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Old August 23rd, 2008, 11:28 PM
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BOMBSHELL: Barack Obama Is Not a US Citizen, Not Eligible to be US President

Birth Certificate Found in Kenya. Citizen of Kenya and Indonesia. Hawaiian Certificate Forged, Suit Alleges.

Republicans Can Hardly Wait for Dems to Take Obama Bait

PRESS RELEASE: BARACK OBAMA NOT A US CITIZEN

Attorney Phil Berg on Federal Suit to Stop Obama, this week on Listen on Demand on World Crisis Radio with Webster Tarpley.

On Aug. 21st attorney Philip J. Berg requested an injunction in Federal Court against the nomination of Barack Obama, citing evidence that candidate Barack Obama is not a US citizen, and "the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated." See Berg's website, Obama Crimes .

Berg argues that Barack Obama was born in Kenya in 1961 to an American woman, Stanley Ann Dunham, and a Kenyan man, Barack Hussein Obama Senior, as reportedly shown by a birth certificate from Mombasa Maternity Hospital and witnessed by Barack's relatives. According to the law at that time, a parent could pass US citizenship on to a child born abroad if the parent was at least 19 years old. Obama's mother was only 18.

No hospital birth certificate has been produced to prove Obama was born in Hawaii, only a certificate of birth registry after the fact, which forensics experts have denounced as a forgery. New photos of the certificate were posted on the Internet on Aug. 21st at FactCheck.org, which is a project of the Annenberg Center, a longtime sponsor of Obama. It is quite suspicious in itself that the "facts" are not being "checked" by an independent source, and that only a short-form certificate without the name of the hospital is shown. Barack's mother could have flown from Kenya to Hawaii after the birth, then reported that she had the child at home, in order to secure her son's citizenship. The judge needs to subpoena Hawaiian officials to provide an original hospital report of birth.

Moreover, when Obama was six years old his mother remarried and moved with her husband to his country, Indonesia. Records indicate Obama was naturalized as an Indonesian citizen. Indonesia does not allow dual nationality, so even had he been born in Hawaii, he would have lost his citizenship then.

See Office of President for factual background of Berg's suit.

Even if Obama is able to provide a US birth certificate, a dozen more insurmountable scandals face this unelectable candidate, which the Republicans can hardly wait to unleash on him after he is nominated.

1. When Obama recently made an issue of the number of houses the McCains own, McCain shot back with much heavier artillery: Obama's friend Rezko is a convicted felon, sitting in jail. Obama is the candidate of Chicago corruption. His other cronies Auchi and Alsammare are also convicted felons who have stolen hundreds of millions from the Iraqi Provisional authority and from the government in Illinois. This has been detailed by investigative journalist Evelyn Pringle on opednews, and by Webster Tarpley in his forthcoming book, "Barack H. Obama: the Unauthorized Biography."

2. Obama has very close links to the convicted Weathermen terrorist bombers Bill Ayres and Bernardine Dohrn. He shared board memberships with Ayres on the Woods Fund and the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. This and most of the following scandals are detailed in Tarpley's "Obama – The Postmodern Coup: Making of a Manchurian Candidate," released in June.

3 Obama is very close to the racist demagogues Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Otis Moss III, Hopkins, Meeks, and Pfleger.

4 Obama has been accused in Federal Court of using crack cocaine by Larry Sinclair, along with gay sex. The Obama camp retaliated by arresting Sinclair in an enemies list operation by Beau Biden, son of veep candidate Joe Biden.

5. The mysterious deaths of black gays in and around Wright's Church: Donald Young, Nate Spencer, Larry Bland could be linked to Obama.

6. Obama's relations to Chechen Terrorism through Ilyas Achmadov.

7. His relations to CIA-controlled Palestinian factions Khalidi and Abu Nimah.

8. The mysterious deaths of key Clinton delegates and floor leaders just before the convention: Bill Gwatney and Tubbs Jones.

9. The alleged Michelle Obama Hate Whitey tape.

10. Then of course there is the problem that Obama is a very weak candidate as regards appeal across the spectrum. In the primaries Obama was not able to carry any of the big Blue states that a Democrat has to win in the electoral college for the general election.

Obama is not able to appeal to the electorate on the issues, only on his personality. His attempt to appear populist fails since he is in fact the puppet of the right-wing Chicago School and revanchist Brzezinski faction. Instead of offering what the great majority of Americans want, peace abroad and fixing the economy at home, he will deliver increased austerity. The war in Georgia shows that the post-9/11 era has now ended with a new cold war against Russia, inspired by Obama's guru Brzezinski.

As Tarpley points out, Obama has never won a real election contest; his way has always been smoothed by engineered scandals.

But this time the scandals are set to go the other way.

The Democrat National Committee has to be certified insane if they nominate Obama. There is no way he can beat "war hero" McCain with a ton of dirty laundry like this around his neck.

And even that pales beside the blamage, the loss of face for the Democrats if they nominate a candidate who is not even a US citizen, thus giving the election by default to the Republicans. That might be the final blow to what is left of the two-party system.



Tarpley's publisher, Progressive Press, is offering a free PDF file of Obama: The Postmodern Coup to all bloggers and book reviewers - especially before the nomination next week! Contact info@progressivepress.com
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That would be a hoot if he couldn't run, and a blessing for America.

Get this commie SOB outa here!
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That would be a hoot if he couldn't run, and a blessing for America.

Get this commie SOB outa here!
Somehow, I fell the hand of a bleach blonde, 60+ year old, wrinkled woman pulling strings, and paying dearly for this little beauty! If so, Good for Hillary! She certainly has 2 balls more then the ARROGANT ONE!
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Hows that socialist liberal program of yours instilled by the creation of a union doing? You know the one? Your state pension?
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Hows that socialist liberal program of yours instilled by the creation of a union doing? You know the one? Your state pension?
It's called an off shoe account and selling into the oil futures market!

Even have my choice of currencies! EURO'S are my current favorite!
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Phil Berg is a Troofer BDS idiot.

He is such a clueless loser at so many things, I can't see how this will turn out well for him.
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More B.S. from the looney in N.Y.

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Barack Obama is, in fact, a natural-born citizen of the United States, for the simple reason that he was born on American soil (in Hawaii, two years after it acquired statehood). The age and citizenship status of Obama's parents have no bearing whatsoever on Obama's citizenship.

Any confusion on this point is the result of misunderstanding the legal concepts of jus sanguinis (right of blood) and jus soli (right of birthplace). Here is how the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service explains the difference:

The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees citizenship at birth to almost all individuals born in the United States or in U.S. jurisdictions, according to the principle of jus soli. Certain individuals born in the United States, such as children of foreign heads of state or children of foreign diplomats, do not obtain U.S. citizenship under jus soli.
Certain individuals born outside of the United States are born citizens because of their parents, according to the principle of jus sanguinis (which holds that the country of citizenship of a child is the same as that of his / her parents).

It is a fact that under the provisions of Article Two of the U.S. Constitution naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of president, but this disqualification does not apply to Barack Obama, who has been a citizen since birth.
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Barack Obama is, in fact, a natural-born citizen of the United States, for the simple reason that he was born on American soil (in Hawaii, two years after it acquired statehood). The age and citizenship status of Obama's parents have no bearing whatsoever on Obama's citizenship.

Any confusion on this point is the result of misunderstanding the legal concepts of jus sanguinis (right of blood) and jus soli (right of birthplace). Here is how the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service explains the difference:

The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees citizenship at birth to almost all individuals born in the United States or in U.S. jurisdictions, according to the principle of jus soli. Certain individuals born in the United States, such as children of foreign heads of state or children of foreign diplomats, do not obtain U.S. citizenship under jus soli.
Certain individuals born outside of the United States are born citizens because of their parents, according to the principle of jus sanguinis (which holds that the country of citizenship of a child is the same as that of his / her parents).

It is a fact that under the provisions of Article Two of the U.S. Constitution naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of president, but this disqualification does not apply to Barack Obama, who has been a citizen since birth.
Apparently, as always with pissant liberals, you don't READ what the complaint is as per the law that was CURRENT at the time!

BTW, where IS his genuine birth certificate, OR a re-issued one from the State of Hawaii? It's been proven that the one shown onn his website was a forgery!
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Barack Obama is, in fact, a natural-born citizen of the United States, for the simple reason that he was born on American soil (in Hawaii, two years after it acquired statehood). The age and citizenship status of Obama's parents have no bearing whatsoever on Obama's citizenship.

Any confusion on this point is the result of misunderstanding the legal concepts of jus sanguinis (right of blood) and jus soli (right of birthplace). Here is how the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service explains the difference:

The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees citizenship at birth to almost all individuals born in the United States or in U.S. jurisdictions, according to the principle of jus soli. Certain individuals born in the United States, such as children of foreign heads of state or children of foreign diplomats, do not obtain U.S. citizenship under jus soli.
Certain individuals born outside of the United States are born citizens because of their parents, according to the principle of jus sanguinis (which holds that the country of citizenship of a child is the same as that of his / her parents).

It is a fact that under the provisions of Article Two of the U.S. Constitution naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of president, but this disqualification does not apply to Barack Obama, who has been a citizen since birth.
Seems more than clear from my laptop, Obama's birthplace and citizenship is being directly called into question. The claim is simply that the claimant positively believes at this time, Barack H. Obama, a candidate for President of the United States of America, is NOT infact a natural born citizen of the USA.

The claim is, he's been made an Indonesian and that country does not allow dual citizenship. With that, if he truly is a citizen of Indonesia, he's NOT a citizen of America too.

The claim also clearly states that it's believed he wasn't born in America, or abroad, to a woman of at least 19yrs age. By American law at the time, that means he apparently cannot be a US citizen based on his mother. As everyone knows, his father was not an American, so there's no question in that regard.

The age question did have a bearing at the time he was born, according to what I was able to find a few months ago, when the question arose. Then, the law required the mother to have lived at least 5yrs in America after he 16th birthday as I recall. Couldn't have happened in his case, as "mom" was only 18(when she still knew everything, no doubt).

If Obama wants to clear up any misconceptions he can SIMPLY provide his real birth certificate. To date, it seems he hasn't deemed it important enough. Of course, with all the other "lack of" issues he faces, that may have slipped his mind... I recently changed jobs. The new employer required me to provide a birth certificate prior to employment... I had to leave their state and go back to the one I was born in so that I could get that certificate... Alas, they got it from me because not only was I born in the USA, but I can prove it... Obama was in Hawaii just last week, no? Why not go get the copy and end all the questions?
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"Seems more than clear from my laptop, Obama's birthplace and citizenship is being directly called into question. The claim is simply that the claimant positively believes at this time, Barack H. Obama, a candidate for President of the United States of America, is NOT infact a natural born citizen of the USA."

LMAO....No its just another "swift boat" attack to throw doubt on the candidate............

Do you really think that Mr. Obama would have been elected to Congress and then nominated as the Democratic candidate if this were true??

If you do, then y'all are dumber than I thought

I can see IEAT falling for this B.S., his brain has been pickled by years of alky abuse....... but the rest of y'all?????????
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"Seems more than clear from my laptop, Obama's birthplace and citizenship is being directly called into question. The claim is simply that the claimant positively believes at this time, Barack H. Obama, a candidate for President of the United States of America, is NOT infact a natural born citizen of the USA."

LMAO....No its just another "swift boat" attack to throw doubt on the candidate............

Do you really think that Mr. Obama would have been elected to Congress and then nominated as the Democratic candidate if this were true??

If you do, then y'all are dumber than I thought

I can see IEAT falling for this B.S., his brain has been pickled by years of alky abuse....... but the rest of y'all?????????
Weester, using your own logic, how did Bush get elected Gov/Pres if he really was a draft dodging/alchoholic/drug using/low intelligent buffoon?
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Weester, using your own logic, how did Bush get elected Gov/Pres if he really was a draft dodging/alchoholic/drug using/low intelligent buffoon?
He was a U.S. Citizen..................ROTFL
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"Seems more than clear from my laptop, Obama's birthplace and citizenship is being directly called into question. The claim is simply that the claimant positively believes at this time, Barack H. Obama, a candidate for President of the United States of America, is NOT infact a natural born citizen of the USA."

LMAO....No its just another "swift boat" attack to throw doubt on the candidate............

Do you really think that Mr. Obama would have been elected to Congress and then nominated as the Democratic candidate if this were true??

If you do, then y'all are dumber than I thought

I can see IEAT falling for this B.S., his brain has been pickled by years of alky abuse....... but the rest of y'all?????????
It's not just another attack. That's the left wingers out for EVERYTHING they don't like. They're always looking to change the subject to attack the messenger, even when it's Clinton, provided they can merely claim the messenger is a Republican supporter, which is easy considering those are only words. And yes, the liberal far left LIES all the time in that manner. What bothers me is that you can see they know the lies rarely go over well, but they refuse to let go ...like a 2nd grader caught talking in class "wasn't me, honest" ... It's getting old quickly.

I think the liberal minded people of Chicagoland would elect a REAL rat if it ran under the "D" symbol! That said, yes I do think Obama could and would be elected Senator even if he's not a citizen.

Let's let OBAMA put this to rest. ALL he has to do is provide the record. It really and truly is that easy. And it flatly CANNOT get any easier. If he can't manage something this utterly simple, I sure can't think of a reason to elect him President. And he need not be present to get the certificate in most states, though I donno about Hawaii. As a matter of public record, it should be out there and easy to get, if he was really born in America.


One more thing about the "swift boat attack" comment... He's ALREADY well in doubt with Americans. Most, not just many, see him as a liar according to poll after poll. And most Americans can't think of a single thing Obama has done which might remotely make him qualified to be President of the USA. For the record, I personally don't think there should be any qualification beyond reaching the age limit and being a natural born (male) citizen. Most can't even tell another citizen what he's ever done in any respect that makes him even notable by any standard beyond "the 1st african-American" to get so far in the process for the office. Most don't even know what he's really ever done for his living. They know he's been handed things, but can't really explain a reason why...

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He was a U.S. Citizen..................ROTFL
And if Bartack isn't, then it makes sense that he won't... It would take literally minutes to get and provide the proof, if it exists. He refuses and folks like you try to cover by saying he has and by saying he shouldn't have to, but he really hasn't and he's REQUIRED TO BY LAW! So he must.

BOTTOM LINE: The law is the law and even Barack Obama has to abide, no matter what he's been handed in the past(and that's alot) and no matter his skin tone/color.

His real citizenship has been called into question. That's a completely legitimate issue. If he's an American, born in a US state, he can easily quell the "rumors" otherwise... If not, too bad for the loser. And that's what he'll be in a New York minute.
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