#359 all cleaned up

[#359]

#359 has a new home, absolutely gorgeous.

Attached a few choice pics.

[Kma697]

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gnx139]

Dude, that car looks killer, matter of fact so does your garage.

[Kma697]

Speakin of the shop....you don't own a business that sells cars on Ebay???

[70Mach1]

Originally Posted by Kma697

Speakin of the shop....you don't own a business that sells cars on Ebay???

I've seen a shop that looks exactly like that on Ebay several hundred times.

[8t7gn]

Texas Direct on fleabay.

[Monte231SS]

Man you guys have keen eyes. Car looks good all cleaned up!

[#359]

Yes, texas_direct to be exact. We plan on keeping this one a while, something to admire. Just thought I would let you guys in on where it did end up.

[twinvipers]

Originally Posted by #359

Yes, texas_direct to be exact. We plan on keeping this one a while, something to admire. Just thought I would let you guys in on where it did end up.

Thought you were keeping it for a while ?

[UNDER-PRESSURE]

Originally Posted by #359

Yes, texas_direct to be exact. We plan on keeping this one a while, something to admire. Just thought I would let you guys in on where it did end up.

Your keeping it???

eBay Motors: Buick : Grand National (item 180111767363 end time May-07-07 13:07:17 PDT)

[70Mach1]

Originally Posted by UNDER-PRESSURE

Your keeping it???

eBay Motors: Buick : Grand National (item 180111767363 end time May-07-07 13:07:17 PDT)

Yeh, what a freaking joke.

[#359]

Just because it is on ebay, doesn't mean we expect to sell it. What's the point of having a car like that if you don't show it off? Just an advertising tool, gives people confidence that our dealership is the real deal when they are buying their $20-$30k vehicle sight unseen, nothing more. We had a similar Grand National (not GNX) with 4k miles on it that we had for about 2 years, we listed it every couple months just to keep it out there, however, like all vehicles we own, they are all for sale at the end of the day. No one is even going to coment on how awesome it looks? Well, I will then, WOW, what an awesome vehicle.

[twinvipers]

Originally Posted by #359

Just because it is on ebay, doesn't mean we expect to sell it. What's the point of having a car like that if you don't show it off? Just an advertising tool, gives people confidence that our dealership is the real deal when they are buying their $20-$30k vehicle sight unseen, nothing more. We had a similar Grand National (not GNX) with 4k miles on it that we had for about 2 years, we listed it every couple months just to keep it out there, however, like all vehicles we own, they are all for sale at the end of the day. No one is even going to coment on how awesome it looks? Well, I will then, WOW, what an awesome vehicle.

I would suggest doing something with those rusted brake calipers.....I think people now are going to say WOW, what rusted brake calipers !!!

I wonder what the undercarraige looks like. It has to be rusted also if the calipers were, unless it was cleaned up already.

[#359]

That's just what happens to unprotected cast iron (remember that picture is under a harsh digital flash), car is 100% original, you could eat off the undercarriage, time passes, things oxidize, but this car is perfect, we don't plan on doing anything to alter it's untouched condition, has been in climate controlled comfort its entire life, would imagine #1 and #2 are identical. We would have included pics of the undercarriage, but that would require us driving to a shop that had a lift, which would have broken 10 miles. Anyone interested enough to actually buy this will get it professionally inspected anyway. If anyone is in the Houston area, give me a call, stop in and take a look, sits right in the middle of our showroom.

[cruzn57]

nice car !!
very impressive,
its your car, so do what ever you want, ( sell it, keep it, or just dangle it in front of everyone!)
I have #163, it sits beside my 13k mi GN, next to the WE4, and the 86 T type.

again, very nice!!

cruzn57

[jdpolzin]

I hate car flippers. Thanks for driving the prices of our cars up.

[UNDER-PRESSURE]

Originally Posted by #359

That's just what happens to unprotected cast iron (remember that picture is under a harsh digital flash), car is 100% original, you could eat off the undercarriage, time passes, things oxidize, but this car is perfect, we don't plan on doing anything to alter it's untouched condition, has been in climate controlled comfort its entire life, would imagine #1 and #2 are identical. We would have included pics of the undercarriage, but that would require us driving to a shop that had a lift, which would have broken 10 miles. Anyone interested enough to actually buy this will get it professionally inspected anyway. If anyone is in the Houston area, give me a call, stop in and take a look, sits right in the middle of our showroom.

I have seen this car many times over the years & it truely is NEW & belongs in a museum. Hopefully this car will find a good home again someday?

[jdpolzin]

Yeah hopefully it will go somewhere that it gets truely appreciated instead of sold for profit over and over again.

[TurboDave]

Originally Posted by UNDER-PRESSURE

I have seen this car many times over the years & it truely is NEW & belongs in a museum. Hopefully this car will find a good home again someday?

I agree, it certainly hasn't found one yet.

[jdpolzin]

You know i just had to come back and re-post on this thread. I just wanted to comment that everyone has their own choice on what happens to the cars they own. Whether it be sell them for a profit or keep them to enjoy. the problem is that now the cars are unappreciated and have become a rich man's money sport. this car is a perfect example. It has never been titled. Never been driven. thats fine to have a car for collection because it preserves the car, BUT I have seen the price of this car go from $60K to $110K in a matter of 2 years. If this doesnt stop happening, pretty soon none of us guys, that truely appreciate these cars, will be able to own one and they will all be sitting in some heated/AC garage and wont be driven at all. Sorry but this is a very true fact. I personally hope the car market falls flat on its face, then maybe us normal income people can enjoy the hobby again. Sorry but think about it! I want my kids to be able to enjoy the cars too! take care!

[cruzn57]

I bought my cars for fun, and investment, I do drive them, I do enjoy them, being a limited production, and not every jerk can afford/ maintain one,thats what makes them so unique.
my kids will find there own collectables, not what I fell they should collect.
I have my 57 chevy, that I've had for over 25yrs, now they are building steel reproductions!! does that bother me? heck no, I'm flattered that I had the forsight( good luck) to have pruchased one when they were reasonable.
same with my GNX,GN,WE4,T Type, I bought when they were (what I concidered) affordable.
Sorry if you think your being ripped off, or driven out of the market,
but thats life, hope you realize that you cannot have everything your heart desires, we all have to make some concessions.
No hard feelings! but I'm glad the market has finally realized that Hemi's are not the only collectable !!!!! LOL

[my85grandnation]

Im curious as to why the car has no hood emblems on it. Has it been repainted?

[ghall]

Originally Posted by my85grandnation

Im curious as to why the car has no hood emblems on it. Has it been repainted?

It has the proper emblems, GNX'S don't have fender emblems or hood emblems.


Geoff

[my85grandnation]

Originally Posted by ghall

It has the proper emblems, GNX'S don't have fender emblems or hood emblems.


Geoff

Really? I never knew that they didnt have hood emblems. You learn something new everyday.

[LEGACY_GN]

First of all, I live in Houston and it would be dream to see the car. Second, I completly agree this car should never be driven and is museum piece. However, and this is from my GTO club experience, a car should not be restored into a trailer queen for car shows and never driven. They've already had miles put on them, there's no loss. This car has been preserved for 20 years and it would be crime to waste that.

I use to go to the GTO Nationals in various locations and the Buick Nationals in BG damn near every year and the Buick meet was always so much better because there would be GSX's with frame off restorations doing laps down the quarter, and that is the spirit of these cars. Not to be trailer queens. GTO people are ridiculous with the show factor, and could never imagine running a lap. That's sad.

Just my 2 cents.

[johan]

I'm new here. Why should this particular car not be driven ?
Looks nice by the way.

[LEGACY_GN]

Originally Posted by johan

I'm new here. Why should this particular car not be driven ?
Looks nice by the way.

Because it has under 10 miles (magical number) on it after 20 years. Museum piece. It's ironic you responded while my jaw was on the desk reading your thread about your find. Sign me up for GNX with 40,000 miles. I'm sold.

However, I must say you should verify everything completley, because if what you say is true, it's probably the greatest find in Buick History. One for the magizine. I'm talking primarly about the 7 mile GNX and the oddity of 3 plus a racecar puts it over the top.

PM me your contact information and we'll talk.

[johan]

The Miller car is not a race car. I'm not sure what it is ! I can not find a way to upload pictures . I guess I have to post the pictures elsewhere and then link to them ? I do not see how to PM you either.

[LEGACY_GN]

click on my name and select send private message.

[johan]

Originally Posted by LEGACY_GN

click on my name and select send private message.

Sent e-mail with a photo or two.

[70Mach1]

Originally Posted by LEGACY_GN

First of all, I live in Houston and it would be dream to see the car. Second, I completly agree this car should never be driven and is museum piece. However, and this is from my GTO club experience, a car should not be restored into a trailer queen for car shows and never driven. They've already had miles put on them, there's no loss. This car has been preserved for 20 years and it would be crime to waste that.

I use to go to the GTO Nationals in various locations and the Buick Nationals in BG damn near every year and the Buick meet was always so much better because there would be GSX's with frame off restorations doing laps down the quarter, and that is the spirit of these cars. Not to be trailer queens. GTO people are ridiculous with the show factor, and could never imagine running a lap. That's sad.

Just my 2 cents.

As an owner of a trailer queen or two, I find it sad when the people who prefer driving their cars put down people who prefer to show rather than driving them on a track.

Personally, I like seeing people who will drive them on a regular basis and appreciate their love for the car, and in most cases enjoy talking cars with them, but when these people cannot appreciate all the sweat and dollars that went into restoring a car back to original pristine condition as a show piece get put down like you just did, it make me feel sad for people like yourself who only can appreciate their side of the tracks.

Just my 3 cents.

[LEGACY_GN]

Originally Posted by 70Mach1

As an owner of a trailer queen or two, I find it sad when the people who prefer driving their cars put down people who prefer to show rather than driving them on a track.

Personally, I like seeing people who will drive them on a regular basis and appreciate their love for the car, and in most cases enjoy talking cars with them, but when these people cannot appreciate all the sweat and dollars that went into restoring a car back to original pristine condition as a show piece get put down like you just did, it make me feel sad for people like yourself who only can appreciate their side of the tracks.

Just my 3 cents.

Well, enlighten me. I can't fathom how after all your sweat and dollars you wouldn't want to drive the car. That's what I see as the true pleasure in owning a beautiful collector car, is driving it. I can't understand the draw to do so much work for something you look at, when it could be so much more i.e. something you drive. I have a whole display in my office of model cars I love to look at, and of course would love to drive in real life just once for that experience of lifetime. I'm sure you drove them before they were restored. Don't you miss that? Honestly, I can't get my head around it. I wouldn't care about cars if it wasn't the driving aspect. Thats the true love of the automobile. The drive. That feeling it gives you of freedom. Wind in your hair, rock and roll on the radio, motor roaring as you barrel down the road accelerating faster and faster.

Please describe your point of view in the detail I have. I like to think I have open mind. And I don't mean show cars should be run on the track, that was just a crazy example of the Buick meet. I mean pleasure drives.

[NHRA Super Gas]

Originally Posted by LEGACY_GN

Well, enlighten me. I can't fathom how after all your sweat and dollars you wouldn't want to drive the car. That's what I see as the true pleasure in owning a beautiful collector car, is driving it. I can't understand the draw to do so much work for something you look at, when it could be so much more i.e. something you drive. I have a whole display in my office of model cars I love to look at, and of course would love to drive in real life just once for that experience of lifetime. I'm sure you drove them before they were restored. Don't you miss that? Honestly, I can't get my head around it. I wouldn't care about cars if it wasn't the driving aspect. Thats the true love of the automobile. The drive. That feeling it gives you of freedom. Wind in your hair, rock and roll on the radio, motor roaring as you barrel down the road accelerating faster and faster.

Please describe your point of view in the detail I have. I like to think I have open mind. And I don't mean show cars should be run on the track, that was just a crazy example of the Buick meet. I mean pleasure drives.

What I think you are missing is the fact that most people who would keep a museum piece such as the GNX above would always have several cars to drive and have fun with. At this level, whether they are unbelievably low miles survivors or concourse resotrations, they cease to be cars and become more like artwork. I agree with 70 Mach, to each his own. I keep having people ask me "are you going to drive it, it would be a shame" with relation to my 70 Cuda. The reality is probably not much at all for the first few years, maybe down the road. I have my balls out GN to drive, which will always be faster than that car. Why mess it up?

Does that make sense?

[johan]

Makes sense to me.

[twinvipers]

Originally Posted by NHRA Super Gas

What I think you are missing is the fact that most people who would keep a museum piece such as the GNX above would always have several cars to drive and have fun with. At this level, whether they are unbelievably low miles survivors or concourse resotrations, they cease to be cars and become more like artwork. I agree with 70 Mach, to each his own. I keep having people ask me "are you going to drive it, it would be a shame" with relation to my 70 Cuda. The reality is probably not much at all for the first few years, maybe down the road. I have my balls out GN to drive, which will always be faster than that car. Why mess it up?

Does that make sense?

Well put !!! I love my garage queens

I'll drive the others