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November 23rd, 2002, 08:02 PM
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Ready to do HG, what do I need?
Guys I am asking so I dont forget anything
So far I know I need: 2 sets of steel shim headgaskets for double stacking A set of new ARP head bolts A new set of intake gaskets Valve cover gaskets Do I need some sealant for between the gaskets? What do you guys prefer? Finally which vendor carries everything I need? Postons catalog is too vague on what brand the items are in their catalog TIA
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November 23rd, 2002, 08:09 PM
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Most guys use the GE1200 sealer on the steel shims.Oh and one more thing you need....PATIENCE.Take your time and you won't regret it.
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November 23rd, 2002, 08:16 PM
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Thanks sixgun, I remember Intercooler talking about it on his car but couldnt remember the name.
Does it go inbetween the gaskets only, or on the deck and head sides also. Thanks
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November 23rd, 2002, 08:52 PM
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You're sure the heads are dead straight and not warped?
Might be worth a resurfacing to be sure,if you're not.
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November 23rd, 2002, 09:11 PM
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I believe it goes in between and on the head and deck sides.
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TA perf. Motor built by ArizonaGN (Thanks Nick) PT76GTS,RJC intercooler,F.A.S.T XFI,Champion GN1 intake,83#,TA block and heads,224/224 solid roller,T&D 1.65 rockers,CP pistons,Total seal rings,ATR rods,Eagle crank,MSD billet dist.,7AL-2 ignition,PTC converter,TH400 w/T-Brake,ATR headers & exhaust
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November 23rd, 2002, 09:48 PM
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I am going to have them resurfaced, forgot to list that. Thanks
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Bob D .040 over block - n/a crank - hypers stock turbo/IC/blue tops Yes, I am an alcoholic http://bobdittmar.tripod.com/blown87combobs1987buickgrandnational/index.html
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November 24th, 2002, 10:59 AM
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be sure to torque everything ! i just finished replacing mine yesterday and i took my time and cleaned everything and torqued to specs. good luck.
ps yours will probley be easier i have head studs! and i did them in the car. 
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November 24th, 2002, 11:12 AM
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If you need 1200 I have two tubes left. You sure you want to go doubles? I think you introduce more chance for problems that way. I used singles but if I was going to do doubles I would just concentrate on sticking the two together as a package first (do only the inner surfaces) and let it set up then go back in to do the final install. It gels in about 5 minutes so have everything lubed, layed-out, etc.... so you can move quick!
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November 25th, 2002, 12:22 AM
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Well I was leaning towards doubles to keep the same compression ratio. I suppose with a single I would not have to run quite as much boost.
Is GE1200 normally used on a single gasket for extra insurance?
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Bob D .040 over block - n/a crank - hypers stock turbo/IC/blue tops Yes, I am an alcoholic http://bobdittmar.tripod.com/blown87combobs1987buickgrandnational/index.html
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November 25th, 2002, 12:31 AM
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ARP thread sealer.
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November 25th, 2002, 12:53 AM
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does the difference in compression between a single and double steel shim HG make THAT much of a differnece. i.e. will the motor detonate at the same boost level as before?
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November 25th, 2002, 09:54 AM
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ummm can I ask a question. Why are you using the steel shim hg's?
Sully
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November 25th, 2002, 11:55 AM
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I am using them because I do not want to do this again. I just ordered Jason's HG kit which has everything I need except the bolts and intake gasket
So my final Q is by double stacking it should be close enough to stock that I do not have to shave the intake or anything, right?
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Bob D .040 over block - n/a crank - hypers stock turbo/IC/blue tops Yes, I am an alcoholic http://bobdittmar.tripod.com/blown87combobs1987buickgrandnational/index.html
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November 25th, 2002, 04:34 PM
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Bob D .040 over block - n/a crank - hypers stock turbo/IC/blue tops Yes, I am an alcoholic http://bobdittmar.tripod.com/blown87combobs1987buickgrandnational/index.html
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November 25th, 2002, 04:50 PM
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Bob,
No shaving necessary! Hope they grow a beard before they need replacing again! HTH 
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November 25th, 2002, 05:09 PM
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Look again, Phatman...click on Buick products.
It's really there, and a great package, too! HTH
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November 25th, 2002, 05:14 PM
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The kit is four gaskets, a roller, a cardboard template, and a tube of GE1200. I talked to him about it for a couple of mins and he gave me a few tips for applying the silicone.
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Bob D .040 over block - n/a crank - hypers stock turbo/IC/blue tops Yes, I am an alcoholic http://bobdittmar.tripod.com/blown87combobs1987buickgrandnational/index.html
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