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What size intercooler pipeing should I use?
I got my stock turbo ported and upgraded, and I will be installing an alky kit, I am thinking of installing an intercooler, but I dont know what diameter pipeing to support the best air flow, but not causing too much boost lag.
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Vinny 1985 Grand National Gloss black, T-Tops, Electric Fan, American Raceing rims, Ported heads, Ported intake, 36lb injecters, upgraded cam, Stage 3 Hypertech Chip, Hooker Header Super Comp. Exhaust (with cat removed) |
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2.5" is sort of the standard.
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84 GN. 4.1L girdled with 8.5:1 JEs, 212-212 Comp Cam, GN1s, Ported stock intake, Ford FM IC, 6765DBB, KB headers, Cotton's 3" DP, Innovative Turbo Systems external gate, 60lb injectors, Turbo tweak chip, and a few misc things. No times with new combo yet. 06 Acura TL daily driver. |
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Guys,
The IC and Alky is the way to go. IMHO I have learned that adding and IC is easy on a hot air. Using a modified upper plenum (see my signature), makes the thing simple. I am looking into making a custom upper plenum to make this thing even easier. I had one of these modified plenums flow checked and the flow IS NOT AFFECTED, as compared to other upper plenums, by the relief for the turbo and any turbo up through a TA 49 will fit, too. I won't be selling these, but maybe Brian (Bweavy), or Race Jace will step in? I would like to know if there is any interest in these plenums, if you guys are interested?
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6 togo - 84 WH1, modified PTE plenum,87 intake, T/M IC, F body radiator, Lincoln fan, 86 ECM, blue top injs., TA49 turbo, KB exh. 85 T w/86 intake,modified Accufab plenum T/M IC, 87 ECM, 87 turbo, green stripe injs.,86 fan, 86 v8 radiator, Hooker exhaust, ATR up/down pipes, brakes converted from PM to hydoboost. 87 GN w/17k Mi. |
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Im suprised. 2.5 seems kinda small. anyone else have comments, or is that the popular opinion.
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Vinny 1985 Grand National Gloss black, T-Tops, Electric Fan, American Raceing rims, Ported heads, Ported intake, 36lb injecters, upgraded cam, Stage 3 Hypertech Chip, Hooker Header Super Comp. Exhaust (with cat removed) |
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Do you have pictures that I can see what I would be working with?
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Vinny 1985 Grand National Gloss black, T-Tops, Electric Fan, American Raceing rims, Ported heads, Ported intake, 36lb injecters, upgraded cam, Stage 3 Hypertech Chip, Hooker Header Super Comp. Exhaust (with cat removed) |
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I will try to get some .
I can't post them, but if you will send me your e mail, I'll send you a pic or 2.
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6 togo - 84 WH1, modified PTE plenum,87 intake, T/M IC, F body radiator, Lincoln fan, 86 ECM, blue top injs., TA49 turbo, KB exh. 85 T w/86 intake,modified Accufab plenum T/M IC, 87 ECM, 87 turbo, green stripe injs.,86 fan, 86 v8 radiator, Hooker exhaust, ATR up/down pipes, brakes converted from PM to hydoboost. 87 GN w/17k Mi. |
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2.5" will cause no measurable restriction on a stock or TA33 turbo setup. Look at the old Spearco setups, they used 2.25" piping. I went 110mph on a very mild tune with it. If you had a large turbo and you were flowing a lot of air I could understand the concern. My dad's car went 10.70s with an old Kenne-Bell Big boy intercooler (small by today's standards) and 2.5" plumbing.
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84 GN. 4.1L girdled with 8.5:1 JEs, 212-212 Comp Cam, GN1s, Ported stock intake, Ford FM IC, 6765DBB, KB headers, Cotton's 3" DP, Innovative Turbo Systems external gate, 60lb injectors, Turbo tweak chip, and a few misc things. No times with new combo yet. 06 Acura TL daily driver. |
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Good to know, It will save me lots of money just going with 2.5. now I just need to worry about reclocking the turbo, and bending the pipe to go behind the turbo and enter the intake manifold.
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Vinny 1985 Grand National Gloss black, T-Tops, Electric Fan, American Raceing rims, Ported heads, Ported intake, 36lb injecters, upgraded cam, Stage 3 Hypertech Chip, Hooker Header Super Comp. Exhaust (with cat removed) |
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85' WH1 pt6765rh, 86'-87' coil module w/ caspers adapter, Accel Gen 6, 55#'s, TH400, PPC 3200, aluminum rad, f-body fans, TB relocation, IC'd, and not running yet, lol |
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Time is the only issue. I need to find time to install the alky kit first (Priority) and I need to look at the engine compartment and decide if I want to get that Black intercooler pipeing or just the polished aluminum. I do know that once I pick the intercooler, I am painting the face black so it seems inconspicous through the grill.
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Vinny 1985 Grand National Gloss black, T-Tops, Electric Fan, American Raceing rims, Ported heads, Ported intake, 36lb injecters, upgraded cam, Stage 3 Hypertech Chip, Hooker Header Super Comp. Exhaust (with cat removed) |
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I agree, I have mine tucked away to where you almost can't see it at all if you are not looking for it. I like it.
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85' WH1 pt6765rh, 86'-87' coil module w/ caspers adapter, Accel Gen 6, 55#'s, TH400, PPC 3200, aluminum rad, f-body fans, TB relocation, IC'd, and not running yet, lol |
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Got Pics?
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Vinny 1985 Grand National Gloss black, T-Tops, Electric Fan, American Raceing rims, Ported heads, Ported intake, 36lb injecters, upgraded cam, Stage 3 Hypertech Chip, Hooker Header Super Comp. Exhaust (with cat removed) |
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very very cool installation (pun intended
) and probably a bit more effective without messing with tranny/oil/coolant temps compared to how everybody else's intercooler is mounted. can you post some pics topside when you get a chance?
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Corky Bell, author of "Maximum Boost" recommends sizing intercooling piping to 450 ft/second velocity. Maximum airflow can be approximated by multiplying the desired BHP by 1.5. Both can be found on page 61 of the book.
Conrad C.
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Turbonetic 66-S-BB-.63exh w/EVO WG (35mm) #10780, KB 70mm TB/Plenum, Champion port Intake/CI head/Fuel Rail/EGR B/O, Comp Hyd Roller #212/212 w/beehive, Scorpion 1.5 RR, ATR 3-bolt header/dual 3" Cat-Bk/DP301, 72# inj, RJC Pl, PTE TurboSaver, 12" B-Car frt/11" Baer rr disk, Hotchkis tubular up frt ctrl arms/frt sway bar, Metco rear ctrl arms & HNR sway bar, Eaton posi w/Moser 30 axle, GTA wheels, CAS V-1/St. Al. radiator, 4" cold air, XFI, GNX Dash, Autometer Dual Channel In. Air Temp, Billet Optima Battery Mnt, 9.5" ArtCarr LU 3k stall, DRW C. Al Tran. Pan w/700R filter. 11.6 @ 118 mph. Antifreeze in the Oil! Metal fines in Oil Filter. LOL. Jack & Brian Cotton (www.cottonsperformance.com) (413-789-0531) The Greatest! |