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November 19th, 2007, 11:24 AM
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Series2 engines VS GN engine? For Hybrids or Non Hybrids.
I'm building a turbo kit for a customer on his 98 Camaro. It's got a series 2
3.8L in it. We pulled the oil pan to put the drain line in and found all the main caps were steel and the center 2 had outer bolts on the side of the block that held them in place! NICE!!! There may be a thread on this already but I was wondering what all the differences between the series 2 and the GN engines are? Could a series 2 be fitted with GN heads/intake? There's alot of benifits to going with a series 2 engine it looks like from seeing the internals of these motors... steel mains,factory roller cam to start with. What all would be involved in using this engine instead of the GN's in a RWD platform? Adaptor plate...? Would that be needed or is the bolt pattern the same? This could help someone that wants to build a Hybrid but can't find a GN engine... or want to do it cheaper since these series 2 engines are plentyfull and cheap right now. Just a thought,  Thanks, Scott~
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86 T-Type (wife's nice car) TE 63,Front Mount Custom Interior,Midnight Blue. *being completed* Painted: now going together!!!  86 Camaro 3.8L Hybrid 10.66@131.17mph 93oct pump gas through the mufflers Drag radial tire 16psi boost *TH400w/brake .76mm turbo,5"DP,Champion head/intake Ect.  1992 GMC Typhoon (wifes daily driver) FPR,Double GN FMIC, Splayed 4bolt block,nitrated crank,Eagle rods w/ SRP pistons> Vortec heads.Custom camshaft 61dbb turbo. 98 Jimmy with left over Typhoon parts. Marine 4.3L intake conversion... I'll bet it's in the 13's  89 Nissan Maxima GN TA49 turbo stock GN intercooler, stock Nissan 3.0L with 244,000mi and counting 13.40@107.mph
    
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November 23rd, 2007, 08:28 AM
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As I recall, all the Series 2 or 3 engines will have the 60 degree V6 style bellhousing, so transmission choices are limited. To my knowledge none of the components are interchangeable between the "GN" V6 and the series 2 or3.
I would have to agree with you that the Series 2 or 3 make great platforms for a killer little turbo engine (roller cam, steel mains, improved oiling, etc). Check out INTENSE-Racing: Don't make excuses. Make horsepower. or ZZPerformance for some more info on these. Also check out 3800Pro.com Forum for forums.
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November 24th, 2007, 11:32 AM
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The series II and III have a way better oiling system, and the Series II/III oil pump is 100% better than the GN. cross-bolt main caps. one piece rear mail seal. I don`t like the balance shaft in the seires motor.
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November 25th, 2007, 08:55 AM
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Thanks for the links.. I'll do some reseach..!!!!
At least I'll know how hard we can push the stock series2 in this Camaro that is now Turbo charged. Thanks!, Scott~
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November 25th, 2007, 12:30 PM
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Blue GN: Old combo 559whp/706wtq. New buildup to come with race ported GN 1 heads and intake  . Black GN:Stock 134k shortblock except cam  ,KB 70 mm TB and plenum, ported irons 1.77in 1.5ex, RJC head gaskets, ported stock intake, 212-212 comp roller, 1.65 T&D's, RJC powerplate, 1" plenum spacer, 83 lb/hr injectors, double pumper, FAST XFI, G-Body FMIC, welded ported stock manifolds, 3.5 dp, T66BB GTQ, Dusty PTC 9.5", 200 4-R by me with billet shafted forward drum, input, and planet. 8.5 rear with Auburn and 28 spline Moser axles. Time with old combo 10.88@126mph. Stage II coming soon .WORK HARDER! THOSE ON WELFARE DEPEND ON YOU!
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