GNX destroyed under Clunkers Program

[rs8018]

From the Detroit Free Press....can anyone verify this?? Would be a HUGE shame if they did?

Exotic clunkers also fueled recent program | Detroit Free Press | Freep.com

thx
rs8018

[DJ Red Barron]

PLEASE tell me that article is full of lies and deceit.

If this ends up verified, I want to know where the remains of that X are currently located.

[BEATAV8]

It HAS to be BS. Nobody owning one of those cars is THAT stupid.

[ThikStik]

Everytime i saw the new's stupid footage, it was totally irrelevent. A few times they showed cars from the late 70's . I hate the media, they waste so much gas taking pics with blurred pics of kids feet at schools, and always a useless closeups.. like a murder scene, then they just take a pic of a street sign, and the crime tape...ohhh, so compelling. It takes a whole crew in huge vehicles just to do that. Ive seen alot of cream puff vehicles in the local pullaparrt...its infuriating.

[BEATAV8]

OMG...

right at the top of the list under ASC

CARS.gov - Car Allowance Rebate System - Home - Formerly Referred to as “Cash for Clunkers”

http://www.cars.gov/files/official-i...n-vehicles.pdf

[Carr]

now that sucks

[pacecarta]

and here i thought the guy that traded in the 1989 20th anniversay pontiac was stupid (pg 115) , yeah theres a TTA on the list

[turbobob924]

It has to be BS. I seem to remember that 82-87 regal GN's were specifically excluded?

[Carr]

only cars that were made before 84 was excluded.

[DCVING 6]

I still say BS. Its probably like the other thread of the 49k mile WE4 that ended up being a POS 149k white limited.

[phillyturbosix]

I'm pretty sure the turbo Buick don't qualify for the program. Those are most likely all NA Buick's. Our cars were rated at 25 MPG. Then again there is a daily driven GNX near me with over 275K on it so maybe he traded it in finally

trade-in vehicles must get 18 or less MPG (some very large pick-up trucks and cargo vans have different requirements).

[slowcar]

a 1997 Continental R is worth $50k plus depending on miles.....they are ultra collector cars in the Bentley world....

too many IDIOTS...I said IDIOTS....if a car is worth $5k plus...why trade it in on a new car? so you can lose more money on the drive off the lot depreciation ...

sell your car...and then buy a used car of the model you want...SIMPLE..dont buy NEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a car that I am selling for my brother...a Mercedes CL600 2004...30k miles...bulletproof drivetrain ----a $130k sticker 500 hp 600 ft. lbs. of torque....less then 500 are made annually ......I am selling it for him for $33k (cheap for what this car offers) the car has messaging and air conditioned seats and runs low 12's .......really cool car...

now I have a friend AGAINST my advice went out and bought a new 2009 IS350 Lexus...nice car... but every yuppy from the east to west owns one...so not COOL at all...he paid $44k for this car with 200 miles

I got him on the phone...before he bought this IS350 about this super Benz and EXPLAINED about the Lexus vs. the Benz...he said he wanted a Lexus and wasnt sure about a Mercedes reliability and the year...(these cars are virtually like tanks) ....I said ok you will see.....

He came over this morning with his car....I said hey lets go for a ride in this CL600...he was speechless the entire ride....the car runs stock low 12's....afterwards he cursed himself out for not buying the CL600 and buying a yuppy car....he couldnt believe he bought a $46k msrp car over a $130k msrp car....he kept saying it is 10x more luxury and 10x faster...**** **** **** I ****ed up.........now he is upside down on his car $12k....LOL.... I tried ...people are idiots when it comes to cars......****ing idiots....

a car enthusiast is a real world car buyer...the best advice...read motor trend car and driver...know about cars... this will help your pocket and ego later trust me

[X Ray]

It is true...I just got off the phone with the author of the article....this information is of the government web sight...the dealer in which it was turned in to and vehicle number are not known......I wonder what yard it is in... a sad story. http://www.cars.gov/files/official-i...n-vehicles.pdf

[buickruss]

I say no way

[BEATAV8]

It seems so totally unfathomable.. but the info is coming from a government website.

[GNX 233, 485]

So the list is from the GOV. Why start believing them now? It also states that (19) 1984 Riviera Convertibles and (1) 1985 Riviera Convertible were accepted for the program.......Where would 20 of these be to trade in??? Also, why would it be under ASC and not Buick Regal or Buick Grand National? ASC did not make the car Buick did.
I think the GOV is pulling a fast one with this list, as it is almost impossible to verify. If it is true then there are alot of stupid people out there.

[GNXwannabe]

There is a vid on YouTube of a C5 Vette that was "clunkered" and the dealer service guys are video taping the "death". The guy pours the "cool-aid" in the oil fill tube and proceeds to start and run the car until it locked up. Here's the kicker......They left the oil cap off and the thing belched more snoke into the air while being "killed" than it would have released if driven for 10 more years All in the name of saving the planet.

[turbobuick]

Originally Posted by phillyturbosix

I'm pretty sure the turbo Buick don't qualify for the program. Those are most likely all NA Buick's. Our cars were rated at 25 MPG. Then again there is a daily driven GNX near me with over 275K on it so maybe he traded it in finally

trade-in vehicles must get 18 or less MPG (some very large pick-up trucks and cargo vans have different requirements).

It qualifies
CARS - Car Allowance Rebate System

If that was really a GNX lets not forget it had to be registered and insured for the last year in order to qualify. Meaning it was a running driving GNX

[BEATAV8]

Seems to me the dealer would just take it in on standard trade... not clunker.

[GNTurbo6]

Our cars are rated at a revised 18 mpg according to the cash for clunkers website. Which is just low enough to qualify. Also just because the car was regged and insured for the past year, doesn't mean it wasn't a wrecked car that was bought back and necessarily in good running condition.

[SPOOLN]

Car Dealers are always looking for a fast BUCK! Seems a Dealer would know the value of a GNX is worth more then the $4500 rebate. Theres a car dealer here who has not received the GOV rebates on the cars traded in, he is selling them out right because he has a lot full of cars sitting in the back and he is losing money.

[slowcar]

this is a rare continental r coupe...one of the cars on the GOV list...

PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS.......someone would be blind to trade in this car on a stupid $4500 credit.......even with a blown engine and 100k miles this car is worth $20-25k


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[88 CuttyClassic]

Originally Posted by GNX 233, 485

Also, why would it be under ASC and not Buick Regal or Buick Grand National? ASC did not make the car Buick did.

this is my question as well...a 87 gnx vin should look exactly like an 87 GN vin until the serial number, correct?

that would be like my 83 hurst olds being under Cars & concepts instead of Oldsmobile because they did the conversions.

[X Ray]

Originally Posted by 88 CuttyClassic

this is my question as well...a 87 gnx vin should look exactly like an 87 GN vin until the serial number, correct?

that would be like my 83 hurst olds being under Cars & concepts instead of Oldsmobile because they did the conversions.

The reason is ASC certified the mileage and emissions for the vehicle .......thus ASC emissions label, window sticker....that is why it is listed under ASC not Buick...

[X Ray]

[QUOTE=GNX 233, 485;2307478] Also, why would it be under ASC and not Buick Regal or Buick Grand National? ASC did not make the car Buick did/QUOTE]

The reason is ASC certified the mileage and emissions for the vehicle .......thus ASC emissions label, window sticker....that is why it is listed under ASC not Buick..

[xclrate]

http://www.cars.gov/files/official-i...n-vehicles.pdf

[88 CuttyClassic]

this list is a total farce... two people turned in 06 stage 3 roush F150's ...yeah right... this list was put out to appease the tree hugging ****ers.. if a GNX made it into a dealership the pictures would have been all over the net by now...you'd have to bank on every guy at that dealer wasnt a car guy and didnt give a crap.. same with all the other exotics... BOGUS!!!

[xclrate]

I forgot to add in my post above that there is a 97 Aston Martin DB7.That my friends is a $200,000 car new.I find it hard to believe this or a GNX made the list!

[rons 00z]

if you go back in the link to just cars.gov and click official information you cant find that PDF link on the site at all. idk if i'm over looking it but that list IMO is total bull**** and not legit at all. maybe piggybacked off that site IDK how the computer nerds do it but i'm sure thats whats happening.

nope nevermind i found it on the site....i still call BS though

[alwayscode390]

If this is bogus, why would the government go to such a hassle to list rare unknown cars like the syclone/typhoon/TTA/GNX's ? Chances are they dont even know about those cars ---

[gn4u2c]

At my dealership we traded a 93 Z29 with 58k red t-tops excellent car very sad as straight trade it was worth 4k but as a clunker they got $4,500 Very very sad some kid would have loved to have that thing mom and pops mobile 100% stock. I think we must have done about 200 donuts in that poor thing before it let go .. LT1's are tuff !

[Reggie West]

[QUOTE=X Ray;2308204]

Originally Posted by GNX 233, 485

Also, why would it be under ASC and not Buick Regal or Buick Grand National? ASC did not make the car Buick did/QUOTE]

The reason is ASC certified the mileage and emissions for the vehicle .......thus ASC emissions label, window sticker....that is why it is listed under ASC not Buick..

Remember Buick contracted ASC to do all the mods on the GNX. The turbo, suspension, ECM tuning, air vents on the side and the dash.

Run the VIN number and that will tell all.

[GNTIM]

Maybe a GN with a dealer installed ASC sunroof? My car has one of these and all of the reasearch I have done says that they put a ASC sticker on the car, usually in the glovebox.

[TurboIndian]

Originally Posted by GNXwannabe

There is a vid on YouTube of a C5 Vette that was "clunkered" and the dealer service guys are video taping the "death". The guy pours the "cool-aid" in the oil fill tube and proceeds to start and run the car until it locked up. Here's the kicker......They left the oil cap off and the thing belched more snoke into the air while being "killed" than it would have released if driven for 10 more years All in the name of saving the planet.

it was not a c5 it was a c4.

YouTube - cash for clunkers

[boosted6&8]

They killed a lot of corvettes. It would have been nice to part a ton of those cars on that list. 51 1989 Trans Ams I hate to think of what some were.