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forget taking Chavez out, make venezuala the 51st state.

As for what has gotten cheaper over the last 100 years, just about anything mass produced. Modern technology makes things cheaper. 100 years ago most things were custom made and cost a fortune. How many people could afford a car 100 years ago. How many people can afford them now? How many people could afford a TV 50 years ago, everybody has at least 2 per house now.
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"forget taking Chavez out, make venezuala the 51st state."

Why go all the way to south america when we can annex Mexico....They have mucho oil.....................
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I would rather Mexico stay Mexico, don't want the US Govt taking away all the fun and enforcing laws!
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Haven't read all the replies but, 5 new refinerary's, drill over here, charge a major tax on all reined oil from folks like Venezuela (hugo chavez), so there gas isn't so cheap anymore

Become more freindly with brazil that just found about 59b barrels of oil and forget about corn husks and go after sugar cane alcohol instead. The US could stand to lose some wieght from all the sugar we east anyway.

Invest in Hydrogen and Natural Gas programs for everyday vehicles and not just buses, because the last time I checked the earth is about 2/3 water.

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Alternative sources are our future!! Hybrids will be the first step and then we will go to Hydrogen.
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The mine of the POOR...Why are you poor why in the riches country in the world...why are you poor DUMBA$$. Your school is the reason why. Don`t forget you parent is the #1 reason for all your problem...LOL (do you know what i mean homier, don`t play me son)
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The Jews are the problem? Are you just plain crazy?

Jews aren't the problem! More like Hispanic (Hugo Chavez) , Arabic (Towel Heads), and Persian (Bearded, Beady eyes, Amdininjaad or however you spell the leader of Iran)

Stop blaming the Jews God D@mmit!




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We is knowin were the oils are. Billions be wasting by sitting it leaving in ground.

Them jews the problem, yo. They keeping all oil themselfs.
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How bout let's put a CRATER about a mile wide where Chavez is sleeping!!


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Why go all the way to south america when we can annex Mexico....They have mucho oil.....................
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"Someone sell Weepster a schwinn for a good price, He won't be able to afford anything else once Obomba is elected!!!"

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Jews aren't the problem! More like Hispanic (Hugo Chavez) , Arabic (Towel Heads), and Persian (Bearded, Beady eyes, Amdininjaad or however you spell the leader of Iran)

Stop blaming the Jews God D@mmit!
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It's about time someone put Mac in his place.

My place with mine school and parent. Both them poor dumba$$es.

I just got it. LMAO.
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Who said right wingers were sloooooooooooooooooooow......
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why dont we grant amnesty to the illegals and place them in a mandatory higher tax bracket. this income can be used to offset the high price of fuel
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Believe me when i tell you this. The price of gas will NEVER go back to lower price. Americans are INVESTORS.

Let me correct myself. The price of gas may return to low price when 60-70% of the u.s are driving non-gas power vehicle.

Once the oil company sell a 60-70% loss in gas consumption. The cooperate pig will/may lower price to re-gain loss market.

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#1 Eliminate oil being traded on the futures market!!

Think about this, oil was selling in the $40~$50ish a barrel pre-Katrina..not much flucuation except when OPEC would get together and change production, which sent the futures traders in a tizzy.

Along comes Katrina..OMG, we are going to loose a bunch of drill rigs and prodution facilities on the coast...hmmmm what happened, not much damage to any of the well platforms or production facilities other than getting power back on-line and getting production back up, but if memory serves me right, the wonderful futures pronognosticators sounded the death and destruction alarm, and fuel shot up sharply. Fast forword 9 months, wells are back on line, but we need to do maint on a prodution facility..someone go get the futures alarm monger going...goes up more...you see my point, they have taken advantage of everything, meanwhile oil profits are astronomical.

I don't know about other states, but in Oklahoma, if a disaster is declared, businesses can't rake people over the coals because of supply and demand, but the futures traders have been given special permission to screw everyone out of fear.

I'm sure glad to see our gov't working hard on a solution...Awwwww Horse-S**T!!!!!!!! But I'm sure glad we have a president that wants to keep filling strategical reserves. God help us!!
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You may be right about oil being traded on the futures market but your reasoning has some holes in it.

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#1 Eliminate oil being traded on the futures market!!

Think about this, oil was selling in the $40~$50ish a barrel pre-Katrina..not much flucuation except when OPEC would get together and change production, which sent the futures traders in a tizzy.

Along comes Katrina..OMG, we are going to loose a bunch of drill rigs and prodution facilities on the coast...hmmmm what happened, not much damage to any of the well platforms or production facilities other than getting power back on-line and getting production back up, but if memory serves me right, the wonderful futures pronognosticators sounded the death and destruction alarm, and fuel shot up sharply. Fast forword 9 months, wells are back on line, but we need to do maint on a prodution facility..someone go get the futures alarm monger going...goes up more...you see my point, they have taken advantage of everything, meanwhile oil profits are astronomical.
Our refinery (Chevron Pascagoula) is Chevron's largest U.S. Refinery and was down for three months after Katrina. Another 2 months to get up to full capacity. There were many damaged wells and platforms in the Gulf of Mexico. Production in the Southeastern U.S. was significantly impacted by Katrina (and Rita and the fire last year at our refinery and maintenance is a necessary evil on a 40 year old refinery).

Oil company profits are in the 8%-10% range. Perfectly ordinary in any successful business and WELL BELOW many other industries during the same period.

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I don't know about other states, but in Oklahoma, if a disaster is declared, businesses can't rake people over the coals because of supply and demand, but the futures traders have been given special permission to screw everyone out of fear.
Again, you may be on to something here but as it stands now, free enterprise is hard at work and Economics 101 - Day 1 lesson of "Supply and Demand" dictates the price of crude oil and thusly the price of gasoline and diesel and jet and propane and benzene and paraxylene and toluene and butane and....

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I'm sure glad to see our gov't working hard on a solution...Awwwww Horse-S**T!!!!!!!! But I'm sure glad we have a president that wants to keep filling strategical reserves. God help us!!

Sorry, but if we're not gonna drill for our own oil (you know, something that anyone with any common sense would've started 10 years ago) then I want the strategic reserves filled to the rim.
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why dont we grant amnesty to the illegals and place them in a mandatory higher tax bracket. this income can be used to offset the high price of fuel
Why would they want amnesty when they can get an id, vote, free schooling,free health care and work for cash and send it home ?
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You can't eliminate the futures market, as REGULAR buying and selling for the consumer is done there, BUT since spectulators DO play there, why not INCREASE the margins that all customers have to put up to buy contracts. Currently, after looking at what's happening, it seems that people who are not regular members of the exchanges are required to put up ONLY approx. $10,000 to control 1 contract (1,000 barrels)! That's $126,000 worth of oil. Raise that margin up to 50% of the price of that contract, and watch a LARGE percentage of the spectulators go away!

This was done almost 30 years ago with the price of silver, and caused a drastic price reduction almost immediately!

Certainly worth a try, but there is NO ONE in charge that has the balls to do it! You make it so it's NOT favorable to play the futures market, you'll change the oil DEMAND habit!
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Please don't get me wrong, I'm all for making fair profit and any consumable, but why are other items regulated as to cost...your electric, gas, phone to mention a few? I don't see why oil can't be another commodity or service that someone needs to step in and monitor. All these items effect the economy, so hence they need to be regulated. Trust me I hate to have any more washington types involved with anything, but something will need to be done before this economy comes to a screaching halt.

Their's plenty of blame to go around, but it all starts with each individual, we all have to do our own little part in conserving fuel. You will see in my sig the vehicles I own, and some would say ohh a suburban...gas hog, but since I keep very good maint done, synthetic oil, 25k oil changes, etc, and I don't fly at 80+ on the interstate, I average almost 21 MPG Hywy, which most of my driving is done, but I also own a MC, and just about drive it every day from March to September since the weather is nice in Oklahoma. The GN and GS are weekend fun mobiles that I go to car shows etc, so they see little as DD's, and the Vert is undergoing a frame-off restro right now, so it hasn't seen gas since 06. No matter what, I own them and I won't bitch about what it takes to pay for the gas.

The thing that has me concerned are some of my co-workers that I supervise. I know what they make, and I'm sure this recent surge in prices is hurting them and their families. I'm taking it upon myself to see if I can get them scheduled in a 10hr 4 day schedule.

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Please don't get me wrong, I'm all for making fair profit and any consumable, but why are other items regulated as to cost...your electric, gas, phone to mention a few? I don't see why oil can't be another commodity or service that someone needs to step in and monitor. All these items effect the economy, so hence they need to be regulated.
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So does food, clothes, consumables, house prices, car prices, and so on and so on, should we regulate those, of course not.

Utilities companies must be non profit to recieve federal aasistance and provide essential services that every living quarters must have. You have to have gas for heat, you have to have electricity to operate the appliances, and so on. They are considered critical services. That is essentially why they can be somewhat regulated.

Electric companies are not even federally regulated, it's done by the state they are in, and is more of a local market. Thats why electric in Chicago is extremely high, but in Salt Lake City it's cheap.

Oil companies on the other hand are private businesses that are not providing an essential service, even though it would be very difficult for me, or most people, there are many people who don't own cars, who never buy a gallon of gas, not to many never use electricity, or natural gas.

It's a non-renewable energy source and should be treated as such. It cost money to make and if you take the profits away then why would a company even bother making it.

We need to start getting our oil from our own resourses. Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico are thought to have more oil than in all of the Middle East. But, but most liberals don't want us to drill there and they don't want any more refineries built.

Not to mention the fact th they have no control over the price of crude, they are buying it to refine it and are therefore at the mercy of the supplier. You can't regulate crude oil prices.

I agree with Eat and others, one thing I hate is how the oil speculators trading on futures causes the prices to sky rocket.
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"We need to start getting our oil from our own resourses. Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico are thought to have more oil than in all of the Middle East. But, but most liberals don't want us to drill there and they don't want any more refineries built."

Link/Proof????

I'm not against drilling in Alaska! we need to explore the possibilities and from what I have heard from friends in Alaska, they are not against it either.

I dont think that there is more oil there than in the middle east and when we deplete the amount that we extract from Alaska, what is next???

The ultimate answer is alternative fuel vehicles, ie: Hydrogen!
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"We need to start getting our oil from our own resourses. Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico are thought to have more oil than in all of the Middle East. But, but most liberals don't want us to drill there and they don't want any more refineries built."

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I'm not against drilling in Alaska! we need to explore the possibilities and from what I have heard from friends in Alaska, they are not against it either.

I dont think that there is more oil there than in the middle east and when we deplete the amount that we extract from Alaska, what is next???
Lets twist again, like we do every thread. Notice I said Alaska and The Gulf of Mexico, you tried to narrow it to Alaska. There is at least 800 Billion with a B, barrels of discovered reserves there, we don't even know how much is really there, but the discovered reserves are enough to last us a 110 years, with no outside supplies.
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That would give us plenty of time to come up with an alternative! Also, are the utilities (gas, electric, cable) regulated because they are pretty much a monopoly? I know where I am you have no choice even with cable, so they can charge what ever they want if it is not regulated.
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Here is my solution. President Bush should not ask the Saudi's and other to increase production. They should be told to increase prodution and lower the cost per barrel or we will take the oil and they will not profit at all. Given the choice of making billions of dollars or nothing I see all of them choosing to make money.
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to hell with all the authoritarian/socialist/big government solutions you guys have been throwing out there... i think a little (or a lot of) freedom would do just fine, along with a return to the Constitution. The oil and gas industry is terribly over-regulated and over-taxed. how about:

1. disband the EPA -- handle pollution through good, old-fashioned nuissance law ON THE STATE LEVEL (protecting property rights).

2. stop the federal government from maintaining wildlife preserves AT ALL (where in the Constitution are they given that power again?) -- ANWR and all other national parks should be returned to the control of the states that they are in (AK would almost certainly choose to allow drilling there).

3. Disband the Federal Reserve, and return to a hard-asset backed currency (preferably gold and silver, like the Constitution requires). Part of the reason fuel and everything else is getting more expensive is inflation caused by the mass printing of money by the Fed (in an effort to bail out their banker buddies). Just minting more money isn't possible when all money must be backed by a certain amount of precious metals.

4. stop our ridiculous isolationist/hyperinterventionist foreign policy: no sanctions, no embargoes, no protective tariffs, and full diplomatic discourse with any nation that will have it. UNILATERAL free trade. Also pull our troops out of most of the 130 nations they are currently in, and stop getting involved in the internal affairs of other nations.

5. No subsidies for ANYTHING -- ethanol, farmers, or anything else. Let the market decide whether alternative fuels are desireable, and which kind to pursue. If gas gets too expensive, increasing demand for an alternative will cause companies to invest in developing it. No government intervention required.

6. Drastically reduce the size of the federal government as a whole and get rid of the income tax (this wouldn't directly make gas cheaper, but would make it more affordable for most of us).
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Lets twist again, like we do every thread. Notice I said Alaska and The Gulf of Mexico, you tried to narrow it to Alaska. There is at least 800 Billion with a B, barrels of discovered reserves there, we don't even know how much is really there, but the discovered reserves are enough to last us a 110 years, with no outside supplies.

Yeah,

Lets drill in the Gulf of Mexico and every time a hurricane passes through our oil gets cut off for months at a time.............

Alternative fuel is the only way to go.....
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Personally, I no longer drive my '07 Impala SS car to work and the Buick stays parked. For the past six weeks I've been riding my bicycle the few miles to my nearest Metrolink station where I lock it up, take the train 8 minutes to its next stop, then walk at a brisk pace the 15 minutes to my office. Several of us have even taken to walking as a group in the morning, as all of us work in the same vicinity near St. Joseph's Hospital in Orange. In the afternoon it's the reverse: a 15 minute walk, wait 10 minutes for the train, take the 8 minute train ride, then bike ride the 3 miles home. I'm eating less, eating more fruits and veggies, losing weight, getting "you look great" comments from the ladies at work, and feeling good.

For those times when I do need to run errands that are too far to ride a bicycle, I'll take the '04 HD Sportster Custom I recently bought with 640 miles on it that on average is getting over 50 MPG; with the optional 4.5 gallon tank so it goes a long way!

One thing I've noticed: at first the trains were somewhat crowded, now they're packed to standing room only.
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I would think spending $8 Billion less a month in Iraq each would make dent.
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I would think spending $8 Billion less a month in Iraq each would make dent.
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