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" "It has been four years since the Committee began the second phase of its review," Sen. Dianne Feinstein wrote in her note attached to the report. "
Wow that biatch is awfully slow. Like most Dumocrats. Anybody who seriously listens to Feinstein is a hippocrit of the first order. Ask her how she got her handgun permit. ![]() |
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When confronted with the facts salvagev6 does what any common criminal or drug addict would do. Change the subject and deny the FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! One thing that you might try salvaging is your reasoning and critical thinking, putdown Hannity for just one minute and breathe some fresh air.The Senate just Proved in salvage's own words: Lying righty rethuglicans |
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We knew this years ago, and some people still dont ( hi Salvage, Hi IEATV8)
The smoking gun was the False Niger Claim that got into the state of the Union... They asked tenet, "you knew that claim was false, why did you let Bush say it" He said "oh yeah, my bad" then Bush gave him a medal Just like Libby....if you lie and cover for Bush, you WILL BE REWARDED
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This is why Bush is an A$$.
I also just finished reading "What Happened" Scott McClellan's new book. It is quite interesting. After going through it, to me it seems like it was not all Bush or even mostly Bush, but the success of the people around him to make Bush feel that the case for war was the only way to prevent further acts of terrorism. I saw an interview a few days ago with Scott, and the question was asked if Bush knew Saddam didn't have WMDs, would he have still invaded. Scott imediately said of course not, but that Bush and his former press secretary has to say yes he would, for political reasons. Obviously Bush must take the blame for everything since he is the president, but I just feel for the guy being manipulated in such a negative way. Ruined a great American name, and unless Iraq is the next post war Japan in 10 -15 years from now, he will never be vindicated. Sad
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"Before taking the country to war, this Administration owed it to the American people to give them a 100 percent accurate picture of the threat we faced. Unfortunately, our Committee has concluded that the Administration made significant claims that were not supported by the intelligence," Rockefeller said in a statement provided to The Huffington Post.
I hate to break it to you, but these are not quotes from the Senate report, these are excerps from committee members, called additional views that are not even part of the report, but are members on the committee expressing their personal views. You just chose to post one from the Democrats, notice the name Rockenfeller, I.E. John D. Rockenfeller, Democrat, and how it was leaked to the Huffington post. Hell, anyone can play that game, here's the opening of the Chairman of the committee's report. Quote:
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I have looked over the actual official Senate report, I haven't found any of the stuff in your quotes in the actual report, but I'll keep looking.. I could go on and on, these are just personal views, do you really expect us to believe that if a Senate Report had come out yesterday that specifically stated that Bush flat out lied to the American public about the Iraq war, that it wouldn't have exploded the liberal news media, it would be all you were hearing about today.
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I don't think Iraq has to become Japan. That sets the bar pretty high to a country with 3 distinct ethnic groups. If they become another Egypt or Turkey in 10 years, Bush will be vindicated. 1. because No matter if he had WMD's or not, Saddam wanted them and would use them if he had them (because he did). 2. Iraq as a Ally puts the squeeze on Iran, as it did back before Saddam went all WMD crazy in the late 80s. 3. With Iraq on our side, we can go after those bankrolling the terrorists in SA and other countries in the region. They have a personal stake in it now, because these terrorists killed Iraqi's.
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Obviously Bush must take the blame for everything since he is the president, but I just feel for the guy being manipulated in such a negative way."
You want to point the finger, point it at Cheney!!! Bush is too stupid to have set this up!!
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[quote=Turbo RX-6;1888340]"Before taking the country to war, this Administration owed it to the American people to give them a 100 percent accurate picture of the threat we faced. Unfortunately, our Committee has concluded that the Administration made significant claims that were not supported by the intelligence," Rockefeller said in a statement provided to The Huffington Post.
I hate to break it to you, but these are not quotes from the Senate report, these are excerps from committee members, called additional views that are not even part of the report, but are members on the committee expressing their personal views. You just chose to post one from the Democrats, notice the name Rockenfeller, I.E. John D. Rockenfeller, Democrat, and how it was leaked to the Huffington post. Watch the Fontline piece" Bush's war". tell us what you think FRONTLINE: home | PBS Why is it so hard for you to believe that this was a predetermined war ( Dec 02) when so many have come forward with proof of it? CIA, administration officials, obvious manipulation of Intel. One CIA analyst ( on frontline ) even stated that he saw Cheyney damn nearly every week inquiring about intel and requesting the rechecking of dubious intel that had already been disproved. He stated in al his years he saw a VP only occaionally at formal CIA functions. Ask yourself why was Cheyney constantly badgering the intel folks? |
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This is right from your very own Senate report that you posted, I will also note that knowhere in the Senate report does it ever say Intel was purposely fabricated. Quote:
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Again, let's look at what your Senate report that you so proudly posted says on this. Pay very close attention to the last line in this damning report you posted. Quote:
Again, as I said before, if this were true, you really don't think it would be dominating the headlines, of course it would.
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Your quotes are from phase 1 of the senate report correct?
Interesting facts about what Richard Kerr fmr. Deputy Director of the CIA: The day before Independence Day, Richard Kerr, a former CIA deputy director who is leading a review of the CIA's prewar intelligence on Iraq's unconventional weapons, held a series of interviews with journalists and revealed that his unfinished inquiry had so far found that the intelligence on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction had been somewhat ambiguous, that analysts at the CIA and other intelligence services had received pressure from the Bush administration, and that the CIA had not found any proof of operational ties between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's regime. In other words, Bush lied. Bush had said that intelligence gathered by the United States and other nations had determined--"no doubt"--that Hussein possessed WMDs, and he had declared that the Iraqi dictator was "dealing" with al Qaeda. Kerr's statements undermined these vital assertions Bush had made to justify the war. Kerr was not trying to be difficult. His remarks were primarily pro-CIA. He maintained that the agency had been right to tell Bush and top administration officials that Hussein was seeking WMDs. He said that intelligence analysts had resisted pressure and had done a fine job, considering the limited amount of material they had to work with. Kerr noted that US intelligence analysts had been forced to rely upon information from the early and mid-1990s and had little hard evidence to evaluate after 1998 (when UN weapons inspectors left the Iraq). The material that did come in after then was mostly "circumstantial" or "inferential," he said. It was "less specific and detailed" than in earlier years, "scattered." Speaking to The Washington Post, he commented, "It would have been very hard to conclude those [WMD] programs were not continuing, based on the reports being gathered in recent years." And he noted that CIA intelligence reports included the "appropriate caveats" regarding their less-than-definitive conclusions. (An unclassified CIA report released last October said, without qualification, "Baghdad has chemical and biological weapons." But its supporting material was nuanced, and Kerr noted that intelligence analysts usually pointed out that their information was not perfect.) Though Kerr did not say so outright, his findings indicate that there was no hard-and-fast intelligence that Iraq possessed ready-to-go chemical or biological weapons. Yet that is what Bush, Dick Cheney, Colin Powell, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Ari Fleischer and other administration officials had asserted repeatedly. In his interviews, Kerr remarked that US intelligence analysts were right to assume, based on older evidence and more recent circumstantial material, that Iraq was maintaining its unconventional weapons programs. But developing weapons is not the same as possessing weapons. Bush and his advisers did not argue that the United States was compelled to go to war--rather than support more intrusive inspections--because Hussein had ongoing weapons programs; they claimed the United States had to invade because it was imminently threatened by actual weapons that were in Hussein's mitts (and that he could slip at any moment to his partners in al Qaeda). Before the war, there was little doubt that Hussein had a fancy for mass-killing weapons and was defying UN disarmament resolutions in part to maintain programs to develop such awful devices. Yet a desire for WMDs and a development program are not as threatening as the real things, and Bush and his colleagues said the intelligence showed--without question--Hussein was armed with biological and chemical weapons, was close to building a nuclear bomb, and was in league with Osama bin Laden. Kerr's comments offer further proof none of this was true. So did front-page headlines scream, "Former Deputy CIA Director Contradicts Bush's Key War Claims"? Nope. Kerr's remarks were treated more as a hiccup than a bombshell. A search of the Lexis-Nexis newspaper database turned up only three stories that were published; they appeared in the Post, The Los Angeles Times, and The San Diego Union-Tribune. And the headlines focused on Kerr's rah-rahing for the CIA. "Basis for Arms Claims Affirmed" (the Post). "Official Backs Prewar Claims" ( The Los Angeles). "Internal Review Backs CIA on Iraqi Weapons" ( The San Diego Union-Tribune). Each piece emphasized Kerr's endorsement of the CIA's analysts, rather than the fact that his findings revealed that the Bush administration had misrepresented the work of the analysts. As of this writing, The New York Times has not published a word about Kerr's preliminary findings. You think it's a coincidence that Kerr spoke to reporters the day prior to a long holiday weekend? You don't have to be James Bond to figure that out. Slowly, official material is seeping out that confirms the allegation that Bush and his national security crew misled the country into war. Last week, Representative Jane Harman, the ranking Democrat on the House intelligence committee, referred to preliminary findings of a review being conducted by her committee. This examination, like Kerr's, has found that the intelligence analysts had attached caveats and qualifiers to their assessments of the WMD threat from Iraq (which Bush never bothered to mention) and that there had been no good intelligence linking Hussein with bin Laden. (Click here to read more about her remarks.) Perhaps Kerr is right and that US intelligence analysts had good cause--if not good evidence--to conclude that Hussein was still on the prowl for WMDs. A cynic, though, might wonder whether this former senior CIA official (who was a longtime analyst for the agency) is being overly kind to his alma mater. Nevertheless, the issue at hand is what Bush and his administration told the public. Kerr's remarks add to the case against Bush. They are another signal that thorough investigations could end up establishing that the accusation that Bush lied needs no qualifiers or caveats.
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