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Old August 20th, 2008, 12:04 PM
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Corporal Punishment

I'm all in favor of Corporal Punishment, but in the hands of racists and ignorance it becomes a dangerous tool!!!


DALLAS (Reuters) - More than 200,000 children were hit as punishment in U.S. schools last year and in the South more blacks than whites are struck, two human rights groups said in a report released on Wednesday.

Texas accounted for a quarter of the instances of corporal punishment in the 2006-2007 school year, according to the study compiled by Human Rights Watch and the American Civil Liberties Union.

The report, titled "A Violent Education: Corporal Punishment of Children in U.S. Public Schools," plays into a debate in America about the effectiveness of corporal punishment and its role in the classroom and home.

Twenty-one U.S. states still permit the use of corporal punishment in schools. In Texas and Mississippi children as young as 3 are struck for transgressions as minor as gum chewing, the report says.

The punishment often involves hitting a child on the buttocks with a long wooden board, or paddle.

In 13 states in the U.S. South where corporal punishment is the most prevalent, African-American girls are twice as likely to be hit as their white counterparts, according to the 125-page report.

"African-American students are punished at 1.4 times the rate that would be expected given their numbers in the student population," the groups said in a statement.

Citing U.S. Department of Education data, the report said 223,190 students nationwide received corporal punishment at least once in the 2006-2007 school year. This included 49,197 students in Texas, the largest number of any state.

Minority students already face several barriers to success, said Alice Farmer, the report's author.

"By exposing these children to disproportionate rates of corporal punishment, schools create a hostile environment in which these students may struggle even more," Farmer said.

Some U.S. conservatives view moves to ban corporal punishment in school and spanking at home as "liberal permissiveness" which can lead to bad behavior and wider social problems such as juvenile delinquency.

Many liberal groups regard corporal punishment as a barbaric relic of an unenlightened past that harms self-esteem and promotes violence.

"Every public school needs effective methods of discipline but beating kids teaches violence and it doesn't stop bad behavior," Farmer said.

The report documented several cases in which children were seriously injured and said students with physical and mental disabilities were subjected to disproportionate rates of physical punishment.

The report includes witness accounts including one from the mother of a 3-year-old in Texas who was bruised after being struck at school.

"What made me so angry: he's 3 years old, he was petrified. He didn't want to go back to school and he didn't want to start his new school," the mother, referred to as Rose T, was quoted as saying.
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Some U.S. conservatives view moves to ban corporal punishment in school and spanking at home as "liberal permissiveness" which can lead to bad behavior and wider social problems such as juvenile delinquency.
And the proof is in the pudding. Instead, liberals make up silly reasons why this practice should not continue. Racism, indeed. Do us all a favor, Weeper. Go take a walk in your nearest ghetto and report back to us.

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And the proof is in the pudding. Instead, liberals make up silly reasons why this practice should not continue. Racism, indeed. Do us all a favor, Weeper. Go take a walk in your nearest ghetto and report back to us.

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No wonder you live in a swamp........................LOL!

Hey, I'm all for Corporal Punishment but that is only the first step! Parents need to be held accountable for their childrens behavior, maybe then they will get involved in their children's lives.

Y'all keep saying that racism is dead in this country, this article seems to say the opposite!
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No wonder you live in a swamp........................LOL!

Hey, I'm all for Corporal Punishment but that is only the first step! Parents need to be held accountable for their childrens behavior, maybe then they will get involved in their children's lives.

Y'all keep saying that racism is dead in this country, this article seems to say the opposite!
The article was made up by liberals like you. You define racism however you want to define racism. I read nothing in the article that screamed racism at me. The black children were more rowdy than whites? How could that ever happen? In the real world it's true. Just in liberal fantasyland it isn't.

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No wonder you live in a swamp........................LOL!

Hey, I'm all for Corporal Punishment but that is only the first step! Parents need to be held accountable for their childrens behavior, maybe then they will get involved in their children's lives.

Y'all keep saying that racism is dead in this country, this article seems to say the opposite!
You like to think its racism its simple facts. Something like 75% of white kids live with both parents whereas 37% of black kids live with both parents. You say that the parents should be held responsible, but when only 1/3 of black kids have both parents in there lives to watch over them, its only going to cause trouble. That IMO is the main reason for the higher black population in jails and the higher number of black kids punished in this study.

Put things in proper perspective before screaming racism.
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You like to think its racism its simple facts. Something like 75% of white kids live with both parents whereas 37% of black kids live with both parents. You say that the parents should be held responsible, but when only 1/3 of black kids have both parents in there lives to watch over them, its only going to cause trouble. That IMO is the main reason for the higher black population in jails and the higher number of black kids punished in this study.

Put things in proper perspective before screaming racism.
You must understand, Liberals don't need a proper perspective to allege racism. They use the slur freely and then define it to suit their purposes. In fact, the word is a liberal creation. And of course, did you ever notice? Only Whites are racists.
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You must understand, Liberals don't need a proper perspective to allege racism. They use the slur freely and then define it to suit their purposes. In fact, the word is a liberal creation. And of course, did you ever notice? Only Whites are racists.
You are living proof of "white" racism and anti-semetic to boot.....................

There are many "black" racists, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan and others. I calls em as I sees em....
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Avoiding my post? I used your own logic to prove your ideas wrong.
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I'm all in favor of Corporal Punishment, but in the hands of racists and ignorance it becomes a dangerous tool!!!
Just where exactly does it say that the people who are punishing are racists. There are hundreds of non-racist reasons why blacks are punished more than whites.

Yet for some reason you automatically assume that the punishment is racist.
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Who says the teachers doing the striking aren't minorities themselves?

It's the usual garbage reporting that never tells the whole story and is only meant to draw headlines or readers.

You'd have to be stupid to get worked up over anything like this.

WTH is a 3 year old doing in school in the first place?
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You are living proof of "white" racism and anti-semetic to boot.....................

There are many "black" racists, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan and others. I calls em as I sees em....
First of all, let me say, everybody here knows you're an obnoxious idiot. But enough understatement. Tell me, how is it that I'm a racist? Did you find out about my lynching site?

I've been discussing many topics here and all you've managed to do is engage in namecalling in your every post and make some serious allegations you can't back up. Like I said, you're an obnoxious idiot and everybody here, knows it.

As to your anti-semitic charge ... like "racism", that's just another invention of the Jews. It's part of their PC & MC assault on America. Is simple criticism of Jews anti-semitism? In fact, I don't even know if I went so far as to criticize Jews, yet you call me an anti-semite? Not that I care, but goes to your idiocy. Anti-semitism is a type of racism, and both words have been sufficiently abused enough to make their meaning almost worthless without a paragraph or two specifying precisely what you mean. If someone who uses those words goes to that kind of trouble then maybe, just maybe, they're arguing in good faith, so that leaves you out, because you don't know the meaning of "good faith" and you're not capable of much more than a couple sentences laced with racial epithets. So, there you go.
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[quote=BlownZ;1954284]Who says the teachers doing the striking aren't minorities themselves?

It's the usual garbage reporting that never tells the whole story and is only meant to draw headlines or readers.

You'd have to be stupid to get worked up over anything like this.

WTH is a 3 year old doing in school in the first place?[/QUOTE]

Start the indoctrination early.
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"As to your anti-semitic charge ... like "racism", that's just another invention of the Jews. It's part of their PC & MC assault on America. Is simple criticism of Jews anti-semitism? In fact, I don't even know if I went so far as to criticize Jews, yet you call me an anti-semite? Not that I care, but goes to your idiocy. Anti-semitism is a type of racism, and both words have been sufficiently abused enough to make their meaning almost worthless without a paragraph or two specifying precisely what you mean. If someone who uses those words goes to that kind of trouble then maybe, just maybe, they're arguing in good faith, so that leaves you out, because you don't know the meaning of "good faith" and you're not capable of much more than a couple sentences laced with racial epithets. So, there you go."

Invention of the Jews?????

Are you really that ignorant???

Here, I'll make it easy for you:

Antisemitism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Simple Criticism???

Not in your case, doesnt take a rocket scientist to hear the hatred in your words!!
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You like to think its racism its simple facts. Something like 75% of white kids live with both parents whereas 37% of black kids live with both parents. You say that the parents should be held responsible, but when only 1/3 of black kids have both parents in there lives to watch over them, its only going to cause trouble. That IMO is the main reason for the higher black population in jails and the higher number of black kids punished in this study.

Put things in proper perspective before screaming racism.
Not "screaming" racism, just stating an opinion!!! If you notice the study was done in the south where there is a known problem with the color of ones skin!
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"As to your anti-semitic charge ... like "racism", that's just another invention of the Jews. It's part of their PC & MC assault on America. Is simple criticism of Jews anti-semitism? In fact, I don't even know if I went so far as to criticize Jews, yet you call me an anti-semite? Not that I care, but goes to your idiocy. Anti-semitism is a type of racism, and both words have been sufficiently abused enough to make their meaning almost worthless without a paragraph or two specifying precisely what you mean. If someone who uses those words goes to that kind of trouble then maybe, just maybe, they're arguing in good faith, so that leaves you out, because you don't know the meaning of "good faith" and you're not capable of much more than a couple sentences laced with racial epithets. So, there you go."

Invention of the Jews?????

Are you really that ignorant???

Here, I'll make it easy for you:

Antisemitism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Simple Criticism???

Not in your case, doesnt take a rocket scientist to hear the hatred in your words!!
Well, of course, what would a Jew say? Exactly what you've said.

We can all put our faith in your take on it, can't we?

Get real.
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Not "screaming" racism, just stating an opinion!!! If you notice the study was done in the south where there is a known problem with the color of ones skin!
Wee...I can tell you with a straight face...that the problem of racism in the south, isn't any different than it is anywhere in the country.

For you to keep saying it, over and over and over, only makes you look uninformed.

It's your choice.
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Not "screaming" racism, just stating an opinion!!! If you notice the study was done in the south where there is a known problem with the color of ones skin!
Ummm... didn't you post "Y'all keep saying that racism is dead in this country, this article seems to say the opposite!" in your second reply? Looks like that's exactly what you're doing, screaming racism! You don't even read your own posts to have back up information let alone have facts to back up all your other posts.
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