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Old July 13th, 2008, 06:16 PM
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The OFFICIAL OMG NObama F'd UP AGAIN DAILY THREAD!

There is just so much to post, I thought just a daily update would suffice. This info is fo you NObama members to use as you see fit, especially if on other websites and need a little BACK UP to your opinions!

July 13th

Obama camp on defensive after salty Bernie Mac riff -- chicagotribune.com

Obama to Mac: Clean it up :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Barack Obama

Newsvine - Angry At Obama? How Hillary Clinton Could Still Be The Democratic Nominee

Progressive Politics Examiner - Examiner.com

The Political Scene: Making It: Reporting & Essays: The New Yorker

blackagendareport.com - Freedom Rider - Obama's Iraq Fairy Tale

blackagendareport.com - ‘Progressives for Obama’ Fool Themselves

Sunday Herald: International: International

Jesse Jackson Has a Point

CQ Politics | Clinton Diehards Want Convention Vote

Obama backers on the left are doing the wincing now -- chicagotribune.com

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Divided They Fall - TIME

Will the real Obama please stand?

American Thinker Blog: Is Obama pulling 'The Big Fade?'

Political Punch

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Michelle Contradicts Barack’s Biography : NO QUARTER

The Left Coaster: What Was Really Behind The Appeal?

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Beware the Obama Endorsements! by Soozan S. — politics, news, random musings | Gather

Barack Obama’s 20 years of Public Servic by Scott Rogers

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Cover of the July 21st New Yorker, their catching on.
LOL!!!!!

On one of the Pro Hillary sites they've named the cover

The MILITANT MICHELLE and the MUSLIM Cover!
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How anybody can watch those video's and VOTE FOR OBAMA is beyond me

McCain is not the best choice either but I rather have Libertarian candidate over Obama.....

You can knock Bush all you want. Bush has his terms over and will live out a nice life as an ex-pres like it or not. But, do you really want this inexperienced, can't stand behind anything, that uses anybody or anything to get to the next step man as our PRESIDENT?
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How anybody can watch those video's and VOTE FOR OBAMA is beyond me
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Its the source.
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Its the source.
Now, you couldn't be refering to me could you "Mr. I WAS AT THE WTC LANDFILL LIAR"

Second edition will be out tonight! You just can't believe what these "I WANT HILLARY" Democrats are finding about B.O.SCO!
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yeah, you IEAT

You're the source that we dont believe
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yeah, you IEAT

You're the source that we dont believe
Gee "Mr. I was at the WTC LANDFILL", you could always use your RESEARCH TOOLS to find out! But that wouldn't fit into your agenda!

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Isnt this getting ridiculous calling people who you disagree with liars.

How would you feel if I said you hate America?
You would say that you dont.

then I would reply that you are a liar, and post every thread that IEATv8 is a proven liar!


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Now coming from you, that is absolutely the funniest thing I have every seen posted on this site, stop Goth, I'm laughing so hard your making my sides hurt.

Hello pot, It's kettle.

Oh my God is that funny.
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Gothy just who is the "WE"?

You, the Quirksters, the lying Weakster, and the Muslims?

OH THE SHAME!!!!
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Isnt this getting ridiculous calling people who you disagree with liars.

How would you feel if I said you hate America?
You would say that you dont.

then I would reply that you are a liar, and post every thread that IEATv8 is a proven liar!


You gotta relax
Goth, most of what you spew is easily checked, and 99% of the time, you LIE about it, posting whatever you want to or somehow, in your mind, you justify your postings as being correct. How many times do we on the right jump on you! You exaggerate everything you put out, you blame Bush for everything, you NEVER admit your wrong when you are, and this last FAIRY TALE of you working the Staten Island landfill on 9/15 is just TOO MUCH to let go! I heven't let go of Weepsters Navy Seal exploit, when he starts getting carried away with his self importance, and I'm not giving you any slack on this!

I told you, either show PROOF or TELL THE TRUTH that you lied! It's that easy. NO ONE got into that landfill, without some sort of authorization to let them in! PERIOD!!!! I've now checked with my son in law and he's told me, UNLESS YOU WERE IN UNIFORM AND SHOWED YOUR POLICE ID CARD, An FBI AGENT, OR SANITATION BRINGING IN DEBRIS, YOU DID NOT GET IN!!!! NO IFS, ANDS, OR BUTS!!!!! IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST SECURE PLACES ON EARTH AT THE TIME! BTW, HE SAID THERE WERE "NO" CIVILIAN VOLUNTEERS AT THAT SITE!!!!!! IT WAS ALWAYS MANNED BY UNIFORMED POLICE, FIRE, or FBI AS THIS WAS WHERE 333 Firemans, and 39 POLICE OFFICERS BODY PARTS WERE, AND THIS MEANT EVERYTHING SACRED TO THESE MEN!!!

Now, I don't care what you tell me, UNLESS you have a written letter on Police or NYC letterhead, and SIGNED by someone I can find out had the POWER to authorize you, YOU ARE A LIAR IN MY BOOK FOR NOW AND FOREVER!!!!! You're a moderator here, do a fairly good job, but when you PUSH the truth to this extent, there is SOMETHING WRONG with you!

I'm not mad at you, it's just you and other LEFTY'S just have trouble with the truth, have a spewed outlook on life and have a complete lack of common sense! I've said it many times here, you and your ILK are......

PATHETIC!!!!!!!!

OH, BTW do you remember this at the ENTRANCE to the debris field?



OH ANOTHER piece of INFORMATION FROM NPR!

NPR : Sorting WTC Debris at Fresh Kills Landfill

AND THIS ONE SHOULD PUT YOUR LIES TO BED!

Staten Island recovery site material
Description: This rake, pitchfork, detective’s windbreaker, and sign were used at the Staten Island recovery site, also known as Fresh Kills Landfill.

Context: To facilitate the search and clean-up of the World Trade Center collapse, the 1.45 million tons of debris were sent to Fresh Kills, an old landfill on Staten Island. Using rakes, sifting tables, and heavy equipment, workers spread out the debris and meticulously examined it for even the smallest pieces of evidence. The site was staffed by members of the FBI, FDNY, NYPD, and other government agencies. In all, 54,000 personal objects were recovered and 1,200 victims identified.

AND THE COMPLETE ARTICLE WITH PICTURES!!!!

Staten Island recovery site material - September 11: Bearing Witness to History
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Goth, I understand what you mean. I am just taking in account the political expediency Obama uses almost daily. There is not much left he hasn't shifted on. He is a young politician with no experience, that is the only thing I have seen for sure!
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Now coming from you, that is absolutely the funniest thing I have every seen posted on this site, stop Goth, I'm laughing so hard your making my sides hurt.

Hello pot, It's kettle.

Oh my God is that funny.
The problem is that we all have different political positions, but when IEATV8 decides that his position and your differ, you are called a liar
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Please deliver this message to your son in law,

To IEATv8s son in law,

YOU ARE DEAD F'IN WRONG ABOUT YOUR STUPID ASSERTIONS. Keep your stupid opinions about what YOU HEARD was going on ON MY ISLAND to yourself! It is true you may have heard what the policy was, but dont assume that you know what happened. YOU WERENT THERE, I WAS

So go back to sleep and stop being such a knowitall cop.

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" The problem is that we all have different political positions, but when IEATV8 decides that his position and your differ, you are called a liar "

Just like the title Moderator should be earned, o wait you didn't earn yours that's a bad example.......

Well once you are a PROVEN liar you just are one for life.

It's a badge you can't get rid of easily, just ask Weakster, he's okay with it though, and it's a big part of his daily lefty lifestyle.

When you get your lying lefty "opinions" in the way of the TRUTH you tend to get steamrolled often in a real political discussion.

I guess we can simply say your version of "reality" is a bit skewed.
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Please deliver this message to your son in law,

To IEATv8s son in law,

YOU ARE DEAD F'IN WRONG ABOUT YOUR STUPID ASSERTIONS. Keep your stupid opinions about what YOU HEARD was going on ON MY ISLAND to yourself! It is true you may have heard what the policy was, but dont assume that you know what happened. YOU WERENT THERE, I WAS

So go back to sleep and stop being such a knowitall cop.

Thanks
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Dave, PROVE ME WRONG! I put out the article from the SMITHSONIAN with all the details STATING ONLY AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL WERE ALLOWED INTO THE LANDFILL! What don't YOU understand about that, and IF you were correct, why wouldn't they say that CIVILIAN VOLUNTEERS were allowed?

YOU ARE STILL LYING ABOUT BEING AND HELPING AT THE LANDFILL ON 9/15 AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, A DRAWING ISN'T PROOF, AND CERTAINLY NOT YOUR WORD!!!!
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Dave, PROVE ME WRONG! I put out the article from the SMITHSONIAN with all the details STATING ONLY AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL WERE ALLOWED INTO THE LANDFILL! What don't YOU understand about that, and IF you were correct, why wouldn't they say that CIVILIAN VOLUNTEERS were allowed?

YOU ARE STILL LYING ABOUT BEING AND HELPING AT THE LANDFILL ON 9/15 AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, A DRAWING ISN'T PROOF, AND CERTAINLY NOT YOUR WORD!!!!
why would I make it up? Just to screw with you?
No.
Our small group wasnt off the street, we were escorted by off duty police detectives.duh
and your son in law? he wasnt there, you know how I know, cause there were NO uniformed cops there, and no off duty cops there either. Everyone there was in a Tyvek suit and identified with marker on the back- NO COPS. so your son in law is a liar giving you heresay stories of what went on over there
and any article that says authorized personal with badges only...this was only days after it happened- please forgive the govt for not having time to make badges on such short notice- jeez.
I know the dump inside and out, I know exactly where we were, I could point it out on a map, I could tell you everything the FBI guy told us in our orientation, I could tell you EXACTLY where the everything was.
I think you just cant stand the fact that I know something you dont.
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why would I make it up? Just to screw with you?
No.
Our small group wasnt off the street, we were escorted by off duty police detectives.duh
and your son in law? he wasnt there, you know how I know, cause there were NO uniformed cops there, and no off duty cops there either. Everyone there was in a Tyvek suit and identified with marker on the back- NO COPS. so your son in law is a liar giving you heresay stories of what went on over there
and any article that says authorized personal with badges only...this was only days after it happened- please forgive the govt for not having time to make badges on such short notice- jeez.
I know the dump inside and out, I know exactly where we were, I could point it out on a map, I could tell you everything the FBI guy told us in our orientation, I could tell you EXACTLY where the everything was.
I think you just cant stand the fact that I know something you dont.
It still doesn't FLY, no matter how you protest! When the Smithsonian, which has now had 7 years to do all the homework on the event, says there were NO civilians at the landfill, and only authoried government representatives had access to the debris, how do I believe you?

My son-in law was at the WTC site, most of the time, but had men from his precint that were sent OR VOLUNTEERED to go to search the landfill. NO ONE but those gov't employees were allowed, it was a matter of security and because on the second day of searching the WTC site, the police came up with a civilian volunteer that was in a watch store in the WTC and picking watches out for himself! That arrest started the big security push! Do you remember that?
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Our small group wasnt off the street, we were escorted by off duty police detectives.duh
and your son in law? he wasnt there, you know how I know, cause there were NO uniformed cops there, and no off duty cops there either.
I am a little confused about the statement, there was no off duty cops or you were escorted by off duty cops? Possibly some clarification?
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INTERESTING DATA JUST RECEIVED ON TAXES


This is something you should be aware of so you don't get
blind-sided. This is really going to catch a lot of families off
guard. It should make you worry.


Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:


CAPITAL GAINS TAX


MCCAIN


0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples) McCain does not
propose any change in existing home sales income tax.


OBAMA


28% on profit from ALL home sales


How does this affect you?


If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your
gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like
to
down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of
the
money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will
adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from
their homes as part of their retirement income.


DIVIDEND TAX


MCCAIN 15% (no change)


OBAMA 39.6%


How will this affect you?


If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds,
college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything
that
pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of
the
money earned in taxes if Obama become president.


The experts predict that 'higher tax rates on dividends and
capital
gains would crash the stock market yet do absolutely nothing to
cut
the deficit.


INCOME TAX


MCCAIN (no changes)


Single making 30K - tax $4,500 Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single
making 75K - tax $18,750 Married making 60K- tax $9,000 Married
making 75K - tax $18,750 Married making 125K - tax $31,250


OBAMA


(reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts) Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000 Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800 Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750


Under Obama your taxes will more than double! How does this affect
you? No explanation needed. This is pretty straight forward.


INHERITANCE TAX


MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)


OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax


How does this affect you? Many families have lost businesses,
farms
and ranches, and homes that have been in their families for
generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax.
Those
willing their assets to loved ones will not only lose them to
these
taxes.


NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA


* New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400
square feet


* New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already)


* New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water,
electricity)


* New taxes on retirement accounts and last but not least....


* New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the
same
level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!


Does this make you 'feel good' ?? Inspired ?? Is this the change
you
are/we are looking for ??
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it seems McCain and Obama offer us the same 2 policy options the Dems and Reps gave us over the past decade: either raise taxes and increase the size of government, or lower taxes while still increasing the size of government quite a bit. Either one will end up bankrupting our country even worse than it already is. nobody, at least nobody in washington, ever seems to bring up the option of reducing the size of government.
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it seems McCain and Obama offer us the same 2 policy options the Dems and Reps gave us over the past decade: either raise taxes and increase the size of government, or lower taxes while still increasing the size of government quite a bit. Either one will end up bankrupting our country even worse than it already is. nobody, at least nobody in washington, ever seems to bring up the option of reducing the size of government.
Now I can see where NObama would be increasing the size of gov't by having Gov't healthcare, probably increaseng the gov't work force by 25-50,000 workers. I don't see this with McLame, as he is not for gov't healthcare, care to enlighten us on where these supposed increases are coming from, on either side! Since McLame has stated and has shown he will NOT support earmarks, and has never had one in over 20 years in the Senate, I would tend to take him at his word on this. Bookmarks have cost us over 2 TRILLION dollars in the last 10 years, wouldn't that have made a nice dent in the budget deficit?
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8's, I think you are underestimating it. B.Hussein's medical catastrophe would create somewhere in the area of 250K new goverment jobs and spin off in the range of 2-4 completely new agencies requiring an equivilant amount of jobs.

I know how much you like him and all but don't give him too much credit

I would hope McCain would make reducing the size and waste of the goverment one of his top priorities. I believe he should be focusing on that and a comprehensive energy plan and doing it loudly.

Hensch, I can see where this is a lesser of two evils situations for libertarians, but don't forget who has spent a lifetime of service and unwaivering dedication, even in the worst situations, for his country. There is one candidate who your vote will count greatly for and you can trust to at the very least exercise wisdom and judgement in executive decisions.
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Yes, they do but BLOWN Z gets mad at me, and I just annoy the chit out of Qwirk! Feel free to post any you think deserves it!

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Serioulsy, it has become impossible to keep up with all his flip flops and f'ups.

Credibility = ZERO

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Serioulsy, it has become impossible to keep up with all his flip flops and f'ups.

Credibility = ZERO

Of course Z might be right, why try to kill a man who is hell bent on committing suicide?
I REALLY CAN'T POST IT ALL, MY FINGERS GET TIRED!
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