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Old July 2nd, 2008, 07:01 PM
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Quik and Goth answer the questions.

You both know what questions we are waiting to have you answer. Quit ducking them and answer the two questions posed to you.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 07:10 PM
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You both know what questions we are waiting to have you answer. Quit ducking them and answer the two questions posed to you.
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The questions posed by Turbo RX and myself in the Just Wondering.
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Breaching vs. topping......are you kidding? okay, if the levees get topped, the city will flood and people will die, but if the levees are breached, it will be much different, the city will flood and people will die.

Lets say they never talked about levees and just told Bush a catergory 5 hurricane was going to hit New Orleans... he still should have been prepared



#2 the situation where Bush freezed under pressure in the classroom shows that he is NOT a leader, he is a frightened child will low sellf esteem, that bullys people and creates wars for his own self glorification.

but the Bush freezing raises many other issues, like
why wasnt he concerned?
Why was he not curious as to what happened.
Why did the secret service not wisk him away when Card said "we are under attack" the presidents schedule was public knowledge..he could be a target.
Did he know something we didnt, and thats why he wasnt concerned about further attacks, or fear for his own safety
If we are under attack, why does the commander of the greatest military in the world not assuming command? he's just sitting there...
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 07:36 PM
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Breaching vs. topping......are you kidding? okay, if the levees get topped, the city will flood and people will die, but if the levees are breached, it will be much different, the city will flood and people will die.

Lets say they never talked about levees and just told Bush a catergory 5 hurricane was going to hit New Orleans... he still should have been prepared



#2 the situation where Bush freezed under pressure in the classroom shows that he is NOT a leader, he is a frightened child will low sellf esteem, that bullys people and creates wars for his own self glorification.

but the Bush freezing raises many other issues, like
why wasnt he concerned?
Why was he not curious as to what happened.
Why did the secret service not wisk him away when Card said "we are under attack" the presidents schedule was public knowledge..he could be a target.
Did he know something we didnt, and thats why he wasnt concerned about further attacks, or fear for his own safety
If we are under attack, why does the commander of the greatest military in the world not assuming command? he's just sitting there...
Wow !!! I can't believe it took you four days and these are the answers you give. I expected more from you. (not quik, just a poster)

1. Once again you know better. Levees being topped would not have allowed nearly the flooding and more than likely no one would have died. Levees being breached allows massive amounts of water in, water will seek to level out which means the water in the city would be the same level outside of the city. There is a huge difference and you know it !!!!

2. The President did not freeze. You know this also. He demonstrated composure, he concluded his meeting with the children instead of running away and scaring the entire nation. That shows courage. (I know, thats a bad thing in the liberal mindset) Watch the video you like to use to condemn the President. This time watch it without the I hate Bush blinders. The President was concerned. The secret service advised him. He did what any good leader would do. He trusted his military and civilian advisors and allowed them to do their job.

I won't even touch the did he know something we didn't comment. That is completely rediculous and you should be embarrassed for bringing that up.
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#2 the situation where Bush freezed under pressure in the classroom shows that he is NOT a leader, he is a frightened child will low sellf esteem, that bullys people and creates wars for his own self glorification.

but the Bush freezing raises many other issues, like
why wasnt he concerned?
Why was he not curious as to what happened.
Why did the secret service not wisk him away when Card said "we are under attack" the presidents schedule was public knowledge..he could be a target.
Did he know something we didnt, and thats why he wasnt concerned about further attacks, or fear for his own safety
If we are under attack, why does the commander of the greatest military in the world not assuming command? he's just sitting there...
Goth, when YOU are president, with all the responsibilities he has, the speeches, the statements, the days completely filled with work, and NO PLAY, the all consuming pretense to protect the country, the intelligence, the military, and all the other things that we haven't a clue what that man went through, and you can say that you remember every little incident, you remember WHEN ONE DAYS difference, could make or break a conspiracy theory, then I'll go along with you.

Being the same age as the president, I remember exactly where I was and what I saw that moment, on that morning, but tell you what, what were the first words you said to your wife? EXACTLY! What was your first meal after you saw and heard of those events, what RESPONSIBILITIES did YOU have, compared to the president of the U.S. that was dramatically wisked away onto Air Force 1 because the Secret Srevice didn't know if there were 4 flights, or 400 flights going to hit your country!

Your the man, EVERYONE in the WORLD is calling YOU for information and leadership at this point, you have NO ANSWERS and are trying to get some. How much more is expected, how many presumed dead in N.Y., in Washington, in PA? Where's the next hit going to be? Any Bio weapons exposed, any Nuclear threats on any flights, Radio reports of other planes MISSING!!!! What does THAT mean?

So give the man and his position a little thought, just a little, when it comes to him, not exactly remembering if he SAW the first crash live, or the next`day, when he saw it on tape! Could he have thought the replay of the second hit, that I saw LIVE happening an hour later, could have been the FIRST hit? Think he may have had a few other pressing things on his mind that possibly a MINOR detail like that could have happened?

I forget **** all the time, and the wife has to remind me, some of it fairly important. When you get to be 55+ your not as sharp as you were at 30, or 40, or even 50! You think when a secret service man whispers in your ear that a SECOND strike just happened, you just MIGHT sit there for a minute, going over **** in your mind that you must do, that has to be done, where are my kids and wife, what will happen to the world because of this, could this be WW III starting and NO ONE has a clue where or what has really happened yet? Do you immediately call for marshall law? Do you call every state governor and have them activate their National Guard, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., until you HOPE your mind quickly garnered what to do first, as NOTHING like this has ever happened before!

All you folks take a minute, just one minute, put it on your watch, you are already prepared for the scenario, now time yourselves and try to keep count of the things, you as president in that first minute would have to ask yourself, or go through your mind, as quickly as you can. After that minute, see what would still have to be done, and see if you remember EVERY detail of what you just thought about!

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Why thank You Z! That's what my job is! To annoy the **** out of all those damn Liberals!!!

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I have been wrong many times on this board. IEATV8's has schooled me multiple times.
Thank you, I will take credit for SCHOOLING some that are willing to admit they are WRONG!

Barack Obama has failed to honor yet another promise he made today, his reversal of his promise to participate in the public finance system undermines his call for a new type of politics.
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Relax, libs exist in a working-class mentality. They have no concept of managing a business (or a country) top down; all they know is what they are told to do and they believe all orders come straight from the top directly to them. How untrue. Execs manage uppers, uppers manage middles, middles manage lowers, lowers manage workers. The execs are ultimately responsible but they do not have the capacity to micro-manage and that is what libs want most to maintain order in their lives. The President sets the goals, everyone else carries it out but sometimes not so well.

Imagine yourself with 300,000,000 employees and trying to get them all working toward the same goal. That is what libs expect from Bush and they chide him for every mistake made in this country.
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Your posts are a testament to that!



I haven't started with you in a long time..............
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I think you have just about annoyed everyone with the 42 Obama posts a day. It's impossible to get any conversation going because before a thread gets to develop, there are 24 more just like it.

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Why thank You Z! That's what my job is! To annoy the **** out of all those damn Liberals!!!

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Barack Obama has failed to honor yet another promise he made today, his reversal of his promise to participate in the public finance system undermines his call for a new type of politics.
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Goth,

I think question 1 has been addressed. Do you see the difference? Do you now understand that words mean things?

Question 2 you failed to answer again. The question is, Since you know so much, what would you have done. You took the opportunity to attack the President once again. Now, please, enlighten us, what would you have done. You have the benefit of hindsight and five days now to frame your answer. We are still waiting.
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 07:29 AM
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Goth,

I think question 1 has been addressed. Do you see the difference? Do you now understand that words mean things?

Question 2 you failed to answer again. The question is, Since you know so much, what would you have done. You took the opportunity to attack the President once again. Now, please, enlighten us, what would you have done. You have the benefit of hindsight and five days now to frame your answer. We are still waiting.
-"Mr. Gothmog, the country is under attack"

Me- "sorry kids I'm going to have to cut my visit short, I have some work to do, thanks for having me"
then I would have got out of that classroom and asked a million questions
Like:
Under attack from who?
What are the other targets?
Where are our vulnerablities?
How are we mobilizing our counter attack?
Is this a coodinated attack, what else is going on in the world?
How are we mobilizing rescue efforts?
Is my cabinet being assembled, I want their input?
etc

or I could just sit on my ass and look bewildered

Bush is indefensible in his actions
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-"Mr. Gothmog, the country is under attack"

Me- "sorry kids I'm going to have to cut my visit short, I have some work to do, thanks for having me"
then I would have got out of that classroom and asked a million questions
Like:
Under attack from who?
What are the other targets?
Where are our vulnerablities?
How are we mobilizing our counter attack?
Is this a coodinated attack, what else is going on in the world?
How are we mobilizing rescue efforts?
Is my cabinet being assembled, I want their input?
etc

or I could just sit on my ass and look bewildered

Bush is indefensible in his actions

NICE.... SLAM DUNK!!!


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-"Mr. Gothmog, the country is under attack"

Me- "sorry kids I'm going to have to cut my visit short, I have some work to do, thanks for having me"
then I would have got out of that classroom and asked a million questions
Like:
Under attack from who?
What are the other targets?
Where are our vulnerablities?
How are we mobilizing our counter attack?
Is this a coodinated attack, what else is going on in the world?
How are we mobilizing rescue efforts?
Is my cabinet being assembled, I want their input?
etc

or I could just sit on my ass and look bewildered

Bush is indefensible in his actions
OR......

You could have displayed a calm nature, trusted your key personal to do their job, addressing all those questions you would have asked. That way no one would panic.

I certainly do not agree with your management style but at least you did answer the question.
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Thank you for for intelligent and insightful reply. I expected nothing less from you.
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