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Old February 5th, 2010, 09:54 PM
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non a/c heater box

looking for info and parts to change over to a non a/c heater box in a 1986 g-body (monte carlo ss) any info on this swap and where to find the parts would be appreciated . thanks
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Old February 5th, 2010, 09:57 PM
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Old February 5th, 2010, 09:59 PM
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looking for info and parts to change over to a non a/c heater box in a 1986 g-body (monte carlo ss) any info on this swap and where to find the parts would be appreciated . thanks
I have an entire spare kit out of a cutlass, with ducting and everything. I actually am doing this swap in my GN as we speak. I can provide pictures if needed.

Where in indiana are ya located?
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Old February 5th, 2010, 10:00 PM
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Just an fyi, this piece is a piece of junk. It does not fit right and needs all sorts of fabrication. Its trash. Do a search on it. Its a cheap alternative for a reason.
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Old February 5th, 2010, 10:09 PM
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I have an entire spare kit out of a cutlass, with ducting and everything. I actually am doing this swap in my GN as we speak. I can provide pictures if needed.

Where in indiana are ya located?

that would be great ! thanks. located in bluffton indiana , just about 30 minuets south of fort wayne
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Old February 7th, 2010, 10:25 AM
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anyone have any more info on this conversion
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Old February 8th, 2010, 05:45 PM
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anyone have any pictures of a completed install.
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you also need to mount the fresh air duct handles under the strg column
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the 86GN 3450 10.41@129.9 ported irons , small cam bone stock bottom end V2 and a 71gtq
the 87 gn 11.3@120.9 with a little te44 at 22psi

A little fun with the GNs at Atco video
my 86 10.4 on 93 with a 2004r on radials through the mufflers
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Old February 8th, 2010, 09:28 PM
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I have an entire spare kit out of a cutlass, with ducting and everything. I actually am doing this swap in my GN as we speak. I can provide pictures if needed.

Where in indiana are ya located?
What year was the Cutlass? I stopped and looked at a beater 1978 yesterday without A/C and wondered if the parts would fit my '87.
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thanks for the pic's pacecarta ! looks like it saves a decent amount of space but not as much as i thought it would. would be nice if the blower motor was a little farther away from the engine. did this make it much easier to get to the back spark plugs,header bolts and valve cover ?
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#6 isnt a problem with the a/c box , just have to have the right tools
take off the steel plate thats on the ac box and you've magically got more room

easier yes , i have a pic somewhere from the side showing the room
and pulling out studs to pull the head in the car was much easier as i recall all i had to do was remove the two tall center studs and i was able to lift the head off



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the 86GN 3450 10.41@129.9 ported irons , small cam bone stock bottom end V2 and a 71gtq
the 87 gn 11.3@120.9 with a little te44 at 22psi

A little fun with the GNs at Atco video
my 86 10.4 on 93 with a 2004r on radials through the mufflers

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pacecarta how much extra work if you had to pull the head with the original a/c box still in tact? I've heard people talking about pulling the engine to do hg replacements, does having the a/c box prevent one from changing a pass side hg if engine is not pulled?

Just wondering.
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head gaskets can be done in car with bolts or studs even with the A/C box

just easier with a delete plate and much easier on the back doing head gaskets on an engine stand because its not just the heads that have to come off to do composite(stock style) gaskets , you also need to pull the oil pan to clean out the old headgasket fluff from the pickup screen and to clean the pan thoroughly if there was any antifreeze mixed either when the gasket blew (milkshake) or when the head was removed

with the newer arp studs they can be removed with an allen wrench so just remove the studs and the head comes off easy
the only time its an issue doing gaskets in the car is if there are older studs that dont have a hex in the end to unscrew them

if its just head gaskets i do the in them car, having a lift makes doing the exhaust crossover and oil pan removal easier.
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the 87 gn 11.3@120.9 with a little te44 at 22psi

A little fun with the GNs at Atco video
my 86 10.4 on 93 with a 2004r on radials through the mufflers

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I have a non AC heater box with controls but no ducting if anybody is interested.

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Here is a picture of one of these in Lee's car and I'm going to do one in mine to. It's not a bolt in one and takes some time but the final product speaks for it's self. A lot better than alot of heater box's I have seen. Looks like I could pull the head easier.

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