Bushy gets biatch slapped!

[JSAautomotive]

Originally Posted by GNandGS

Now this is good. Since when did these guys turn conservative in the context YOU like to use it? After all, its how you define those you dont agree with.

All I did was take the links YOU posted and show you another viewpoint. You are crazy!

I stopped reading when you pasted some opinion that wasnt your own. Do you think for yourself?

If you're not smart enough to figure out it's an all out war between the wacko fundamentlist conservatives and the liberals of today, then you are lost there buddy. Regardless of what party they are with, they are easily identifiable. Ask Red. He calls Bush a "RINO" nowadays.

Seems like you guys don't know which way is up anymore.

[Skylark-69]

Originally Posted by GNandGS

Now this is good. Since when did these guys turn conservative in the context YOU like to use it? After all, its how you define those you dont agree with.

All I did was take the links YOU posted and show you another viewpoint. You are crazy!

I stopped reading when you pasted some opinion that wasnt your own. Do you think for yourself?

JSA doesn't even know what he is, let alone what a Conservative is. He says he's not a liberal, but spews nothing but leftwing rhetoric and is a member of the ACLU. Sorry JSA, America is a REPUBLIC and the DEMOCRATS were against racial equality. They're called facts-the things people like you ignore when they don't fit your fantasy world.

[GNandGS]

No no no. See you dont understand they were Republicans then!

One of them only used the term "white n****r" after becoming a Democrat.

This "change" can only apply to Democrats though... Republicans <cough> I mean Conservatives, were always evil. Wait there is more...

If your ancestors did something that might be percieved as anti-jew or aligned with Nazi's then you too are evil like a Nazi because Republicans, err, Conservatives are unable to change. No matter that a Jewish organization disagrees with the charge - if the formerly Republican Liberal Democrats say so its true! Of course if you were a Liberal Republican (?) turned Democrat (?) your KKK ties are forgotten and forgiven.

Now even though people change and the parties no longer represent what they used to Kennedy was always a modern Liberal Democrat! Ahead of his time you might say.

JS nobody will disagree that "things change" but you can just grab snippets of history to suite "the moment". The fact are what they are. The Southern Manifesto is an stain on our history and there should be NOBODY willing to be tied to that today... to deny however that the mindset was made up of Democrats OF WHICH SOME STILL SERVE is crazy. To even imply that they would be Republicans today is just stupid.... many served in the late 60s the 70's and yes even the 80s... as Democrats.

Strom whom the Dems love to throw out as the Republican racist SWITCHED parties in the 60's. Same year as the Civil Rights act. This must be what you mean by "change". This might mean to the simple minded that Republicans are indeed made up of racist... but that takes us back to Byrd.

[Red Regal T]

[JSAautomotive]

Originally Posted by JSAautomotive

How is being "liberal" being "extreme"?? By definition, liberals follow the constitution to the T. As opposed to their "conservative" coharts. "Conservatism" is the disease of this country. We have fought against it from the beginning of this countries time. Burning witches at the stake, massacreing Indians, chastising heretics, oppressing minorities..... YES!!! This IS the legacy of the "Conservative", but ones that were progressive, democratic, or even "LIBERAL" were not the ones doing the oppressing.

Anybody with a brain should hate Bush and what he stands for. He doesn't stand for "the people" of this country. He'd rather disassemble our constitution so that he could make things "his way" in this country. Funny SoCalGN?? I never got a response as to "what" you are? Caucasion?? Black?? Judeo or some form of Christian/Catholic?? Are you scared to answer me?? Will you continue to run away like most of the "cons" do here on this website when faced with a direct question??

Hey weester?? Do you hear a clucking noise?? .

Originally Posted by SoCalGn

Who's running? I rather enjoy watching you get worked up over things you really seem to have no clue about. For such a well informed cut and paste armchair QB, I don't read much in the way of experience (ie, being a Muslim/going to a Islamic country for more than a layover, being a politician in office, etc) you have to offer in your posts- only your opinion based on liberal ideologies and rhetoric.

I'd have a clue if you weren't being so elusive. What's the problem?? Something to hide?? We're all freinds here...... you can devulge. Besides........ I don't think anybody really cares. Can't understand why you're running away from answering some very simple questions.

So?? You are a Muslim eh?? And you hold a public office?? Where?? What?? Even the owners of the board aren't afriad to tell people what they do, so don't be afraid. No one here is going to come an getcha.

Originally Posted by SoCalGn

With regards to libs following the constitution to the letter- get real! If it fits/meets your agenda, then you support it- constitutional or not. Example- separation of church and state; Libs preach it from the highest towers as being a fundemental part of the Constitution.

Wrong! A loose interpretation of the 1st amendment might lead one to believe in that phrase- but it you're literate enough to read the wording without coloring, you'll read that the amendment refers to the government establishing a religion (ie., Church of England, etc....) nor preventing the free practice thereof. I don't believe our founding fathers played loose and fast with their wording- the wording of the Establishment clause was (and is) direct and to the point.

Sorry if the establishment clause confuses you, but it's pretty simple. Even for this 10th grade high school drop out to figure out.

You sure you understand this???

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,

Congress (essentially meaning govt) will not make ANY laws respecting AN establishment of Religion,"

So you see.... it's has nothing to do with the govt "establishing" a religion, it has to do with the govt "respecting" a religion. In other words.... anything that is sponsored or paid for by govt thru tax dollars is off limits. If you have a PUBLIC school football game and you decide to lead the attendants in a prayer using the schools P.A. system, that is a violation of the Establishment clause. Now if individuals in the audience decide to lead a prayer on their own using their own methods, then no problem. Get the difference?? Nobody that is on school payroll on school time should be participating in violating the establishment clause.

or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

So the "prohibiting the free exercise thereof is the last part of what I said. You can walk around the streets and shout Jesus', Mohammeds, or Buddahs name till you're blue in the face. You can pray in a classroom before taking a test. You can wear a Yamakah or a Turbin in school. But if you go to the Administrations office and use their P.A. system in a prayer, now you've violated the Establishment clause.

Need more lessons?? I'm here all week. Tell your friends.

Originally Posted by SoCalGN

Yet, libs wrongly beat that horse to death over and over again. Why? Why do they support and in fact actively endorse a lie as Constitutional truth?

I just took your arguement apart very easily (as I always do). The Establishment clause cases that have gone in front of the Supreme Court regarding separation of church and state have ALWAYS sided on the "seperation" side as opposed to what your religiously minded drivel you believe.

Originally Posted by SoCalGn

You want to follow your own agenda (as do conservatives)- the difference is that you're more likely to see a lib flip-flip on a issue based on the whim of the day- examples that come to mind include the vote on the war after 9/11, the recent debates on the wiretaps, the "war for oil" crap, etc...

Nice try. But you must be talking to someone that hasn't been paying attention for the last 6.5 years. Another Republitard talking point. "I voted for the war before I voted against it". It reminds me of someone saying, "We will be welcomed as liberators" or "This war will be paid by the proceeds of selling Iraqi oil" or "Mission Accmplished" or "Saddam has stockpiles of nuclear and biological weapons" or "We believe in a transparent govt" or... on and on and on and on. lol!!

But the facts are Congress was briefed by the executive branch via a document called the NIE (national intelligence estimate). Ever hear of it?? I don't think most of the assclowns that use the vote on the war as reason to say "he's a flip flopper" have ever bothered to read it either. The N.I.E. that was given to congress before the war full of lies, mistruths and our WORST intelligence (which by the way Bush now says was wrong. Flip flop??? Yeah.. I guess you could call it that). And by by the way?? Where are those "Fiscal Conservatives" we always heard about?? 8 Trillion dollars in debt ring a bell?? Another flip flop.

Originally Posted by SoCalGN

Bush won- Gore lost. Get over it and get on with life.

Wow!!! Hey that's some great reasoning!! So now that you guys "won", when are you guys going to start "performing"?? Huh!!?? Let's see?? 6 years and the economy is garbage, cost of living is thru the roof, health care is astronomical, the war in Iraq is failing and getting worse, we aren't stopping terrorism, it's just getting worse every day, our ports aren't safe, our borders aren't protected, 8 trillion in deficits that the President doesn't even talk about. You guys make me laugh. You remind me of a guy that talks about how good in bed he is, but when some hotty takes him to task, your kind just goes limp. Waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaaaaa.

As to me- I'm actually a bald 3 toed sloth with bad acne that believes in the ant god. (interpretation- doesn't matter what I am- 1) I disagree with your views, as I think they're from a position of ignorance and blind devotion to a liberal viewpoint; 2) Your cut and paste antics show me that you spend way too much time finding snippets of information to support your ludricous allegations, and not enough time really thinking before speaking.)

Talking about registering dead people to vote?? I thought sloths weren't allowed??

Well listen Socalgn....um..... er..... Mr. Sloth. You can't seem to debate me point to point, so you just lower yourself to character assasination. Pretty childish and immature if you ask me. But it's ok. I like toying with little minds like yours. Makes me understand where the "conservative mindset" comes from. And now I know that there is a definite problem with the way they are wired. It really doesn't take me much time to distroy your arguements. I think my 20 year old nephew could easily take you on. But it gives me something to do when I'm not busy playing X-box in my air conditioned office.

Originally Posted by SoCalGn

To answer your question-"what are you, SoCalGN?"

I am an American- I have taken up arms in the defense of this country, and would gladly do so again so ignorant apes like yourself and weester continue to have the right to spew your crap without the fear of reprisal.

I believe in this country enough to die for it. You seem to be so open minded that your brain leaked out.

Was I just insulted?? Hey Weester?? Did he just insult me??

That hurt (sniff). Now I'm gonna have to cry......

BWAAAAHHHHHAAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAH!! !!!!!!

Aw.... poor fella. Although I respect you for serving your country, you can thank me for the massive taxes I pay as a business owner and land owner that went to pay for your military service job.

I too will defend my country IF WE ARE ATTACKED!!! Just because you served in the military, doesn't make you any better than me. As a matter of fact, I would rather fight them over here than over there. Because over here, they would be sure to be killed. And I'm not a ***** like most of the big talkers are about war. I've seen it, I've lived it, and where I grew up might have well as been Beirut. And yes... we were attacked on 9-11. Not by Saddam Husain or Iraq, but Al-Queda. Do you understand the difference?? No... probably not. But that's ok.

I won't brag about how my dad went to war to protect your measly hide like you do with me. But if someone elists... it's for their own reasons. Just remember one of those reasons is to keep alive what we beleive in. Democracy, Freedom, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I would do it without one thank you from anyone and I feel that's the way it should be. You do it for your own reasons. Not for a pat on the back.

[SouthernCal GN]

I feel for you, oh 10th grade dropout.....it's quite sad to think that the libs have you as an advocate...

kind of like a fish laying on the ground.....flip flop, flip flop, flip flip...........

[JSAautomotive]

Originally Posted by GNandGS

No no no. See you dont understand they were Republicans then!

One of them only used the term "white n****r" after becoming a Democrat.

This "change" can only apply to Democrats though... Republicans <cough> I mean Conservatives, were always evil. Wait there is more...

If your ancestors did something that might be percieved as anti-jew or aligned with Nazi's then you too are evil like a Nazi because Republicans, err, Conservatives are unable to change. No matter that a Jewish organization disagrees with the charge - if the formerly Republican Liberal Democrats say so its true! Of course if you were a Liberal Republican (?) turned Democrat (?) your KKK ties are forgotten and forgiven.

Now even though people change and the parties no longer represent what they used to Kennedy was always a modern Liberal Democrat! Ahead of his time you might say.

JS nobody will disagree that "things change" but you can just grab snippets of history to suite "the moment". The fact are what they are. The Southern Manifesto is an stain on our history and there should be NOBODY willing to be tied to that today... to deny however that the mindset was made up of Democrats OF WHICH SOME STILL SERVE is crazy. To even imply that they would be Republicans today is just stupid.... many served in the late 60s the 70's and yes even the 80s... as Democrats.

Strom whom the Dems love to throw out as the Republican racist SWITCHED parties in the 60's. Same year as the Civil Rights act. This must be what you mean by "change". This might mean to the simple minded that Republicans are indeed made up of racist... but that takes us back to Byrd.

Point taken.......

It's nice when you start to use some logic from time to time.

Yes... things do change. And politcal parties change their themes, focuses, and platforms as things change.

What is making Lieberman run as an Independant now?? Because he's desparate. He doesn't even follow the indies platform on the war issue. But like I said.... you can smell the stench of a conservative from miles away. You might say he voted on party lines on most things.... but the war in Iraq was a big one. And in this day and age.... after the President himself has said he was wrong about the intelligence, how can anybody with a brain not hold this POS accountable. Bush should have gotten impeached over this a long time ago.

Religiously fundamentalist Conservatives are scarey.. seedy people. They've got that good ol religion music playin in the background, they still have their Confederate flags a waivin, and they're still as much in neanderthal mode as is the cockroach. Usually not educated, and if they are, didn't learn much when the teacher was talkin (remember that story I posted about Bush and his professor?? Bottom 10% of the class. What a loser. And was given his education on a silver platter. What a total loser.

[JSAautomotive]

Originally Posted by SouthernCal GN

I feel for you, oh 10th grade dropout.....it's quite sad to think that the libs have you as an advocate...

kind of like a fish laying on the ground.....flip flop, flip flop, flip flip...........

Ah.... more of "I don't know how to debate...... I can't debate John because I'm scared to take him on point by point".

So you succumb to the typical tactic of someone who lost. Insults.

Hey?? So you're a Muslim and you were in the mideast?? Tell us oh great military warrior!! lol!!

[SouthernCal GN]

Oh, yes, I don't believe you'd defend this country against attackers....you'd be too busy googling up a response to the threat, to see if it fit your agenda.

Elitist extreme liberals a a scarier bunch....acting without forethought and with mailce, usually overeducated to the point of mental lockup-hence the wishy washy take on topics.

[UNGN]

Originally Posted by JSAautomotive

What is making Lieberman run as an Independant now?? Because he's desparate.

Lieberman is Desparate? He has a Double digit lead on Lamont.

What are you going to say when he cleans Lamont's clock?

It was Diebold? Only Democrats should be allowed to vote for Democrats?

The moonbats picked their man... and when he loses, whose fault will it be?

You don't have to answer, I know what they will say: It was someone elses fault.

[JSAautomotive]

Originally Posted by JSAautomotive

Ah.... more of "I don't know how to debate...... I can't debate John because I'm scared to take him on point by point".

So you succumb to the typical tactic of someone who lost. Insults.

Hey?? So you're a Muslim and you were in the mideast?? Tell us oh great military warrior!! lol!!

Wow!!! For a big bad military guy you sure are scared to answer any questions. Cat got your tongue?? Or better yet?? Were you the head latrine duty guy?? Or did you even learn to fire a gun??

[Red Regal T]

Originally Posted by JSAautomotive

Religiously fundamentalist Conservatives are scarey.. seedy people. They've got that good ol religion music playin in the background, they still have their Confederate flags a waivin, and they're still as much in neanderthal mode as is the cockroach. Usually not educated, and if they are, didn't learn much when the teacher was talkin (remember that story I posted about Bush and his professor?? Bottom 10% of the class. What a loser. And was given his education on a silver platter. What a total loser.

I wouldn't know about these religious fundamentalists you and weeser keep bringing up. Where do you guys go in Kalifornia to find them? What's scary are the collaborators with the enemies of the US. You certainly know a lot of them.

[JSAautomotive]

Originally Posted by UNGN

Lieberman is Desparate? He has a Double digit lead on Lamont.

What are you going to say when he cleans Lamont's clock?

It was Diebold? Only Democrats should be allowed to vote for Democrats?

The moonbats picked their man... and when he loses, whose fault will it be?

You don't have to answer, I know what they will say: It was someone elses fault.

Ok there UNGN..... you've got the ball. Now run with it.

You're party won big 2 times in a row right?? Please tell us your "plan" for Iraq?? Be specific. Let us know "EXACTLY" whats in the cards?? What exactly are we going to do to stabilize the country and the region?? Tell us exactly how you're party is going to pay back the 8 trillion in debt that we didn't have when Clinton was around?? Tell me oh great conservative about how this President and your "supposed" conservative (said loosley) Republitards are keeping our borders and ports safe??

Yeah.... big man. Win election. Now your party is the "limp dick" party. Do they make political viagra for situations like this?? lol!!

[JSAautomotive]

Originally Posted by Red Regal T

I wouldn't know about these religious fundamentalists you and weeser keep bringing up. Where do you guys go in Kalifornia to find them? What's scary are the collaborators with the enemies of the US. You certainly know a lot of them.

Uh..... note to Red.

Your one of them.

Need some viagra too??

[GNandGS]

"or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

Thats the start of the problem. This statement by definition already RESPECTS religion.

[Skylark-69]

Originally Posted by GNandGS

"or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

Thats the start of the problem. This statement by definition already RESPECTS religion.

JSA is an athiest. That's how he lives with himself for lying here and ripping off his customers.