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Old November 17th, 2007, 08:43 PM
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Old November 17th, 2007, 09:40 PM
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Nice looking car Flip. . . . Any times that the previous owner had?
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Old November 17th, 2007, 09:48 PM
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Nice looking car Flip. . . . Any times that the previous owner had?
Hi Live4Boost. Yes, previous owner ran a 10.12 at 133 mph and that was with a failing water pump back then. It has way more in it.

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Old November 17th, 2007, 09:55 PM
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Old November 17th, 2007, 10:16 PM
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Thumbs up Congrats on the purchase.
Flip,

Looks like you found another great streetable Stage2 ride! I have personally seen this car when it was owned by the late Fred Borthwick and it is a super clean ride Hold on to this one for a little while.
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Old November 17th, 2007, 10:29 PM
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Looks like you found another great streetable Stage2 ride! I have personally seen this car when it was owned by the late Fred Borthwick and it is a super clean ride Hold on to this one for a little while.
Thanks and yes, I will. I will not be nieve this time and give this one up. My first Stage 2 and maybe my last hopefully, as I have every intention of holding on to it for a while.

The good thing about it is, the car still has room to grow. Cal was already trying to get me to put on a 42-76 turbo and go bust mid-to-low 9s at the strip. I think before changing anything I'll fully test the limits of this 74Q turbo. The future looks good. The great thing I like is the car has a working AC with Twilight Sentinel.

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Very nice , do you have a motor picture ?
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Old November 18th, 2007, 07:31 AM
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Very nice , do you have a motor picture ?
I have to take some updated PICs, but here is one (little fuzzy).

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Congratulations Flip! You will not be disappointed. I know this car inside and out and have a bunch of great memories because of it. It is a 100% streetable Stage 2 car with a lot of potential.
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Old November 18th, 2007, 08:21 AM
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Congratulations Flip! You will not be disappointed. I know this car inside and out and have a bunch of great memories because of it. It is a 100% streetable Stage 2 car with a lot of potential.
Hi Cal. I tried to call you a couple of times just to say thanks for all your help in finding this baby. But as usual, you were busy, busy, busy or out and about. I owe it to you, otherwise, I wouldn't have found this car.

I stated in the ad in the Stage II tech that it was Dutt built but assembled and tuned by Hartline Performance. Hmmmmmmmmmm, 42-76???

Thanks Man

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Awesome car Flip!

Guys that know the car, I am wondering how that atr air to liquid IC does with that much motor?
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Old November 18th, 2007, 01:53 PM
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Thanks guys for the compliments. You all know how long and hard I have been looking for a reputable Stage II car. I almost lost interest in finding one, then all of a sudden I was reinvigorated to keep looking.

The cat now is out of the bag as I came very very close to buying a fellow Ohioan's Stage II, then this one came along and Cal gave me the hookup.

I have a few modifications in mind already, starting with the engine bay.

Hey, if I was to run this car competitively during the points series, what GN class could I run in?

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Old November 18th, 2007, 08:32 PM
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Not yet but I will be taking some soon and will post a few.

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Hey, if I was to run this car competitively during the points series, what GN class could I run in?

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Unfortunately because of the Liquid IC the answer is none of them If you switched to an air-air you could run TSE, TSL, or TSO.

BTW, Thanks for those pics that car still looks amazingly clean!!!!
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Hey Flip is the turbo a 3 or 4 bolt? That will also make a difference for what class you can run in.
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Flipmo,
You certainly have scored a super nice car there. Im a little sad that it was sold but you know the history behind this car and can understand why. I hope you keep it for a long time and enjoy it. This was Freds baby and he treated it as such. Cal knows the car inside out. I lent a hand a few times in it.

BTW I have video of the 10 sec run. Unfortunately is in super high res on my PC . Id have to find a way to convert it.
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Old November 22nd, 2007, 09:29 AM
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Hey Flip is the turbo a 3 or 4 bolt? That will also make a difference for what class you can run in.
See ya, Kip
Hey Kip, it has a 4-bolt turbo in it. I plan on taking some more PICs after our meal today. I finally went all through the car yesterday, and this car has some major parts on it - Not what I'm use to.

Liquid Intercooler
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Old November 22nd, 2007, 09:37 AM
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You certainly have scored a super nice car there. Im a little sad that it was sold but you know the history behind this car and can understand why. I hope you keep it for a long time and enjoy it. This was Freds baby and he treated it as such. Cal knows the car inside out. I lent a hand a few times in it.

BTW I have video of the 10 sec run. Unfortunately is in super high res on my PC . Id have to find a way to convert it.
Louie, man I would love to have that video. Is there anyway that you can Zip it and send or compress it and post it here on the website? Let me know and thanks.

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Great looking car. What part of OH are you in?
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Great looking car. What part of OH are you in?
I'm in Lima, about 120 miles from you. Come on down.
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Flip, the 4 bolt turbo knocks you out of TSE and the liquid intercooler kills you from the rest.
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Well, sounds like the Buick Classes need to grant exceptions for Liquid Intercoolers - Just Kidding.

Hey, why is a LI the kiss of death - Honestly? What's makes it not acceptable at the Buick points series meets? Well, I know I can run all night long during test and tune and all day during the bracket races.

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I'm in Lima, about 120 miles from you. Come on down.
Nice ride.

Will you be racing it at Quaker City? I race there sometimes.
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I have converted the video just looking for a place to post it.

BTW all that car needs is a AIR to AIR IC and you can run TSL.
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Old November 22nd, 2007, 10:39 PM
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I have converted the video just looking for a place to post it.

BTW all that car needs is a AIR to AIR IC and you can run TSL.
Thanks Louie. Hey, is there anyway you can send me the file. Can you not post the video link here? TSL, o.k. I'll look that class up myself for the particulars.

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Nice ride.

Will you be racing it at Quaker City? I race there sometimes.
Hi. No, I don't so. I'm about 200 miles from Salem, Ohio. I like races but not traveling that far to do it. Well, take that back, other than the Buick events there, I don't think so.

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have you some pics about the headLight protection ?
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