Go Back   TurboBuick.Com > Miscellaneous > Political Views

Political Views Political Topics , World News & Views , Goverment , Fed & State Laws , Our Rights , Religious Views ect...



Welcome to the TurboBuick.Com forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old July 23rd, 2008, 07:42 AM
Gothmog's Avatar
Lieutenant of Morgul
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Piscataway
Trader Rating: (1)
Posts: 6,103
Liberal Media covers for McCain..

McCain Gets History Of The Surge Wrong, CBS Doesn't Air Footage

Tired old man gets facts in Iraq wrong again
Sponsored Links
  #2 (permalink)  
Old July 23rd, 2008, 08:13 AM
UNGN's Avatar
Can't Re- Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Southlake, TX
Trader Rating: (0)
Posts: 8,655
Images: 3
Yawn.

The Anbar awakening would have been crushed if it wasn't for the surge.

The same people that a year ago told us the "Surge has failed" and "Iraq is lost" are now saying that they were "right" somehow, now that the surge has by all measures succeeded.

dumbasses.
  #3 (permalink)  
Old July 23rd, 2008, 09:32 AM
IEATV8S's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Trader Rating: (0)
Posts: 7,702
I'll see your article and RAISE you a few NEW OBOMANATIONS!!!!

You liberals NEVER learn, that your CHIMP, just can't cut it! Talk about MISPEAKING and PUTTING HIS FOOT IN HIS MOUTH!

Obama train wreck. Says reduction of violence due to “ethnic cleansing in Baghdad” (Updated) « The Real Barack Obama

The Messi-Uh Press Conference: "Uh, Uh, Uh, Uh, Uh, Uh, Uh, Uh"

Obama: Israel's a friend of Israel: The Swamp
__________________
  #4 (permalink)  
Old July 23rd, 2008, 06:39 PM
Gothmog's Avatar
Lieutenant of Morgul
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Piscataway
Trader Rating: (1)
Posts: 6,103
Quote:
Originally Posted by UNGN View Post
Yawn.

The Anbar awakening would have been crushed if it wasn't for the surge.

The same people that a year ago told us the "Surge has failed" and "Iraq is lost" are now saying that they were "right" somehow, now that the surge has by all measures succeeded.

dumbasses.
I'm not one of those people, We didnt need a surge of troops to get the Madhi army to stand down, they did that before the surge
We also didnt need a surge of troops to pay all the Sunnis to stop attacking us.
And only idiots or liars say the surge is a success, the surge was supposed to reduce violence so political reconciliation could be attempted.
Violence is down- maybe because of the surge, but no reconciliation has been made
  #5 (permalink)  
Old July 23rd, 2008, 09:25 PM
IEATV8S's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Trader Rating: (0)
Posts: 7,702
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gothmog View Post
I'm not one of those people, We didnt need a surge of troops to get the Madhi army to stand down, they did that before the surge
We also didnt need a surge of troops to pay all the Sunnis to stop attacking us.
And only idiots or liars say the surge is a success, the surge was supposed to reduce violence so political reconciliation could be attempted.
Violence is down- maybe because of the surge, but no reconciliation has been made
And this coming from Mr. "I was at the WTC landfill"!!!!

__________________
  #6 (permalink)  
Old July 23rd, 2008, 09:27 PM
UNGN's Avatar
Can't Re- Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Southlake, TX
Trader Rating: (0)
Posts: 8,655
Images: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gothmog View Post
I'm not one of those people, We didnt need a surge of troops to get the Madhi army to stand down, they did that before the surge
We also didnt need a surge of troops to pay all the Sunnis to stop attacking us.
And only idiots or liars say the surge is a success, the surge was supposed to reduce violence so political reconciliation could be attempted.
Violence is down- maybe because of the surge, but no reconciliation has been made
The Madhi Army wasn't causing the Violence and killing most Americans in Iraq. My nephew was an Army sniper and he said the Mahdi army was like shooting fish in a barrel. Al Queda in Iraq was causing the violence and killing most of the Americans.

Violence is down in Iraq because the majorities of Sunni no longer welcome Al Queda in Iraq and are actively working with the Americans to wipe out Al Queda in Iraq, which was the point of the Surge from the beginning, no matter how Liberal politicians try to spin it.

Reconciliation couldn't come until the violence stopped. The Violence has almost stopped, because of the surge, that every major Democrat said failed a year ago, before it started.

A year from now, when political reconciliations are made, are you going to say that those don't count either, because they didn't happen on the official Liberal American Political timetable.

Liberals like to say bush is bad because he won't "admit when he is wrong". WTF has Barrack Obama OR ANY LIBERAL EVER admitted he was wrong about?
  #7 (permalink)  
Old July 24th, 2008, 07:22 AM
Gothmog's Avatar
Lieutenant of Morgul
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Piscataway
Trader Rating: (1)
Posts: 6,103
Quote:
Originally Posted by UNGN View Post
The Madhi Army wasn't causing the Violence and killing most Americans in Iraq. My nephew was an Army sniper and he said the Mahdi army was like shooting fish in a barrel. Al Queda in Iraq was causing the violence and killing most of the Americans.

Violence is down in Iraq because the majorities of Sunni no longer welcome Al Queda in Iraq and are actively working with the Americans to wipe out Al Queda in Iraq, which was the point of the Surge from the beginning, no matter how Liberal politicians try to spin it.

Reconciliation couldn't come until the violence stopped. The Violence has almost stopped, because of the surge, that every major Democrat said failed a year ago, before it started.

A year from now, when political reconciliations are made, are you going to say that those don't count either, because they didn't happen on the official Liberal American Political timetable.

Liberals like to say bush is bad because he won't "admit when he is wrong". WTF has Barrack Obama OR ANY LIBERAL EVER admitted he was wrong about?
SO the alqueda in Iraq was the cause of killing all the Americans. A group of no more than 1500 guys defeated the most powerful army in the world?

The Madhi army may be pathetic is someones opinion, but they kicked the Iraqi army's ass pretty badly this spring. So what does that say about them?

A year from now political reconciliation? It was supposed to be done already. that was the point of the surge.

Here is my predictions for a year from now.
1. The kurds will still control the north- they wont share oil revenue
2. The warlords will still control the south
3. The Sunni will still be a guerrilla force
4. The Madhi army will still be around
5. The iraqi army and govt will still be weak and ineffective
  #8 (permalink)  
Old July 24th, 2008, 10:33 AM
salvageV6's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Connecticut
Trader Rating: (1)
Posts: 12,206
Lightbulb

The liberal media has devoted whole shows to covering up the Obaminations huge political gaffs.

Keith Olbermann's show for one, about one day a week he has to go on the air to clarify what Obamarama meant to say.

Stupid young man doesn't know when to shut up.
  #9 (permalink)  
Old July 24th, 2008, 12:26 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Goldsby, OK
Trader Rating: (0)
Posts: 2,434
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gothmog View Post
SO the alqueda in Iraq was the cause of killing all the Americans. A group of no more than 1500 guys defeated the most powerful army in the world?

The Madhi army may be pathetic is someones opinion, but they kicked the Iraqi army's ass pretty badly this spring. So what does that say about them?

A year from now political reconciliation? It was supposed to be done already. that was the point of the surge.

Here is my predictions for a year from now.
1. The kurds will still control the north- they wont share oil revenue
2. The warlords will still control the south
3. The Sunni will still be a guerrilla force
4. The Madhi army will still be around
5. The iraqi army and govt will still be weak and ineffective
probably pretty accurate. even if there is a reconciliation, it won't last long... there are too many factions that hate each other too much for that country to stay together as a unit. i don't know why we're so concerned with unifying that country as one nation anyway... the nation of Iraq is the product of arrogant, ignorant imperialism. the turks just drew an arbitrary border around a bunch of people who have nothing in common and made it a province, and then when Britain took over, they kept it that way. Now without a big bad empire or iron-fisted dictator to keep it together, things are taking their natural course and the factions are splitting apart with their respective territory. why are we trying to fight the inevitable? and why do we think it makes our country safer to have our troops fighting for such a thing? I know it sucks that so many of our men died over there, but we need to forget the sunk costs and make the best of our present situation by getting the hell out of that godforsaken place.
__________________
White '87 Regal T-Type (column shift, astro roof) -- TE-44, 3" DP/cutout, walbro 240/hotwire, 65 lb. mototrons, commander chip. PSIC, orange stripe converter, and E85 coming soon!

'98 Regal GS

'91 Thunderbird SC (5-speed) -- FOR SALE

'03 Cavalier (5-speed)

Looking for: piping/couplers/t-bolt clamps for my Powerstroke IC
  #10 (permalink)  
Old July 24th, 2008, 12:33 PM
UNGN's Avatar
Can't Re- Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Southlake, TX
Trader Rating: (0)
Posts: 8,655
Images: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gothmog View Post
SO the alqueda in Iraq was the cause of killing all the Americans. A group of no more than 1500 guys defeated the most powerful army in the world?
What do mean "defeated". Al Queda in Iraq got their asses handed to them.



Yes, if Obama had his way AQI would have "defeated" the most powerful army in the World, because we would have pulled out before finishing the ass handing.

oh and only 19 AQ killed 3000 Americans, or did you forget.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gothmog View Post
The Madhi army may be pathetic is someones opinion, but they kicked the Iraqi army's ass pretty badly this spring. So what does that say about them?
Please name one battle the Madhi Army won. They were always bullet fodder. Outside of Sadr city the odds of anyone being killed by the Mahdi army is about zero.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gothmog View Post
A year from now political reconciliation? It was supposed to be done already. that was the point of the surge.

Here is my predictions for a year from now.
1. The kurds will still control the north- they wont share oil revenue
2. The warlords will still control the south
3. The Sunni will still be a guerrilla force
4. The Madhi army will still be around
5. The iraqi army and govt will still be weak and ineffective
How long was it Japan and Germany had "politcal reconcililliation" after WWII?

When did we leave there? oh, that's right, we didn't.

It really doesn't matter what your predictions are, like any good Liberal, if you are proven wrong, you will say you were right anyway and bring up five other things to prove that you may have not been 100% about your 5 predictions, but these 5 other things....
  #11 (permalink)  
Old July 24th, 2008, 12:56 PM
Gothmog's Avatar
Lieutenant of Morgul
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Piscataway
Trader Rating: (1)
Posts: 6,103
Quote:
Originally Posted by UNGN View Post
What do mean "defeated". Al Queda in Iraq got their asses handed to them.

....
Dont say that out loud!

If you say the terrorists are defeated, we have no excuse to stay there!

Thats the whole point, there were only 1500 alqueda in iraq, the rest are patriots trying to kick out an occupying army and sieze control of the govt
  #12 (permalink)  
Old July 24th, 2008, 01:05 PM
UNGN's Avatar
Can't Re- Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Southlake, TX
Trader Rating: (0)
Posts: 8,655
Images: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gothmog View Post
Dont say that out loud!

If you say the terrorists are defeated, we have no excuse to stay there!

Thats the whole point, there were only 1500 alqueda in iraq, the rest are patriots trying to kick out an occupying army and sieze control of the govt
I didn't say the terrorists were defeated, you said they defeated the Americans and I corrected you.

There are still AQ in Iraq and if we pull out now, there will be more after we leave then there are presently.

Those that want to spread Jihad out side of Iraq aren't "patriots", which is why the vast majority of Iraqui sunnis are on our side, now, and violence is dow 500% from a year ago.
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:53 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
One of the largest message boards on the web !