IMMIGRATION RAID!! Gotta love ICE!

[a trail rider]

CLAP CLAP CLAP...


ICE: Nearly 600 detained in Mississippi plant raid - Yahoo! News

Worth reading if you're also tired of illegals in America!

[sixgun86gn]

We have kids without dads and pregnant mothers who got their husbands taken away," said Velez's son, Robert, youth pastor at the church. "It was like a horror story. They got handled like they were criminals."



Well.....DUH!

Thats why you should not be here illegaly.

Come here the right way and this kind of thing won't happen.

[a trail rider]

I really laughed at that part too, six! MORONS! They're being treated like criminals because they're suspected to BE criminals!!!

If we just made it legal to kill them upon a 2nd offense, our problem would cure itelf in days. But that would be too harsh for the left wing whiners.

[slow87]

Some people thought it was a bomb but then we figured out it was immigration."

ROFL

[wile87]

they will deport them and half will sneak back in within a week. they want sorrow to be felt for them. i say f**kem. i don't feel bad for thier illegal wives or kids one bit. if this happens around the country as it should, we would see the populas drop dramaticly and employers would be forced to pay a decent wage to american citizens who deserve the jobs they have but don't get them because they can pay illegals so cheaply.

[sixgun86gn]

Originally Posted by a trail rider

I really laughed at that part too, six! MORONS! They're being treated like criminals because they're suspected to BE criminals!!!

If we just made it legal to kill them upon a 2nd offense, our problem would cure itelf in days. But that would be too harsh for the left wing whiners.

I think we should be like alot of other countries on our borders. Armed to the teeth with shoot to kill orders.

Put some snipers every 500yds a couple miles in from the border so that when they shoot they are on US territory. A few get dropped and the rest will get the hint.

Thats what happens in other countries if you try to sneak in.

I don't care if they need work,thats for them to fix within their own country. Sure as hell can't fix Mexico from here,while sending billions of $$ from our economy back.

Why is it other countries want to take what we have rather than follow our examples and do just as well where they are?

[Chuck Leeper]

And, the really BS commentary came from the "company mouthpiece". They go as far as allowed, to verify the alien status of all applicants...
Let's see:
1. They are moving and breathing.
2. They do not speak english.
3. They have fake documents, that are so bad, a 3rd grader w/ a set of Crayolas, could make a better fake.

2 things need to happen in these raids:
1. The illegals go back home, the criminals go to jail.
2. The owners/corp officers, all get a "standardized" prison term of 5 yrs.[Pay them $3.00hr, and 10 hrs a day @ hard labor.] Once the illegals are confirmed to be illegal, U R guilty.

[a trail rider]

The good news is, ICE is doing something and it's WORKING!!!! That is, these illegals are getting to a point where they FEAR breaking our laws. That's exactly how it should be. Afterall, we have to fear the same thing and for decades now, they've not had to fear much. Even murderers are usually sent back to their own country ... and FREED!

Rack 'em up, I'll take a shot! And while it may bother me a bit, I'd shoot one or two, or however many it took for the masses to get the hint that we have laws too, and they need to abide or suffer the consequences.

All their whining about how scared they were or how they were treated just makes me laugh ... BUHBYEEEE!!!

[Weester]

Originally Posted by a trail rider

The good news is, ICE is doing something and it's WORKING!!!! That is, these illegals are getting to a point where they FEAR breaking our laws. That's exactly how it should be. Afterall, we have to fear the same thing and for decades now, they've not had to fear much. Even murderers are usually sent back to their own country ... and FREED!

Rack 'em up, I'll take a shot! And while it may bother me a bit, I'd shoot one or two, or however many it took for the masses to get the hint that we have laws too, and they need to abide or suffer the consequences.

All their whining about how scared they were or how they were treated just makes me laugh ... BUHBYEEEE!!!

Yeehaw

Lets all go "can" huntin!!!

Mexi-cans.......Afri-cans.......Puerto Ri-cans..............and even sum Ameri-cans............................

[henschman]

while i'm glad to see the law being enforced for once, i really think the law needs to change on the subject of immigration. it needs to be a whole lot easier to get into this country legally, and harder to get in illegally.

we should let in anyone who wants to come here that isn't a threat to our country. and when i say a threat, i mean an actual physical threat, like a criminal or someone carrying a deadly disease.

i don't buy into all that crap about how americans deserve high paying jobs. nobody is entitled to work any job at any wage -- you are simply entitled to contract freely with other people for whatever you can get. your rights have not been violated when the dynamics of the market drive down wages in your profession.

[sixgun86gn]

Originally Posted by henschman

while i'm glad to see the law being enforced for once, i really think the law needs to change on the subject of immigration. it needs to be a whole lot easier to get into this country legally, and harder to get in illegally.

we should let in anyone who wants to come here that isn't a threat to our country. and when i say a threat, i mean an actual physical threat, like a criminal or someone carrying a deadly disease.

i don't buy into all that crap about how americans deserve high paying jobs. nobody is entitled to work any job at any wage -- you are simply entitled to contract freely with other people for whatever you can get. your rights have not been violated when the dynamics of the market drive down wages in your profession.

So by your standards let's just invite the rest of the world to live in our utopian society until it's standing room only.

The only things we have here that they don't have are ideas and resourcefulness to change their country into one as great as ours.

Really do you think that American soil is the only place our examples will work?

We need to do more encouraging other countries and thier people to pull themselves up instead of pulling us down.

[sixgun86gn]

Originally Posted by Weester

Yeehaw

Lets all go "can" huntin!!!

Mexi-cans.......Afri-cans.......Puerto Ri-cans..............and even sum Ameri-cans............................

While your types want to give our country away,some of us are willing to fight to keep it.

You are more than welcome to stand on their side if you want to.....just stand still...

[henschman]

Originally Posted by sixgun86gn

So by your standards let's just invite the rest of the world to live in our utopian society until it's standing room only.

The only things we have here that they don't have are ideas and resourcefulness to change their country into one as great as ours.

Really do you think that American soil is the only place our examples will work?

We need to do more encouraging other countries and thier people to pull themselves up instead of pulling us down.

it's not a zero sum game. poor people from overseas add to our economy, which actually makes more jobs for everybody. also, more cheap labor means more high paying jobs for all of us educated, assimilated folks. everybody benefits, just like when countries trade freely.

and its not like people will immigrate until there is standing room only -- the inflow of people will largely be determined by the need for labor in our economy.

as a believer in limited government, i don't think the government can act unless it is protecting the rights of a citizen. what about immigration violates anybody's rights?

[sixgun86gn]

Originally Posted by henschman

it's not a zero sum game. poor people from overseas add to our economy, which actually makes more jobs for everybody. also, more cheap labor means more high paying jobs for all of us educated, assimilated folks. everybody benefits, just like when countries trade freely.

and its not like people will immigrate until there is standing room only -- the inflow of people will largely be determined by the need for labor in our economy.

as a believer in limited government, i don't think the government can act unless it is protecting the rights of a citizen. what about immigration violates anybody's rights?

It violates the rights of our young teens and adults who could use those jobs,but get passed over for some illegal that will work for less.

This in turn has made us a weak society by allowing young people to forego the bottom level jobs as a learning experience toward building a work ethic and learning the value of earning more.

I worked roofing jobs,carpentry jobs,mowed lawns,etc.

Immigrants aren't the only people who will do this work and they shouldn't be.

We would end up dependent on foreign labor instead of oil because we are too panty waisted to do some hard work. Unskilled as well.

[ghostv8]

It's about time someone did something here about this. They have been killing the job market here. There were over a thousand people, not mexicans, lined up to fill the job positions today! And they said they couldn't find people that wanted those jobs...

[a trail rider]

Originally Posted by henschman

while i'm glad to see the law being enforced for once, i really think the law needs to change on the subject of immigration. it needs to be a whole lot easier to get into this country legally, and harder to get in illegally.

we should let in anyone who wants to come here that isn't a threat to our country. and when i say a threat, i mean an actual physical threat, like a criminal or someone carrying a deadly disease.

i don't buy into all that crap about how americans deserve high paying jobs. nobody is entitled to work any job at any wage -- you are simply entitled to contract freely with other people for whatever you can get. your rights have not been violated when the dynamics of the market drive down wages in your profession.

I agree it should be easier to get in legally, and harder illegally... But we shouldn't just let anyone in that we haven't already deemed a threat for at least 1 simple reason. That is, many people may end up being a wolf in sheeps clothing and frankly, we have enough of those already.

And you may not buy into the high paying jobs thing and you may think we should get what we can. However, the law requires a minimum wage be paid to all legal workers, so we're forced to stick with it. Most workers make more, but millions are basically stuck, at least for awhile.

Your rights have indeed been violated when those dynamics of the market are highly affected in a negative way by a flood of illegal aliens who are willing to work for less than required minimum wage because at that point, you will no longer be able to get a job and you may well lose the one you have. Many states, Florida for example, are "right to work" states. Even those have min. wages.

Over the yrs, I've seen probably thousands of illegals doing manual labor jobs that lefties claim Americans "won't do" and that's just a lie, period. Americans have always been willing to do things if they need to. Not ALL of them, but enough to get it done. Probably the same percentage as any other nation. I see illegals doing lawn maintanence all the time. I know Americans are willing to do that because I know many who do and I did that for 10 long yrs as a profession. I know many illegals drive equipment and semi's too, and many are getting removed these days. I am thankful.

For me it really is this simple... Get the illegals OUT and do it now!

You made a point that poor people from other nations add to our economy... Aside from adding to our population, I disagree. Infact, most of them help strain and drain our economy. For example: A poor person from wherever happens to make it to America and soon thereafter gets direly sick- hit by a car- whatever. So they are taken by ambulance to a hospital where they're treated and nursed back to health... Only they can't pay the bill... But our tax dollars do. How's that person helped our economy?

Immigration isn't what violates our rights. ILLEGALS violate our laws merely by stepping over our borders illegally. Our wonderful "law making" court though, has now deemed it okay to give "our rights" to the world. That world, in turn, hasn't returned the favor. We need to level that field by making laws we enforce. And to an extent, our rights are being violated when those illegals take jobs they don't deserve, putting more Americans in "the system" for aid from the rest of us. Many of those illegals also send the majority of their American dollars to their home country for their own family to use in that other country, thus, making IT stronger, but not making America stronger.

And we shouldn't be fooled about another thing too. For ever illegal worker, you can figure 2 others who don't. They still use our healthcare for free, which most of us don't. They still get schooling for free too, but our taxes pay for it... For us AND them.

[a trail rider]

Originally Posted by ghostv8

It's about time someone did something here about this. They have been killing the job market here. There were over a thousand people, not mexicans, lined up to fill the job positions today! And they said they couldn't find people that wanted those jobs...

On the one hand, that's GREAT! Now more Americans may work and not need aid. On the other, there you all were, waiting for work... And seeing some illegal alien heading into the plant to do a job you might've been feeding your family with... Were you hired over them before ICE stepped in...

I've been saying this forever. People claim Americans won't do "these jobs" as if it's a fact. MOST of the people saying such things have never really had to work themselves and just consider the idea THEY wouldn't want to do such work. But when you have to feed your family... Believe me, you'll WORK!

Maybe it isn't fun, but Americans DO work. Steel mills, saw mills, metal forming, tank cleaning, fabrication of any sort, landscaping, land clearing, tree planting, asphault laying, pipe working, you name it... Americans have ALWAYS done these jobs and we know it because... LOOK AT US! We're the strongest nation in the world and it surely isn't because life is always perfect. It's because we WORK! Anyone who thinks otherwise has probably never really had a manual labor job in their lifetime.

[ghostv8]

The word here is that Howard Industries was paying the mexicans less than $5 an hour...... I hope the Feds go crazy on them. Plus the State of Mississippi gave Howard Ind. $2 million in grants to hire a certain amount of people (legal), but they chose to hire the mexicans...
You should have seen the buses that took them there everyday

BTW, the state might be asking for the money back