Offshore drilling facts

[nero]

Offshore Drilling Comes Up Empty | OurFuture.org

Check it out, unlike the crap posted here, each one of his claims are linked to real support for his stance.

Enjoy.

[UNGN]

It won't raise the price of gasoline, will it?

I have a well going in under my house. I really don't give a **** if a well is going in 50 miles from the nearest human.

If you are happy with $4 or next $8 gas then don't let them drill under your house. Otherwise STFU and go away.

[SGRIM]

Originally Posted by UNGN

It won't raise the price of gasoline, will it?

I have a well going in under my house. I really don't give a **** if a well is going in 50 miles from the nearest human.

If you are happy with $4 or next $8 gas then don't let them drill under your house. Otherwise STFU and go away.

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[nero]

Originally Posted by UNGN

It won't raise the price of gasoline, will it?

I have a well going in under my house. I really don't give a **** if a well is going in 50 miles from the nearest human.

If you are happy with $4 or next $8 gas then don't let them drill under your house. Otherwise STFU and go away.

Wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Did you even bother to read the article supported by facts from scientists and the DOE?

Surely you don't kiss your mother with that mouth.

[nero]

Originally Posted by sgrim

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[V8Assassin]

Nero,
What do you actually know about drilling for oil? When was the last time you visited or worked on a rig?

I only ask because if your only defense against increased domestic production is "there isn't enough" then go back and rethink your entire position. The fact is this, there is oil there and we will go after it either now or sometime in the future. That's right, it's there, we know it's there, we know we can get to it and with today's technology we can limit the impact on the enviroment to almost nothing.

As usual a bunch of Arm Chair Enviromentalist want to stand in the way, and this time it's even worse cause now no matter how bad we need to or how much sense it makes, it is the idea of the Republicans so the dems will try to block it anyway they can just because they didn't decide to do it first. Also, because they are beholden to these Arm Chair Enviromentalist.

We are going to drill in Alaska, hell the citizens of Alaska are begging us too, we are going to drill the shales in the western states (which by the way we are already drilling shales all across the country, the barnett in TX, the conastaga in AL, the haynesville in LA, the marine in MS/LA), and we are going to drill off the coast. BTW before you start telling me what I know about these fields you should know I have worked in every one of them and am currently working in a couple I haven't named.

My best friend and business partner is currently drilling a 14 well pad in the middle of Arlington, TX. Drilling technology has progressed to the point where we can drill almost anywhere and with the right procedures, limit the impact to the point where it is safe enough to do directly in the middle of heavily populated areas. Much less 50 miles off the coast or in the wilderness of Alaska, but hey don't listen to me listen to the citizens of Alaska.

BTW if you are so "Progressive", as you have stated in other threads, Why are you so hell bent on standing in the way of Progress?

[nero]

Originally Posted by V8Assassin

Nero,
What do you actually know about drilling for oil? When was the last time you visited or worked on a rig?

Irrelevant.

Originally Posted by highHorseguy

I only ask because if your only defense against increased domestic production is "there isn't enough" then go back and rethink your entire position. The fact is this, there is oil there and we will go after it either now or sometime in the future. That's right, it's there, we know it's there, we know we can get to it and with today's technology we can limit the impact on the enviroment to almost nothing.

So, to help the environment and become less oil-dependent... we need to go after more oil?

As usual a bunch of Arm Chair Enviromentalist want to stand in the way, and this time it's even worse cause now no matter how bad we need to or how much sense it makes,

Let me use your [irrelevant] argumentative tactics...

What do you actually know about the environment? When was the last time you visited or worked for a nonprofit environmental agency?

Originally Posted by let's make it political again

it is the idea of the Republicans so the dems will try to block it anyway they can just because they didn't decide to do it first. Also, because they are beholden to these Arm Chair Enviromentalist.

see above.

Originally Posted by huh

We are going to drill in Alaska, hell the citizens of Alaska are begging us too,

They are? I didn't know... I'll be more inclined to believe you after you substantiate that claim with some evidence.

we are going to drill the shales in the western states (which by the way we are already drilling shales all across the country, the barnett in TX, the conastaga in AL, the haynesville in LA, the marine in MS/LA), and we are going to drill off the coast. BTW before you start telling me what I know about these fields you should know I have worked in every one of them and am currently working in a couple I haven't named.

Again, where you work does not matter. You can work in a given field and be completely comparatively ignorant to the person who doesn't, but reads up on it. That does not lend any credibility.

BTW if you are so "Progressive", as you have stated in other threads, Why are you so hell bent on standing in the way of Progress?

I thought the idea was to ween the US off of oil use... no no, just wait a few years and you'll begin to see nominal benefits.

DOE supports that stance, just read the link.



Next?

[nero]

How's my speling?

[IEATV8S]

As some of the liberals here do, no names mentioned, I checked on the author of the piece a Bill Scher.

Seems he's slightly more then a liberal writer, having been a contributor to the Huffington Post and has written a few LEFT LEANING books, such as "Wait, Don't move to Canada". Oh, BTW, he just happens to be the Executive Editor of LiberalOasis.com

Point, game, set, and match! Will they ever learn? Here's Goth's great liberal hope, I guess he's just turned into another 86NYGN, who faced with facts, is stymied by his betters! No big words added for your enjoyment of this review!

[V8Assassin]

Originally Posted by nero

Irrelevant.



So, to help the environment and become less oil-dependent... we need to go after more oil?


Exactly, we will not become less oil dependent overnight, but we can impact speculative prices and become less dependent on foreign oil. How can the U.S. keep preaching increased production to the rest of the world and not do it ourselves?

Let me use your [irrelevant] argumentative tactics...

What do you actually know about the environment? When was the last time you visited or worked for a nonprofit environmental agency?

Well, I kept my butt in school and got one of those big pieces of paper with forest management and wildlife biology written on it. During my education I worked with the Sierra Club and the National Audubon Sociey on projects involving resource extraction and enviromental impact. Quite a few studies, do you want me to continue to school you or are you ready to concede this one?
see above.



They are? I didn't know... I'll be more inclined to believe you after you substantiate that claim with some evidence.

Got this info from Hannity and Colmes, Newt Says So! But here ya go anyway

Alaska Senators Make Another Push For Oil Drilling in ANWR - CommonDreams.org

Societal

(don't forget to read conclusions)

Online NewsHour: Drilling in Alaska -- April 17, 2002

Should I keep going or have you had enough?

Again, where you work does not matter. You can work in a given field and be completely comparatively ignorant to the person who doesn't, but reads up on it. That does not lend any credibility.

No, there's no credibility in working in the industry we are discussing. Yeah, that's it college degrees, work history, personal knowledge, no none of that lends credibility. As long as we are talking about credibility, what's yours?


I thought the idea was to ween the US off of oil use... no no, just wait a few years and you'll begin to see nominal benefits.

DOE supports that stance, just read the link.

The idea is to lessen our dependence on foreign oil, it will take decades to ween ourselves off oil. Hey McFly, you in there, we live in a petroleum based economy that took the last hundred years to develop. It will not be solved overnight, and your arugment is do nothing and continue down the path of dependence on foreign oil. Maybe if we weren't so dependent on Middle Eastern Oil, we wouldn't be in Iraq right now. Ever think of that?
Is that really the best you have?
Next?

BTW the spelling has come a long way, thanks.

[Razor]

I bet the oil companies are the last ones wanting any change. Thats like asking McDonalds to invest in Pizza making technology.

[IEATV8S]

Originally Posted by Razor

I bet the oil companies are the last ones wanting any change. Thats like asking McDonalds to invest in Pizza making technology.

Why would they want that? Apparently the MORE OIL we have, the more oil the companies can sell, the more money they take in! All the supposed people in the know say that oil consumption within the next 3 years is going to increase by 4-5%!

With the Asian countries having increased uses for oil and China's purported oil consumption increase up approx. 9%, it only make GOOD BUSINESS SENSE to increase supply!

History dictates, no supply, someone is going to go LOOKING to other places to SECURE their oil! Do you remember Japan before WW II, or is that way before your time?

[Razor]

WWII... Way before my time.. Agreed.. as long as there is a demand.. someone will provide the product. Especially when profit is being made.

[Turbo RX-6]

Originally Posted by nero
What do you actually know about the environment? When was the last time you visited or worked for a nonprofit environmental agency?

Originally Posted by V8Assassin
Well, I kept my butt in school and got one of those big pieces of paper with forest management and wildlife biology written on it. During my education I worked with the Sierra Club and the National Audubon Sociey on projects involving resource extraction and enviromental impact. Quite a few studies, do you want me to continue to school you or are you ready to concede this one?

Holy crap, that bitch slap was so hard it hurt me, are you okay nero, do you need medical attention.

[Weester]

"Well, I kept my butt in school and got one of those big pieces of paper with forest management and wildlife biology written on it. During my education I worked with the Sierra Club and the National Audubon Sociey on projects involving resource extraction and enviromental impact. Quite a few studies, do you want me to continue to school you or are you ready to concede this one? "

Nice to hear that someone around here has a decent education.....

I wonder if Turbo RX-6 or IEATV8S ever finished high school.......LOL!

[Turbo RX-6]

Originally Posted by Weester

I wonder if Turbo RX-6 or IEATV8S ever finished high school.......LOL!

At least you have to ask that question, with you it's pretty obvious.

Shall we post some of your more intelligent replies? I didin't think so.

Tell me, in order to get yours, did you have to be able to spell GED, Weester?

[Weester]

Bachelors in 1971 from Cal State Long Beach went back after Navy and received my Masters in 1978.........................Both in Biology........................