Problem in political forum

[Red Regal T]

You guys know what the problem is, and it's your responsibility to take care of it. Same problem that's been going on forever. That's the troll. You allow the troll to screw up the threads by posting offensive photos and he doesn't even state his case, and never has. I don't see why one person, or any number of persons are allowed to screw up this forum for the rest of the board members. You need to start banning problem posters.

[bruce]

Originally Posted by Red Regal T

You guys know what the problem is, and it's your responsibility to take care of it. Same problem that's been going on forever. That's the troll. You allow the troll to screw up the threads by posting offensive photos and he doesn't even state his case, and never has. I don't see why one person, or any number of persons are allowed to screw up this forum for the rest of the board members. You need to start banning problem posters.

Ya, but if their agenda matches the trolls, it just ain't gonna happen.
The first victim usually it the truth, and that's been shown to be true here.

Odd, that the original whiners about being able to have a free for all type forum, are the trolls, and when they won, the ability to tell the truth died with it.

I'm sure we'll here the if you don't like don't post. Which is just a lame attempt at covering their tracks, er agenda. Shame, having to sideline Fast wtih Class, to cater to the whiners, self defined cowards, liars, and those that have no appreciation for what it means to be slandered by the likes of Kerry, and others. Yep, it's easy to ignore the opinions of those that BTDT, for the arm chair whiners.........

[PM99]

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[BlownZ]

Originally Posted by Red Regal T

You guys know what the problem is, and it's your responsibility to take care of it. Same problem that's been going on forever. That's the troll. You allow the troll to screw up the threads by posting offensive photos and he doesn't even state his case, and never has. I don't see why one person, or any number of persons are allowed to screw up this forum for the rest of the board members. You need to start banning problem posters.

Red I agree that any number of people shouldn't be allowed to screw up the forum.

I don't agree with a single thing Qwik posts...but I simply ignore him. He has zero significance to the way I think and if he posts a stupid cartoon it matters NOTHING to me....but some have to respond....like a fly trying to get out of a window...no matter how many times they smack against the glass...they keep right on trying.

I agree maybe that something needs to be done but I still have to say I prefer it this way than the way it was a year ago when everyone was being banned for even the mildest of rule infractions. Maybe it has gone too far the other way.

Every single thread seems to derail around a combination of three posters in this forum. If it ever gets ugly and becomes stupid...some combination of the three are present...so maybe all three get banned? I don't know...I will contact Jesse and see what he thinks. We have discussed it numerous times and we always arrive back at the fact that it should be very simple for people to control who or what they are exposed to....like turning the channel on the TV or putting someone on Ignore.

I'll let you know what we decide on in a few days.

[Drew L]

It should be very simple......if I got banned for repeating a trouble makers own words then got banned for USING the word troll

it's ok to be a troll but ssshhhhh...........don't use the word troll



wow............................................... .........eyes down

[BlownZ]

Drew.....do you think that's the best way for this forum to be run? I don't.

[Drew L]

I am making an illustration of the banning inequity............so I am in agreement with you

[The Blob]

Originally Posted by BlownZ

....but some have to respond....like a fly trying to get out of a window...no matter how many times they smack against the glass...they keep right on trying.

Maybe it has gone too far the other way.

No, it has not.

Every single thread seems to derail around a combination of three posters in this forum.

And yet people only complain about two of them... the other skates by

I'll let you know what we decide on in a few days.

Hopefully you decide to do nothing. It's fine the way it is.

Sometimes I think you are a bit too quick to pull the trigger on a thread, though. The unemployment one is a good example. Qwik's post was actually on topic and people calling him a retard is nothing out of the norm.

I'll admit the thread was probably headed for the toilet, but it hadn't gotten there yet and should have been given more of a chance... IMO, of course.

[The Blob]

Originally Posted by Red Regal T

You guys know what the problem is, and it's your responsibility to take care of it. Same problem that's been going on forever. That's the troll. You allow the troll to screw up the threads by posting offensive photos and he doesn't even state his case, and never has. I don't see why one person, or any number of persons are allowed to screw up this forum for the rest of the board members. You need to start banning problem posters.

Qwik posts cartoons so he can watch his trained seal jump up on the box and bark... and it never fails to work.

I think it's amusing... and obviously so does Qwik.

So if so-called trolls are ruining threads, the troll enablers are equally to blame.

[1QWIK6]

Wow... What a bunch of cry babies... If it isn't a NEO-CON PRO-BUSH thread or ATTACKING LIBERALS AND DEMOCRATES, it's Trolling...

Afraid of anything except what LYING RUSH LIMBUAGH, FAUX NEWS or BUSH PR tells you. If you don't like what I say, be a big-boy and deal with it.

Don't continually cry to the mods...

[bruce]

Originally Posted by 1QWIK6

Wow... What a bunch of cry babies... If it isn't a NEO-CON PRO-BUSH thread or ATTACKING LIBERALS AND DEMOCRATES, it's Trolling...

Afraid of anything except what LYING RUSH LIMBUAGH, FAUX NEWS or BUSH PR tells you. If you don't like what I say, be a big-boy and deal with it.

Don't continually cry to the mods...

Oh it's so nice getting the opinion of a self defined coward, and some one that claims to have a higher education. LMAO

BTW, you are a troll, name one original intelligent thought you've posted, your SOP is posting and then running. No big surprise on the running, or not being able to post back with something intelligent. If it wasn't for your cut and pasting you post count would be in the single digits, and as for any that reflect any really thought or understanding of any of the subject matter at hand, you're often at least poorly informed, if not totally ignorant on the matter.

For someone that has an alleged *higher education* you never contribute anything to the TR community, all you do is whine, lie, and brag about yourself on the PV forum. Come on get out of the troll mode, and try contributing, maybe in the Tech area, and do something positive, instead of take cheap shots at the folks that are trying to actually contribute.

You even clueless about what the difference is between an *war era vet*, and *someone that was a combatant*. Please, if you want to comment here, at least do so in an somewhat informed manner. While you're so eager to accuse others of being liars, that's only to try in some febble for you to try and get out of the spotlight of being the worst liar around here, OK, maybe you're just tied with the wannabe-SEAL.

Big Boy, ya, that's what we'd expect from you to say, ie, that is you don't have a clue about being a man. It was so sweet seeing you define yourself as being a coward. Thanks, that is just PRICELESS....

The only reason you're here, is the mods seem to be more worried about their post count, and the abandonment of *Fast with Class* is all that allows you and your fellow liars to even post here. It's sad seeing them not caring enough to take a stand for being truthful or honest anymore. Even *support out toops* is misunderstood by you, and the mods, and neither can be bothered to do any research about what's really at hand. Again, that's just plain sad.

Cry to then mods?, coming from someone that sits in MI, and whines without so much as lifting a finger to make this forum or the world a better place just further defines you as not having a clue about what's been handed you. You act just like a pre-teen, and sit there lapping up the luxuries, and freedoms other have died for. But, honesty, integrity, are abstract terms to you, from what you've been demonstrating so far. Come on, Mr Higher Education, buck up and step to the plate with something meaningful. Cut and pasting cartoons at your age, seems to again show, just how little signifigance you see things. Just like your single minded, thought challenged repetition about Bush lying, you're still clueless about the sanctions, and US fighters that were being shot at.

Cry, LOL, I'd like to see you under fire.....
You whine while sitting at a keyboard, one can only imagine how you'd act if anything serious happened *near* you. Not to mention how you consider Kerry a hero for 3 paper cuts, ya, cry, LOL. Your hero is just such a real piece of work.

Is this a rant?, nope, just tired of seeing the *Fast with Class* motto trashed by so many. Somehow lies are being treated with the same *respect* as honesty, now that's a sad joke, and an extremely sad state of affairs, IMO.

[Red Regal T]

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[The Blob]

Originally Posted by Red Regal T

Well, the problem is, MORON, you don't say anything. How about some cogent opinion of your own? I know, I know, you're too damn stupid to have a rational conversation.........not that liberals are rational, but they can have conversations. Your only motive is to disrupt threads and troll. I really don't see what all the problem is about. YOU SHOULD BE BANNED, OR SHUTDOWN THIS GODDAMN FORUM.

[bruce]

Originally Posted by BlownZ

Red I agree that any number of people shouldn't be allowed to screw up the forum.

I don't agree with a single thing Qwik posts...but I simply ignore him.

I agree maybe that something needs to be done but I still have to say I prefer it this way than the way it was a year ago when everyone was being banned for even the mildest of rule infractions. Maybe it has gone too far the other way.

Every single thread seems to derail around a combination of three posters in this forum. If it ever gets ugly and becomes stupid...some combination of the three are present...so maybe all three get banned? I don't know...I will contact Jesse and see what he thinks. We have discussed it numerous times and we always arrive back at the fact that it should be very simple for people to control who or what they are exposed to....like turning the channel on the TV or putting someone on Ignore.

I'll let you know what we decide on in a few days.

But, still do nothing.

While you do nothing, by your lack of action, endorce his, I know you like to deny that, but maybe you'll catch on sometime. You might try reading the Gentle Art of Interrogation, to get a handle on the issue.

Ya, and now we have a real free for all, where lies are accepted as equally as the truth, now that's an interesting concept. Well just as far as your concerned.

Ugly and stupid?, what for exposing the liars, for who they are?. Maybe, if you'd be more willing to understand what others have done to make this country as great as it is, you wouldn't so completely and totally endorse those that lie, and tell half truths about it.

If you want to elect not to hold others responsible for their lies, fine, but, don't make your lack of wanting to do the *right thing*, someone else's issue. It's easy to sit and do nothing, it takes some moxie to get off one's butt, and start making the tough decisions. *tough*, meaning actually doing something more then just playing moderator.

IMO, at least in the old forum, the mods didn't make excuses for those that didn't contribute, in any way shape or form. IMO, the forum went south when the mod started allowing those that couldn't be bothered with rules, to have free run. Or do you remember that?. You have noone to complain to about name calling, since you endorse it. BTW, do you remember your comments about the cops, coming in only after the damage was done?, interesting isn't it how you claimed that they did that...........

[bruce]

Originally Posted by The Blob

I think it's amusing... and obviously so does Qwik.

Nice seeing that you're amused by the same things, but that's no real surprise.

[Drew L]

stating FACTS is not crying but you wouldn't know anything about that...............facts that is

[1QWIK6]

Originally Posted by bruce

Oh it's so nice getting the opinion of a self defined coward, and some one that claims to have a higher education. LMAO

BTW, you are a troll, name one original intelligent thought you've posted, your SOP is posting and then running. No big surprise on the running, or not being able to post back with something intelligent. If it wasn't for your cut and pasting you post count would be in the single digits, and as for any that reflect any really thought or understanding of any of the subject matter at hand, you're often at least poorly informed, if not totally ignorant on the matter.

For someone that has an alleged *higher education* you never contribute anything to the TR community, all you do is whine, lie, and brag about yourself on the PV forum. Come on get out of the troll mode, and try contributing, maybe in the Tech area, and do something positive, instead of take cheap shots at the folks that are trying to actually contribute.

You even clueless about what the difference is between an *war era vet*, and *someone that was a combatant*. Please, if you want to comment here, at least do so in an somewhat informed manner. While you're so eager to accuse others of being liars, that's only to try in some febble for you to try and get out of the spotlight of being the worst liar around here, OK, maybe you're just tied with the wannabe-SEAL.

Big Boy, ya, that's what we'd expect from you to say, ie, that is you don't have a clue about being a man. It was so sweet seeing you define yourself as being a coward. Thanks, that is just PRICELESS....

The only reason you're here, is the mods seem to be more worried about their post count, and the abandonment of *Fast with Class* is all that allows you and your fellow liars to even post here. It's sad seeing them not caring enough to take a stand for being truthful or honest anymore. Even *support out toops* is misunderstood by you, and the mods, and neither can be bothered to do any research about what's really at hand. Again, that's just plain sad.

Cry to then mods?, coming from someone that sits in MI, and whines without so much as lifting a finger to make this forum or the world a better place just further defines you as not having a clue about what's been handed you. You act just like a pre-teen, and sit there lapping up the luxuries, and freedoms other have died for. But, honesty, integrity, are abstract terms to you, from what you've been demonstrating so far. Come on, Mr Higher Education, buck up and step to the plate with something meaningful. Cut and pasting cartoons at your age, seems to again show, just how little signifigance you see things. Just like your single minded, thought challenged repetition about Bush lying, you're still clueless about the sanctions, and US fighters that were being shot at.

Cry, LOL, I'd like to see you under fire.....
You whine while sitting at a keyboard, one can only imagine how you'd act if anything serious happened *near* you. Not to mention how you consider Kerry a hero for 3 paper cuts, ya, cry, LOL. Your hero is just such a real piece of work.

Is this a rant?, nope, just tired of seeing the *Fast with Class* motto trashed by so many. Somehow lies are being treated with the same *respect* as honesty, now that's a sad joke, and an extremely sad state of affairs, IMO.

Bruce, is this what you mean by "mature" and "intelligent"????

ACTUAL REPLY FROM "MATURE & INTELLIGENT" CUT AND PASTE BRUCE
As far as cut and postes go, here's one for you.

Sung to the Rawhide theme:

Trollin, trollin, trollin, Qwik just keeps on trollin, unstable and foamin,
says Bush lied!
Ignores the facts whenever
Full of it forever
No decency and likes to lie
Unable to listen
The left's ass he's kissin
His illness he's unable to hide

MoveOnorg, make it up
Make it up, MoveOnorg
MoveOnorg, make it up

Qwik LIES!!!!!

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Part II

Trollin, trollin, trollin, Qwik just keeps on trollin, unstable and foamin,
says Bush lied!
Ignores the facts whenever
Full of it forever
No decency and likes to lie
Unable to listen
The left's ass he's kissin
His illness he's unable to hide

MoveOnorg, make it up
Make it up, MoveOnorg
MoveOnorg, make it up

Qwik LIES!!!!!

Keeps losin, losin, losin
his claims are disproven
TB he's pollutin
Qwik LIED
Don't try to understand him
A loon you can brand him
A coward who just wants to hide
Mindless emulatin
Must parrot Move On's hatin
Can't think for himself cause his brain's fried

Before you point fingers BRUCE... check yourself... your pretty much a HYPOCRITIC