricer come out here? Like I said, not much chance you are coming to a Buick event is there??? You have dodged that question everyway possible, so I guess the answer is no.

[rtviper]

The overpriced POS as you call it set many records on the track that still stand today. The Viper gave Mercedes its first Manufacturer Championship after 100 years of racing. Why would I get rid of my moustache? Women don't mind going through a little brush to get to a picnic.
Do I hear a little sour grapes there?
You are the one challenging me so load it up and come out here. I have never understood the ricer mentality of a challenge then say bring your car to me so we can race. I will repeat yes I will race you if you come out here if not then don't look for me to come to you. How foolish is that? If you want to race me so bad I can give you directions to get here. I thought the ricer challenge had gone away with the death of import performance . Guess not

[scot w.]

(rtviper), Still dodging the one question he asked. It's a simple yes/no answer..

Do you EVER attend ANY buick events with your car?

If so, I belive he would love to line up next to this newfound 9sec car.. I seem to miss this so called ricer call out.

Pretty simple to me! If you think your faster than him & he thinks he's faster than you then I think it would make a good race. Plus his car is FAR from your examples of honda's & subaru's!!!

[V8Assassin]

Originally Posted by rtviper

The overpriced POS as you call it set many records on the track that still stand today. The Viper gave Mercedes its first Manufacturer Championship after 100 years of racing. Why would I get rid of my moustache? Women don't mind going through a little brush to get to a picnic.
Do I hear a little sour grapes there?
You are the one challenging me so load it up and come out here. I have never understood the ricer mentality of a challenge then say bring your car to me so we can race. I will repeat yes I will race you if you come out here if not then don't look for me to come to you. How foolish is that? If you want to race me so bad I can give you directions to get here. I thought the ricer challenge had gone away with the death of import performance . Guess not

It's amusing with the ricer comments, more so now given knowing a little more about your history. What happened you get beat down by a little 6 one night in your overpriced POS dodge and just couldn't figure it out. Well at least you have been turned to the darkside, I applaude you for making the right choice.

Me, I have been waiting since I was a kid to build my first GN. Never had any ricers or other "fast cars", I don't count the mustang cause it was just slow, waited till I had put myself in a position to afford to be able to build what I wanted. Can't decide now if the next project will be a stage or a ls project, would like to add another Regal, but want to keep the 6 cyl heritage.

I would really like to put my 109 up to your stage, it will be difficult if you are not coming to a Buick event. How about BG next May, it's alot of fun! You should come, have a grudge race and enjoy all the cars.

[rtviper]

Never raced a Buick v6 with the Dodge. It was just a low 12 second car as it was completely stock. It was a fun car to drive and I enjoyed it for several years.
I no longer have the v6 GN. I now have a twin turbo v8 GN. I loved the v6 but the stories about breaking this and breaking that made me hesitant to flog the car on a regular basis. The new motor put out 1090 hp at 16 lbs boost, with a max of close to 1400 hp. I will make a few runs during the next couple weeks starting out with single digit boost and low 10's for now. It made 719 hp and 700 lbs tq on 9 lbs boost. That should be somewhere in the 10's.

[scot w.]

Originally Posted by rtviper

Never raced a Buick v6 with the Dodge. It was just a low 12 second car as it was completely stock. It was a fun car to drive and I enjoyed it for several years.
I no longer have the v6 GN. I now have a twin turbo v8 GN. I loved the v6 but the stories about breaking this and breaking that made me hesitant to flog the car on a regular basis. The new motor put out 1090 hp at 16 lbs boost, with a max of close to 1400 hp. I will make a few runs during the next couple weeks starting out with single digit boost and low 10's for now. It made 719 hp and 700 lbs tq on 9 lbs boost. That should be somewhere in the 10's.

You do realize your story has changed SEVERAL times in the previous threads right?

1) You went from telling (v8assasin) that he can't beat a stage motor.... (WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ONE)

2) You mentioned that the car now has 1,000+ hp and now goes 9.0's (WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THE CAR!)

3) You now mention that you don't even have that car anymore and now you have a TT V8? (BOY IT'S HARD TO BELIVE!!)

Your sounding like Ol' NObama by changing your story so much!! LOL

[V8Assassin]

Originally Posted by rtviper

Never raced a Buick v6 with the Dodge. It was just a low 12 second car as it was completely stock. It was a fun car to drive and I enjoyed it for several years.
I no longer have the v6 GN. I now have a twin turbo v8 GN. I loved the v6 but the stories about breaking this and breaking that made me hesitant to flog the car on a regular basis. The new motor put out 1090 hp at 16 lbs boost, with a max of close to 1400 hp. I will make a few runs during the next couple weeks starting out with single digit boost and low 10's for now. It made 719 hp and 700 lbs tq on 9 lbs boost. That should be somewhere in the 10's.

So let me get this straight, that was your car that went to vegasse, who just resold it.

You are trying to call me out on a ricer mentality and you just took a GN and put a V8 in it???? That's exactly what I was refering to about keeping the V6 heritage. You did this because you heard stories, not experience huh??

I'm not even going to sit here and rip on you for disgracing the GN with a V8, at least you could have converted a T or na Regal, or the fact it seems every car you have had doesn't reach it's potential. Have fun babying this one too!

[rtviper]

At least you guys are consistent. Consistently confused. The kids have been challenging me for weeks now. I was driving the v6 car when 1st called out and told him if you cant beat a 10.0 why bother. Also if you have any v6 knowledge at all you might understand a 10.0 on 21 lbs boost has plenty left on the table.
The car already had a v8 in it and if you have a problem call up Duttweiler and tell him what a fool he is for messing up a GN lmao
Did I hear stories about the v6 motors being somewhat fragile when in the 10's and 9's; yes and saw it first hand here in WA. with local v6 guys.
Maybe you think its just a myth?
I guess your 12.3 car with the 109 is full potential, or were you just babying it?
Scott sorry I don't have a score card for tweedle dee and tweedle dum you'll just have to pay closer attention to the timeline of this ongoing thread

[rtviper]

Scott you surely don't want to go down the path of changing stories by the candidates do you?
In the last year McCain has went from I will not bailout anyone who made a bad decision and took out a loan for more then he could pay. Now its I will buy all of these bad loans and lower the interest payments so they can afford their bad decision.
McCain also went from I didn't see this financial crisis coming in Nov. of 2007 to I have been warning everyone about this financial crisis for a long time. You should never open up Pandora's Box

[IEATV8S]

After hearing on the Obama Infomercial Network (MSNBC) that a bipartisan legislative committee in Alaska found Sarah Palin guilty of abuse of power, I thought I would check it out for myself. I have some expertise in this area of unlawful behavior by government officials concerning public employees.

Well, as far as I can tell, and this is breaking fast, there is no legislative finding whatsoever! In fact, the report itself recommends only some legislative changes and no penalties or sanctions that I can find.

There is a report by a lawyer named Stephen Branchflower. A committee voted to release the report but took no further action.

The gulf between what the MSM is saying about this and what actually happened is huge. It makes you wonder what else they are fibbing about.

Update: The legislature doesn't appear to have any jurisdiction over the ethics code. The Attorney General and Personnel Board do have such jurisdiction. There is a bar on acting on complaints against a governor who is running for re-election.

The legislature can impeach but that must start in the Senate. The group that commissioned this report is made up of state senators and house members.

If I was Palin's lawyer, I'd be thinking due process violations. I can say with near certainty that no competent body has found any violations by Palin.

Again, my primary concern here is to warn readers to be very skeptical in these troubled times about what the MSM is trying to sell them.

Update: This AP story gets it right but with a misleading headline.

[V8Assassin]

Originally Posted by rtviper

At least you guys are consistent. Consistently confused. The kids have been challenging me for weeks now. I was driving the v6 car when 1st called out and told him if you cant beat a 10.0 why bother. Also if you have any v6 knowledge at all you might understand a 10.0 on 21 lbs boost has plenty left on the table.
The car already had a v8 in it and if you have a problem call up Duttweiler and tell him what a fool he is for messing up a GN lmao
Did I hear stories about the v6 motors being somewhat fragile when in the 10's and 9's; yes and saw it first hand here in WA. with local v6 guys.
Maybe you think its just a myth?
I guess your 12.3 car with the 109 is full potential, or were you just babying it?
Scott sorry I don't have a score card for tweedle dee and tweedle dum you'll just have to pay closer attention to the timeline of this ongoing thread

No, I don't baby my car, I build it and drive it like I stole it

12.3 was pushing it on alot of stock parts, blew the bottom end out of it and began the new build. I had no use for a stock motor!

It really doesn't matter what you run, it seems you will always be the slowest of the bunch. Don't know what else to expect from a FAGGERAL!

[rtviper]

I am sure they don't want to try and impeach her. The reasons Pelosi did not want to impeach GW was leaving him in office was a guarantee that the Democrats would win the Election this year. Same goes for Palin. The damage has been done as the Campaign to Nowhere has continued to lose support from women all over the US.
If there is such a thing as a Lame Duck cadency you have one in McCain/Palin
I am kinda feeling sorry for McCain as he tries to not get caught up in all the racism, and bigotry. He should not have let his advisors run Palin down his throat. It is too little too late

[IEATV8S]

Can you imagine listening, much less looking at this b!tch everyday? First Lady???? ROTFLMFAO!!!!

[Mac in SD]

Originally Posted by The Blob

Yes, criminal charges definitely will be filed and she will ultimately be found guilty and sent to prison... but it in the meantime it will cost McCain the election.

Then, hopefully, under an Obama presidency the tax deduction for luxury SUV's will be repealed and fairness will finally be restored in this country.

Oh, man...I really dig your stuff.

[Mac in SD]

Originally Posted by rtviper

The lies and distortions told by the Campaign to Nowhere are in much larger numbers then Obama and Biden. You cant spin your way out of that one.
Palin was corrupt after only a couple of months in office. Not only did her hubby spend more time in her office then her he operated like he was the Governor. Palin still charged over $17000. dollars for travel expenses while she ran the State out of her home. She also supports a Group that wants Alaska to succeed from the USA.
Now McCain is a real prize. Like GW he had extremely low aptitude scores in the service and wouldn't have become a pilot if not for his Daddies position. As a pilot he wrecked 4 airplanes all do to negligence.
As fellow POW have attested he was given preferential treatment by the enemy as a POW and gave them anything and everything they asked him for. He also was never tortured as he claims.
As for the Keating Five he helped defraud the elderly out of hundreds of millions of Dollars and helped Keating deregulate the Banking Industry to enable this financial crisis.
Not only is he inept he isn't even in control as it now appears he didn't want Palin as the VP nominee but was told this was the best choice.
Yep a real leader
But then you had nowhere to go but up even with 6-pak McCain.

Everything - EVERYTHING - you posted here is a lie. All of it.

Either you're a typical Seattle-area Red-diaper type who is too brainwashed to know that you get your info from B.S. sources, or you're another one who knows better but spews lies anyway. Only the furthest of the left would denigrate McCain's military service - and that's because he fought the friggin' commies. And I'll guaran-fockin-tee you don't have a leg to stand on criticizing ANYONE's service. So, you SUCK all the way around.

You're what, 66? Time to cut off the ponytail and grow up, gramps.

[rtviper]

Sorry Mac in STD but its all true. You have listened to lies so long you cant handle the truth.
You will have to get over it cause you will have Obama to live with for the next 8 years. Thanks to the missteps and lies from McCain and Palin. You also have Rush Bimbo doing a lot of damage on his talk show.
The days of lying your way into office are coming to an end. GW was the last to accomplish that and look how well that's turned out.
Gee so you don't like a little of the Swift Boat technique when it's directed at your boy. You reap what you sew.

[rtviper]

V8 I will always run what I chose to run. When others have gone into the 10's with stock motor and diff turbo and cooler you shouldn't criticize others for under achieving when you ran a 12.3 and blew it up. Just some good old advice.

[scot w.]

Originally Posted by scot w.

(rtviper), Still dodging the one question he asked. It's a simple yes/no answer..

Do you EVER attend ANY buick events with your car?

WELL?

[rtviper]

Yes I have been to turbo thunder here in WA. It is put on every year by Geno and crew

[Gothmog]

Originally Posted by Mac in SD

Everything - EVERYTHING - you posted here is a lie. All of it.

.

It is true.

[V8Assassin]

Originally Posted by rtviper

Sorry Mac in STD but its all true. You have listened to lies so long you cant handle the truth.
You will have to get over it cause you will have Obama to live with for the next 8 years. Thanks to the missteps and lies from McCain and Palin. You also have Rush Bimbo doing a lot of damage on his talk show.
The days of lying your way into office are coming to an end. GW was the last to accomplish that and look how well that's turned out.
Gee so you don't like a little of the Swift Boat technique when it's directed at your boy. You reap what you sew.

It was my understanding that the President ran every four years, not eight. Just cause GWB was able to get elected twice doesn't mean nobama will. I admit the polls look good for him, it is certainly possible he will get elected.

What is so sad is that after 66 years on the Earth you still can't accept that your party is no better than anyother. The dems have lied, cheated, and manipulated the system to serve themselves and their cronies for decades. Been going on since before you were around and you still can't see it. How is life with the blinders on. You deserve the daily whipping you get from your master if you can't look past the bs he is serving you. One thing this election and 8 years of GWB have done for me is to help get past this loyalty to party and start looking for the best candidate. Hench and some of the others have made incredible arguments bringing to light the need for more people like Ron Paul. It is sad you can't see past your own parties rhetoric. Nobama has made a career out of lies and deception, just like his predecessor who actually stood in front of the American people and debated what is the meaning of is. What a f'n JOKE!


As far as what I run or how I run it, don't worry about me. I wasn't trying not to blow it, and I wasn't concerned when I did. My plans always included scraping the stocker and going for a Cruz Missle.
As far as you go, just don't forget the walker in the back. You are obviously not into the V6 heritage, and don't mind staying at the back of the pack so why don't you head on to YB or somewhere else where people may actually believe your lies. Stay strong grandpa, the reaper ain't far behind and the way you drive he won't have any trouble catching you.

[whitehot84]

Originally Posted by V8Assassin

It was my understanding that the President ran every four years, not eight. Just cause GWB was able to get elected twice doesn't mean nobama will. I admit the polls look good for him, it is certainly possible he will get elected.

What is so sad is that after 66 years on the Earth you still can't accept that your party is no better than anyother. The dems have lied, cheated, and manipulated the system to serve themselves and their cronies for decades. Been going on since before you were around and you still can't see it. How is life with the blinders on. You deserve the daily whipping you get from your master if you can't look past the bs he is serving you. One thing this election and 8 years of GWB have done for me is to help get past this loyalty to party and start looking for the best candidate. Hench and some of the others have made incredible arguments bringing to light the need for more people like Ron Paul. It is sad you can't see past your own parties rhetoric. Nobama has made a career out of lies and deception, just like his predecessor who actually stood in front of the American people and debated what is the meaning of is. What a f'n JOKE!


As far as what I run or how I run it, don't worry about me. I wasn't trying not to blow it, and I wasn't concerned when I did. My plans always included scraping the stocker and going for a Cruz Missle.
As far as you go, just don't forget the walker in the back. You are obviously not into the V6 heritage, and don't mind staying at the back of the pack so why don't you head on to YB or somewhere else where people may actually believe your lies. Stay strong grandpa, the reaper ain't far behind and the way you drive he won't have any trouble catching you.

V8 if you do, by some strange twist of fate, ever get to line up beside this guy, make sure he is going in the right direction, unlike the rest of his thought processes.

[V8Assassin]

Originally Posted by whitehot84

V8 if you do, by some strange twist of fate, ever get to line up beside this guy, make sure he is going in the right direction, unlike the rest of his thought processes.

[salvageV6]

I think Palin will be charged with the same crime Hitlery was during Travelgate.

Grow up lying lefty libs., it's politics being played YOUR way.

Y'all start the precedents with this type of politics.

" V8 if you do, by some strange twist of fate, ever get to line up beside this guy, make sure he is going in the right direction, unlike the rest of his thought processes. "

[rtviper]

You kids are so funny and confused. You try to lecture me about the lies and deception of the democrats. All the while we are in a war created by lies and deception. Gee you still think there are WMD in Iraq or it was Iraq that masterminded 9/11. We had a horrific event on 9/11 that was preventable if GW would have just listened to the warnings about a pending terrorist attack by plane and most likely directed at the Trade Center.
Does that make one party better then the other well let history decide that one. Right now GW has the lowest rating of any pres in history so that's a good indicator.
Remember Richard Nixon?
You don't want me to worry about what you run at the track but yet you are so concerned how much I push my cars? Do you not read what you have typed in here.
I am at the back of the pack, probably, but in front of you. Why do you set yourself up for this. I presume your Cruise Missile is going to shoot you to the front of the pack with runs in the 6's?
I swear its like arguing with children. You forget what you say in here then set yourself up. Try some Ginko it's supposed to help the memory.
Yes I am older and the more I talk with kids like yourself I wionder if there is hope for this country, if you are the future, blindly supporting the regime that is in office and asking for more of the same. You should be ashamed of what you want for the young people of this world.
To the late comers who have a comment be a little more specific. Don't be like McCain if you think something is untrue then say what is a lie. "All of it is a lie". is McCainism. I don't have a problem being specific, give it a try unless you dont know what is a lie?
As for the v6 heritage I guess some of the most knowledgeable and influential people in the Buick community, that frequent this room and are bombarded with questions and advice about Buick's are not concerned either. Well from what I learned in this discussion they are the ones I would want to be associated with.
Then you want to make snide comments about age and the time I have left all the while you are praising a man 8 years older then me, you want to lead this Nation. Yikes
Again please read what you type to be more consistent
This is like shooting fish in a barrel

[rtviper]

It appears I am making my decisions based on what the parties are trying to convince us they will do if elected. Some of you are making your decisions based on Racism and Bigotry. I think you need to grow up and realize the color of the skin or gender is not a good method of evaluation.