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Supra TT
What is the 1/4 mile time on a supra TT that is stock? There is a guy my borther works with that has one with some mods. Nothin too important or he would have braged about it. Something tells me I am in for an eventual showdown with this car. I want to know what I am up against. What I need to have on my car before the encounter.
I think all I will have is the Fuel pump hot wired, cond filter, Ajustable fuel pressure regulator, 1/2 tank the highest octane I can find, and 18-22lbs of boost(well actually whatever I can get with out knock), and a good tune. So, can I do it?
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06 Torch Red Mustang GT 5-Speed, Hurst Shifter, C&L CAI, JBA Long Tube Headers and High Flow Catted H-Pipe, Borlas and Custom Tune by Evolution Performance. Used to own 89 TTA #1053 Other Toys and projects as well |
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a vaccume hose can make those cars go mid 12s?
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06 Torch Red Mustang GT 5-Speed, Hurst Shifter, C&L CAI, JBA Long Tube Headers and High Flow Catted H-Pipe, Borlas and Custom Tune by Evolution Performance. Used to own 89 TTA #1053 Other Toys and projects as well |
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Stock Supra TT run in the mid-low 13. And like said before we all know that whats in common with a 400hp Supra and a 600hp one are both 12 sec timeslip
Joke apart, like said by wiked87gn race him fron a dead stop. Those things are pretty strong on races from a roll. Get some good sticky tires (Nitto or BFDR) and boost a good 5 psi and launch that thing. If he's on street tires he will never be able to keep up with you. Just get the basic mods - upgrade fuel pump - fuel pressure regulator - ajustable wastegate - good chip - crank up the boost with good gas
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87 Black T : 17k miles, TE61, ATR Delta Gate, ATR 3" DP, ATR 3" Single Shot, ATR Stainless Headers, Heavy Ported & Polished Heads, 1.65 Roller Rockers, Kenne Bell Intake, 70mm TB, Duttweiler FM Intercooler, NOS N-Tercooler, Siemens 83#, Walbro 340GS FP & In Line FP, Race Build Art Carr 200-4R, 9" Non LU 3500, Dynotech Aluminum Driveshaft, Hotchkiss Upper & Lower Control Arms, ATR 1 3/8, 275/50/15 DR 87 White T : 29k miles, Ajustable Wastegate, 3" DP, Dual 2.5" Exhaust, JJ Port Match 62mm TB, Kenne Bell FM Intercooler, Siemens 55#, ATR 7th Injector, Walbro 340GS FP, ATR Aluminum Driveshaft, Metco Upper & Lower Control Arms, ATR 1 3/8, 275/50/15 DR |
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most of the stock 1/4 mile times for supras stock i see are 13.5-13.8. wiked87gn is right, they cant hook up well. i saw one once w/~835 RWHP that ran mid 11's @ 135 mph on street tires. 835 HP GN is in the 9s. i might suggest getting an alky kit so you can run him anytime on the street and not have to get racegas in it to beat him.
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1987 Grand National ALMOST DONE |
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some numbers
- my friend Peter Humblias' Supra MKIV, from his sig:
94 RSP T76BB Built Motor/ Tranny Supra 507 RWHP on PUMP gas (16psi) 675 RWHP on low boost (26psi) and race gas 11.3 at 130 mph w/NO launch, 3800 #'s, 2.265 60ft, and unlocked TC - Whenever you race a Supra, good luck lol
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- Dan Goldstein - 1998 Honda Prelude |
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I watched a supra with a single T-78 turbo (I had just spoken to the owner) fishtail through a parking lot and hit a shopping cart. *d'oh* Hurt a very beautiful car. This guy had a 897rwhp dyno sheet and actually got into the 10s. once.
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i "love" a lot of cars, i own a turbo buick. its not my first choice, but i own it.
why am i on the board, don't know..i guess you could look at one or some of my other 350-ish posts/replies, etc.. other than that, i am begining to think the majority of turbo buick owners are PITA's they b!!ch and moan about all kinds of crap, want everything NOW ... as for the Supra people, I've gotten to know a lil bit about them and the GTR Skylines... in respect to Nissan, what domestic auto manufacturer sets up a think-tank team to spend 4.5 years developing a engine? Result: RB26DTT, look it up, its the most power-capable engine on the planet right now, bar-none. oh, and when your car's performance market originates over seas, you pay big money for good parts and you sometimes have to wait months.. like 6-9+ months for the stuff. Here in turbo buick land, people moan about a few months because they can't understand that when a CNC pipe bender breaks down it isn't usually a overnight fix. back to performance, What is respectable, I think Tony Gomez (sp?) full-weight, AC, full interior 8-second SG2 TT Grand National. That is impressive performance. Also, Terry Pennington of Mishawaka, IN Camaro with the detuned ZL-1 running 11.48, 1.82 60' on Coker Goodyear Polyglas G70-14s, Konis shocks, no cage, no frame stiffeners, he's in the Factory Appearing Drags circuit. I also think an import that has excellent physics, braking, handling and acceleration and aftermarket improvs, isn't anything to snuff at. Especially when they can push well over 1000rwhp out of the STOCK production engine block with bolt-ons. Also, my car is NOT fast, its a daily driver and its not tuned to race.. its tuned to get me around reliably.. sans crashing into a ford ranger p/u and a lamp post.. but other than that, it goes good ![]()
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The usually et time I see on a Supra is 13.4 secs.
In Sweden, we had a 10.41 Supra and a 10.68 Supra last season. The 10.41 Supra went to Norway for sale.... Guess thats Norways fastest Supra now then ![]() We also has a GMC Syclon 4x4 that does 10.68... The fastest 4x4 syclone in the world according to the owner. Daniel
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Here in Tucson there are many impressive Supras, One just dynoed at 905rwhp yeah its a 10 sec car easly. You have to be careful with supras brecause usually they are owned by people with huge bank accounts and even bigger Turbos. Also the guys here are all exrtemely good tuners and vare good with any turbo car. Much respect to all fast cars especially one that looks that good. Also all the supra owners I have meet ave been really cool and are not oblivious to Turbo Buicks.
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1989 Turbo T/A # 1457 SOLD!!! Looking for another Turbo Buick. There is a replacement for displacement it's called technology. |
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Side notes:
1. Owner of this supra is a Prison guard. Not too fat of a wallet, depending on what he spends it on. 2. Worlds Fastest Supra 9.0XX, on the cover of some import Magazine last month I saw on a Newstand. I am sorry. If I was making 1000hp... I sure would hope to be turning in something better that a 9.
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06 Torch Red Mustang GT 5-Speed, Hurst Shifter, C&L CAI, JBA Long Tube Headers and High Flow Catted H-Pipe, Borlas and Custom Tune by Evolution Performance. Used to own 89 TTA #1053 Other Toys and projects as well |
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Run the TTA to almost empty. Then fill up with 1/4 a tank(usually $5) of sonoco 94 go to sherwin williams paints and pick up a gallon of Xylene throw in 1 capfull of marvel mystery oil or similar product(lubes the fuel system). That should give you enough octane tolerance to get 20 psi out of without knock. Either brake boost on the line or go from a roll with him(no more than 15-20 mph though) and you should be fine if he's stock.
Remember peak hp numbers arent everything. What good is having 850 hp at 6000 when your making 400 every other part of the rpm band. Give me tourqe or give me death!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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1989 TTA# 656 Parted SOLD! 1986 WH1 Stock SOLD! 1989 TTA# 1240 SOLD! 12.0@ 114mph with a leaky alky pump and pushing past the hg's! |
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Something tells me it wouldnt make much of a difference on drag tires. Those cars are limited by their suspension ans chassis design from what I understand. Its set up more for all around performance rather than drag.
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06 Torch Red Mustang GT 5-Speed, Hurst Shifter, C&L CAI, JBA Long Tube Headers and High Flow Catted H-Pipe, Borlas and Custom Tune by Evolution Performance. Used to own 89 TTA #1053 Other Toys and projects as well |
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http://www.speedtoys.com/~daveh/93na-t/
He hasn't posted new slip yet, but his best 60ft was 1.4 on DOT slicks. You'll never meet a nicer "rice boy". ![]() |
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http://store.yahoo.net/wotmstore/
Heres whats driving around Tucson some times. One of the many reasons I give supra owners much respect. O yeah cars even got a full stereo and no cage.
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1989 Turbo T/A # 1457 SOLD!!! Looking for another Turbo Buick. There is a replacement for displacement it's called technology. |
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well no offense but i got some questions and arguments for you with these 2 posts if the nissan block is the most power then wouldnt mean its has the highest potential to go fast? yet I dont recall the imports ahead of domestics when it comes to drag racing? in the comparison to the supra and the TR how about we do an even comparison of apples to apples why not compare the 87 supra with the 87 TR? how come no one ever does that comparison, they always compare their best model? lets take in perspective the technology of the TR in this time period obviously its very ahead of its time, so even though this is a dumb assumption but what if that technology progressed as much as the 87 supras did? whos really has more technology supra has a forged bottom end, so lets compare it with a TR with forged bottom end? Im not knocking the supra I think its an awesome car but lets make even comparisons see my drift here? on a side note and this is not to be offensive just a question though if you were just owning the car for the reliablity why would you buy an atleast 11 sec combo of parts for the car? if you wanted reliablity couldnt you have gotten a dodge aspen or something with a slant 6? |
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I don't think it will handle 6000hp like our Top Fuel and NHRA guys are. And they use blowers, not turbos(which means there is a hell of a lot more power there to be had). And don't forget that Stage II Buicks have already broken the 1600hp barrier and sub-7sec times. And apparently you haven't heard of the Bugatti Veyron. W16 cylinder, quad turbocharged, all-wheel drive with 7-speed gearbox road rocket. 1006hp and 9XX ft.lb. torque from the factory. And even with 16 cylinders, it's still about the size of an average V8. This is the most advanced vehicle on the road, bud. So advanced that only 50 a year are being built. 50/50 weight distribution and an extremely low center of gravity assures this baby can handle too. Back on topic.... The supra's have BILLET steel bottom ends(one reason for their high pricetag). Some supras can drag too. I've heard on more than one occasion of guys switching to a live rear axle with auto and high stall. Just hope you don't find one of them. ![]() One last note.....Never doubt an American made sports car, we have the best aftermarkets in the world Bar-none.
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