Pakistan and Taliban sign pact

[JSAautomotive]

“America makes no distinction between those who commit acts of terror, and those that harbor and support them, because they’re equally guilty of murder.”
- GW Bush, Sept. 5, 2006

Really? Pakistan just signed a peace deal that essentially gives Pro-Taliban forces and even bin Laden himself safe haven. The Pakistani army will even go so far as to return captured Taliban weapons and prisoners. These are our allies?


by kos
Pakistan and Taliban sign pact
Tue Sep 05, 2006 at 07:55:35 PM PDT
August 27:

Gen. John Abizaid, commander of the U.S. Central Command, said militants are using Pakistan as a base to infiltrate into Afghanistan, but he said the Pakistani government is not conspiring with them.

"I think that Pakistan has done an awful lot in going after al-Qaida and it's important that they don't let the Taliban groups be organized in the Pakistani side of the border," he said in Bagram, where the main U.S. military base in Afghanistan is located.

Abizaid said he does not believe accusations of collusion between Pakistan's government and the resurgent Taliban rebels or other extremists.

Today:
Miranshah: Pro Taliban militants and the Pakistani government signed a peace deal on Tuesday, according to Pakistani negotiators.

The militants said they would stop attacks in Pakistan and across the Afghan border on the condition that the Pakistani government stop air and ground operations in the Waziristan region and dismantle newly built checkposts.

People arrested during military operations will also be released under the agreement and confiscated property, including weapons, would be returned.

This is the best part of the deal:

The peace agreement means that there will be no more free movement for tribes to enter into Afghanistan.

"Except for trade, people will not be allowed to go to Afghanistan to launch attacks," said Nek Zaman, a member of the tribal council who is also a member of the Pakistani parliament.

I'm sure they all got a chuckle after "agreeing" on that part of the deal. With no Pakistani Army or checkpoints in the region, who is supposed to enforce that?

So was Abizaid lying, or was he blindsided by our supposed "allies" in Pakistan? And congratulations to Bush, who was just played the fool by Musharraf, who is cashing in U.S. checks to the tune of $3 billion over five years and was supposedly assisting US efforts on the "war on terror".

Update: Woah, it's even worse than that:

If he is in Pakistan, bin Laden "would not be taken into custody," Major General Shaukat Sultan Khan told ABC News in a telephone interview, "as long as one is being like a peaceful citizen." – ABC News, Sept. 5, 2006.

That's Bush's allies in action. He's allienated our real allies, and made friends with thugs and despots. Why would we expect anything less?

Like I said.... the problem has always been in Pakistan and Syria. Iraq was a bunch of B.S. and a waste of time. So much for having a bunch of limp wristed Republitards running a war on terror.

[John Larkin]

I saw this with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears on TV last night. It was clear:

Pakistan: We Will Capture Bin Laden If He's Found
Wednesday, September 06, 2006

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Pakistan said Wednesday that a peace deal with Islamic militants in a border province would not give safe harbor to Usama bin Laden if he is found in the country.

Pakistan's government and militants -- believed to support Al Qaeda and the Taliban militia -- signed a peace deal Tuesday with the government, aimed at ending years of violence in the rugged North Waziristan tribal area.

"Pakistan is committed to its policy on the war on terror, and Usama caught anywhere in Pakistan would be brought to justice," the country's top army spokesman, Gen. Shaukat Sultan, told The Associated Press.

Some observers had expressed concern the pact could provide a haven for militant leaders like bin Laden, who is believed to be hiding in the rugged border zone, or that it proves the Pakistani military unable to crush an insurgency on its own soil.

However, Pakistan's Defense Minister's office said Wednesday that "Pakistan is on the hunt for Usama bin Laden and his associates."

"No amnesty has been granted to Usama bin Laden," it said. "He deserves no mercy."

The White House also defended the deal, saying Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf's government "has been very cooperative in helping track down members of Al Qaeda."

"There's been an implication that somehow this throws open the border area to Al Qaeda. That does not make sense for the government of Pakistan," White House spokesman Tony Snow said, responding to reporters' questions in Washington.

"We don't believe it is the case," he said. "And I think what's happened is, as quite often happens, people try to connect dots that aren't there."

Under the deal, the militants are to halt attacks on Pakistani forces in the semiautonomous region and stop crossing into nearby eastern Afghanistan to attack U.S. and Afghan forces, who are hunting Al Qaeda and Taliban forces there.

Pakistani troops are to stop their hugely unpopular military campaign in the restive Pakistani region, in which more than 350 soldiers have died, along with hundreds of militants and scores of civilians

[JSAautomotive]

I don't know if Major General Shaukat Khan is a senior General to this Shaukat Sultan, but he says specifically on this video clip of the ABC news report "As long as one [Saddam or any terrorist] is being a peaceful citizen, one would not be taken into custody"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHa4Q2rqqQg

Plus the ABC quote I posted directly contrasts that of which you AP reports says.

"If he is in Pakistan, bin Laden "would not be taken into custody," Major General Shaukat Sultan Khan told ABC News in a telephone interview, "as long as one is being like a peaceful citizen." – ABC News, Sept. 5, 2006.

You watch the interview and you be the judge. All in all... if Pakistan is not going to be patrolling the Taliban, then that will spell trouble for Afganistan and mostly likely our troops there.

[Red Regal T]

Whatever the case, you seem to be happy about the outcome. After all, you wouldn't want your kindred spirit, Osama, to be taken prisoner. The left is invested in the defeat of America, and all this shows me is that Islam is the common thread between Pakistan and the Taliban. It is Islam, not nationalism.

[John Larkin]

Maybe they were interviewing Shaka Khan and just spell checked it wrong. ABC would do that, you know. Dan Rather would have fer sure.

[PCS74]

Bin Laden is dead and has been for a long time. Get over it.

Chris S

[JSAautomotive]

Originally Posted by Red Regal T

Whatever the case, you seem to be happy about the outcome. After all, you wouldn't want your kindred spirit, Osama, to be taken prisoner. The left is invested in the defeat of America, and all this shows me is that Islam is the common thread between Pakistan and the Taliban. It is Islam, not nationalism.

Hey Red... don't put words in my mouth. I've always said we should have never left Afganistan and gone right into Pakistan to hunt down and kill Bin Laden. Or at least bombed the crap out of their nuclear weapons.

And what have you been saying all along here in this forum??

That we needed to be in Iraq and defending it all the way.'

Sorry.... you lose and have to lie to paint me saying things I never said.

typical righty liar.

[JSAautomotive]

Originally Posted by PCS74

Bin Laden is dead and has been for a long time. Get over it.

Chris S

Nobody really knows now do we??

[Red Regal T]

Originally Posted by JSAautomotive

Hey Red... don't put words in my mouth. I've always said we should have never left Afganistan and gone right into Pakistan to hunt down and kill Bin Laden. Or at least bombed the crap out of their nuclear weapons.

And what have you been saying all along here in this forum??

That we needed to be in Iraq and defending it all the way.'

Sorry.... you lose and have to lie to paint me saying things I never said.

typical righty liar.

You people are invested in the defeat of America, and you want whatever it takes to put your commies you idolize in power. No matter what we did to fight terrorism, you ne'er do wells would be criticizing the actions instead of supporting your country. That's not in any way a lie.

[weester87]

"You people are invested in the defeat of America, and you want whatever it takes to put your commies you idolize in power. No matter what we did to fight terrorism, you ne'er do wells would be criticizing the actions instead of supporting your country. That's not in any way a lie."

Dementia must running rampant throught the swamps in Florida! Comrade Red has completely lost it. Must be that steady diet of RL and Viagra....LMAO!

Listen to Reds rantings and then listen to that Clown in Iran....Same B.S., different continents.

[PCS74]

What is the average life expectancy in that area of the world, how old was Bin Laden, what medical conditions did he suffer from, what medical care is available in the region where he is reputed to be hiding, when was the last time he a made a statement where the current date could be verified.....???????

Plain and simple he either died of natural causes or our government dissapeared his ass. The fools dead and he wasn't made a martyr. End of story.

Chris S

[JSAautomotive]

Originally Posted by PCS74

What is the average life expectancy in that area of the world, how old was Bin Laden, what medical conditions did he suffer from, what medical care is available in the region where he is reputed to be hiding, when was the last time he a made a statement where the current date could be verified.....???????

Plain and simple he either died of natural causes or our government dissapeared his ass. The fools dead and he wasn't made a martyr. End of story.

Chris S

I'm sure Boosh or his Republitards will pull this rabbit out of the hat just in time for either the Nov elections or maybe the next Presidental elections.

[JSAautomotive]

Originally Posted by Red Regal T

You people are invested in the defeat of America, and you want whatever it takes to put your commies you idolize in power. No matter what we did to fight terrorism, you ne'er do wells would be criticizing the actions instead of supporting your country. That's not in any way a lie.

Rantings of a luntic.

[The Blob]

Originally Posted by JSAautomotive

Or at least bombed the crap out of their nuclear weapons.

Brilliant! Utterly brilliant!!

You oppose the war in Iraq, yet you advocate going into Pakistan and "bombing the crap" out of their nuclear weapons.

And just how would you propose doing that? (I mean doing it without Pakistan randomly pushing "launch" buttons?)

[salvageV6]

Why he'd use this fantastic leftist thought process, "Rantings of a luntic."

Looks like the Clintonesqe defense of our nation, blow up some camels and tents.

[Red Regal T]

Originally Posted by salvageV6

Why he'd use this fantastic leftist thought process, "Rantings of a luntic."

Looks like the Clintonesqe defense of our nation, blow up some camels and tents.

I think they dramatize that in the 'Path' movie. Do you think they'll edit it out due to leftist hysteria?

[JSAautomotive]

Originally Posted by The Blob

Brilliant! Utterly brilliant!!

You oppose the war in Iraq, yet you advocate going into Pakistan and "bombing the crap" out of their nuclear weapons.

And just how would you propose doing that? (I mean doing it without Pakistan randomly pushing "launch" buttons?)

Let me speak slowly so your small mind can grasp what I'm saying.

Iraq wasn't a threat to us. Never was. Never had the stockpiles of WMD's that Bush lied about him having.

Pakistan on the other hand DOES have nukes and delivery systems for them. Why is the Republitard so scared now to really take on a threat?? Aren't you against terrorism and terrorist nations that back terrorist groups?? Wasssa matter?? Cat got your tongue?? Red?? Skylark??

[JSAautomotive]

Originally Posted by Red Regal T

I think they dramatize that in the 'Path' movie. Do you think they'll edit it out due to leftist hysteria?

Poor Red. Him and his kind have been "outed" again!! LOL!!! Now...... to the rest of the country you guys just look like a bunch of pathological liars. The recent 400 page document released by the senate today isn't "old news", much of what I've been telling you dunderheads has/had to do with Chalabi and the IRC (Iraqi national congress) and how the U.S. had every opportunity to help Chalabi overthrow saddam without us lifting a finger. All it would have took was the U.S. backing Chalabi.

Remember me saying that??

And you guys thought I didn't have connections with U.S/Middle eastern intelligence.

[salvageV6]

Actually I don't think you have connections with ANY intelligence.