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November 6th, 2009, 01:09 PM
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TSM-Legal 8-second pass
Don did it! 8.91@151.x
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Scott Simpson TSM Point Series Director I don't make the rules, I just enforce 'em Scott231@juno.com 
    
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November 6th, 2009, 03:32 PM
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November 6th, 2009, 03:33 PM
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November 6th, 2009, 03:54 PM
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Cal told me 8.97 but I'm sure tomorrow he'll try harder :-). Jeeze, drive half of the night and all day today, cover 820 miles, and I missed it by about 10 minutes. Congratulations, Don and crew.
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November 6th, 2009, 05:04 PM
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Where can I find the TSM rules?
(I was just wondering if this was done on an 8-bolt 109 block and conventional heads)
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'87 GN... RJC girdled 109, +.020 Diamond pistons, K1 rods, Cat crank, RJC alum pulleys, T/A heads, Champion intake,plenum and fuel rails, 1.55 TA rockers, 70mm Accufab, 214/214-.548/.548 Comp hyd roller, Comp 26120 beehives, 70GTQ, 83lb injectors, A1000 pump, MagnaFuel regulator, 15gal aluminum cell, Razors Alky kit, NOS 100hp nitrous system, GN1 FMIC, LS1 MAF & translator, TurboTweak 6.0 chip, Powerlogger, LM-1 Wideband O2, 3" THDP, ATR Pitbull exhaust, TH400 w/brake, 9.5" PTC, Dynotech 3.5" alum driveshaft, Moser C-clip axles. 
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November 6th, 2009, 05:21 PM
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quick rundown
yes 109, no stage or ta blocks 71mm max on turbo or smaller  must weigh 3400# with iron heads 3550 with alum heads more here TSM Information Center - t6p.com - Turbo Buick Regal Resource
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paul -NJ rep MAGNAbuick.com NJ,PA,MD DE -GN/TTA club 86 & 87 GN's A little fun with the GNs at Atco video my 86 10.4 on 93 with a 2004r on radials through the mufflers Last edited by pacecarta; November 6th, 2009 at 06:17 PM.
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November 6th, 2009, 05:53 PM
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I got a call from Clint and he said 8.97, OFF THE TRAILER
 Congrats, about as awesome as it gets!!!
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John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" 1987 GN 47K 1987 GN 26K 1987 T 18K A few more TR's!  Isac Alky Controller! Best Alky/Boost Controller on the Market T6P.COM Big Wood Racing Where Fast is never Fast enough! BoostedWhips.com NCSHANE.COM
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November 6th, 2009, 06:01 PM
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1987 GN Just coming out of a coma.... N/A 109 block bored .030 over with head studs, main studs #2 and #3 billet main caps, cometics, TRW forged .030 over slugs with hastings moly rings, ported stock heads with stainless valves, RJC FMIC, T&D 1.65 roller rockers, Comp Custom Ground Hydraulic Roller 218/218@.050 .590/.573 (with 1.65 rockers), champion ported intake, Hemco stock appearing doghouse, 60# injectors, PT70 P-trim turbo with H comp. housing, 3" TH DP with test pipe and hooker cat back, Walbro 340 pump, Razor's Alky, TT Chip, 3-1/2" MAF pipe with Big Mouth CA Kit and LS1 MAF, Translator.... yada yada New times soon. (1/8) 8.002 @ 86 mph 12.650 @ 106 mph with a 1.71 60' time with the stock turbo/dutt neck intercooler (best mph was 107.69 mph)
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November 6th, 2009, 06:01 PM
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Big congrats to Don Cruz and crew!!! I and probably others said it would just be a matter of time...
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Alan Ferrer 87 GN:Ttops 109 Girdled/CAT forged crank,Scat rods,Fully ported TA Street Intimidator heads,214/214 roller,Precision 70HPQ,Innovative MSBC,Cotton DP,Turbonetics RG-45 gate,84#'s,Me-R w/ WB correction,Aeromotive Eliminator pump,PTC 9.5 NL converter,TH400w/ brake, Metco lower CA's and Metco adjustable upper CA's, ATR bar... 10.88@126 (old combo) 1.62 60 ft.
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November 6th, 2009, 06:12 PM
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, the plug for checking compressor cover opening as i recall is 71.5 so a 71 is legal, but most ive seen run the 70mm turbosthey allowed my 71Q back in 04 151 on a 109 is haulin
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paul -NJ rep MAGNAbuick.com NJ,PA,MD DE -GN/TTA club 86 & 87 GN's A little fun with the GNs at Atco video my 86 10.4 on 93 with a 2004r on radials through the mufflers Last edited by pacecarta; November 6th, 2009 at 06:18 PM.
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November 6th, 2009, 06:45 PM
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How the frick are those guys keeping headgaskets on those cars ???
What is the secret ? I'm so afraid to turn mine up... because of the lack of fasteners around the cylinders. 
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'87 GN... RJC girdled 109, +.020 Diamond pistons, K1 rods, Cat crank, RJC alum pulleys, T/A heads, Champion intake,plenum and fuel rails, 1.55 TA rockers, 70mm Accufab, 214/214-.548/.548 Comp hyd roller, Comp 26120 beehives, 70GTQ, 83lb injectors, A1000 pump, MagnaFuel regulator, 15gal aluminum cell, Razors Alky kit, NOS 100hp nitrous system, GN1 FMIC, LS1 MAF & translator, TurboTweak 6.0 chip, Powerlogger, LM-1 Wideband O2, 3" THDP, ATR Pitbull exhaust, TH400 w/brake, 9.5" PTC, Dynotech 3.5" alum driveshaft, Moser C-clip axles.
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November 6th, 2009, 06:51 PM
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paul -NJ rep MAGNAbuick.com NJ,PA,MD DE -GN/TTA club 86 & 87 GN's A little fun with the GNs at Atco video my 86 10.4 on 93 with a 2004r on radials through the mufflers
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November 6th, 2009, 06:59 PM
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Cal Hartline
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Mike Ricketts  DLS built 4.1 StageII/ 76turbo/ 44mm Tial/ BG ported intake/ 1.75 T&D jessel style rockers/ FAST system/ TH400/ PTC converter (Thanks Dusty)/ TA heads/ 5" DP/ TA SS 4 bolt Headers/ Champion Racing/ RJC front mount/ 95lb/ Racetronix harnesses throughout the car etc... Cal Hartline tuned........ DLS ENGINE DEVELOPMENT 886 E 900N, Wheatfeild, IN, 46392 219-956-3653 HARTLINE PERFORMANCE 321-722-1563 My Track passes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKEIyppgOr0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SqbYtfQn8c
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November 6th, 2009, 07:08 PM
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A) Welding the heads on... B) Welding ears/tabs on the block to accomodate extra fasteners ? 
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'87 GN... RJC girdled 109, +.020 Diamond pistons, K1 rods, Cat crank, RJC alum pulleys, T/A heads, Champion intake,plenum and fuel rails, 1.55 TA rockers, 70mm Accufab, 214/214-.548/.548 Comp hyd roller, Comp 26120 beehives, 70GTQ, 83lb injectors, A1000 pump, MagnaFuel regulator, 15gal aluminum cell, Razors Alky kit, NOS 100hp nitrous system, GN1 FMIC, LS1 MAF & translator, TurboTweak 6.0 chip, Powerlogger, LM-1 Wideband O2, 3" THDP, ATR Pitbull exhaust, TH400 w/brake, 9.5" PTC, Dynotech 3.5" alum driveshaft, Moser C-clip axles.
Last edited by yullose; November 6th, 2009 at 07:14 PM.
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November 6th, 2009, 07:08 PM
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Someone mentioned that that run resulted in the I/C being blown open.. Must have exceeded the 24# boost limit!!
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Chuck Injector inspector Madison, Ga. USA Never trade luck for skill.
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November 6th, 2009, 07:31 PM
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Congrats Don That is AMAZING!!!!!!!
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November 6th, 2009, 10:04 PM
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Re: TSM-Legal 8-second pass
"off the trailer" unreal! Congratulations Don
Datar Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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87 GN Stroker 109 by Lonnie Diers, Girdled, Billet 71HPQ .85, 224-218 Solid roller cam, Race port-GN1's, 75#inj, XFI, Alkycontrol, TA Headers, 3.5"DP, Stage III 200r4 by Lonnie Diers, PTC 9.5" N/L
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November 6th, 2009, 10:23 PM
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Cal Hartline  www.HartlinePerformance.com (321)722-1563 Official TSM MPH & ET Records 2008 TSM Norwalk and 2007 & 2009 Reynolds Champion- Don Cruz 8.894@152.93 Official TSL MPH & ET Record 2007 TSL Champion- Gary Harmon 8.95@155.64 & 8.50@161 TSL-O Official TSO MPH & ET Record & Fastest Stock Susp. Buick V6 2009 TSO Top Gun Points Series Champion 2009 Norwalk & Reynolds Champion- Tony Gomes 7.971@175.47 2008 TSM Points Series Champion GSCA & BPG Champion- Jason White 9.34@147.39 2008 TSL Champion Willard Brown 8.95@154.14 2007 TSO Top Gun Points Series Champion 2004, 2006, 2008 GSCA TSO Champion- Dave Fiscus 7.979@176.74 XFI, PTE Turbo, AMS 1000 Boost Controller, PTC, on EVERY car listed above
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November 8th, 2009, 10:12 PM
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Don backed up the 8.97 Friday with an 8.8 Sat morning. Can't remember if it was 8.81 or 8.87, sigh. The missile is definitely flying!!!! Oh, he also won TSM :-). While I'm typing, Dave Fiscus ran a personal best TSO-legal 8.16 at 173 or 4 mph but hurt his trans, and then the backup failed.
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Regards, Carl Ijames carl.ijames@verizon.net
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November 9th, 2009, 08:38 PM
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Wow, great times!
Just curious though...... what kind of rpm is Don turning with a 275/60 dr and a 3.90 gear in the rear end at 151mph?
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86 TR WH1 Leather,column,astroroof Hartline XFI w/6 bank egt, ITS billet 71 DBB BWR 3.5 dp w/Trbosmrt gate,ISAC controller Champ Intake,GN1's,T&D's,83's,distributor,AL2 Razor alky, P-stroke IC, 210/215 roller, Forged stroker, TA headers, HR Bar Lonnie D Stage 2, PTC 9.5 N/L, 325/50's My balls write cheques that my luck can't cash....... 
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November 9th, 2009, 08:52 PM
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8 bolts in the heads no clamps or extra bolts Legal 71mm turbo 3580 lbs Don Cruz built the car/Cal Hartline tunes the XFI This car is a work of art! Look for the pics in the next GMHIGHTECH magazine!
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Jason White Thanks Hartline Performance, Don Cruz, ZDDPlus, DLS Engine, HRPartsNStuff, & Twisted 6 Racing convertors Pine Tree Posse member #0909 9.24 @ 149.33 TSM Legal 5/23/10 Best MPH 9.27 @ 150.78 TSM Legal 5/23/10 Best Outlaw ET 9.09 @ 149.15 Can it go 8's with a hydraulic roller?? 
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November 9th, 2009, 09:04 PM
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November 10th, 2009, 04:52 PM
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Don just ran an 8 second pass here in Bradenton, glad it's official. Congrats!
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 Just Another Typical Money Pit Special Thanks to: motor by Don Cruz 200-4R by Curtis Transmission misc. by Neil Young Automotive
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November 10th, 2009, 05:15 PM
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November 10th, 2009, 05:20 PM
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Last edited by Otto J; November 10th, 2009 at 05:23 PM.
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November 11th, 2009, 07:42 AM
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now thats funny!!!
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1987 Buick GN T-Top 22000 mile. Ta49 Turbo 26 lbs boost,72mm TB, Kenne Bell doghouse, PTE stretched IC, 3 inch GN1 PERFORMANCE Downpipe w/ ex. gate,42.5# Green Stripes, 9"K&N on OEM MAF, Accufab reg w/ gauge, Scanmaster, Razor's ALKY, Turbo Tweak 93 ALKY chip,Walbro and Hotwire, 160 stat,New Comp valve springs, GN1 3 inch testpipe w/ cutout, GN1 3 inch duel stainless catback. Vince Janis Stg2 200 with brake. Pat's 3200 10 inch. HR Parts rear drag bar,Coach's custom 1 3/8 chromoly upper and lower fully adjustable arms, Bilsteins, 2 inch Bell-tech drop spindles, airbags w/spacers. All frame braces and GNX Rear seat brace.HR motor mounts & tranny mount.275-60-15 MT ET Streets,TA rear girdle.Moser axles. 1964 Dodge 440 Hardtop 426 Max Wedge 1962 Chevy Biscayne PRO STREET Blown 409
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November 11th, 2009, 10:21 AM
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In the GMHTP magazine it says he is using a 275/60 wit a 3.90 gear. I was just wondering what crazy rpm he must be turning to pull that off.
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86 TR WH1 Leather,column,astroroof Hartline XFI w/6 bank egt, ITS billet 71 DBB BWR 3.5 dp w/Trbosmrt gate,ISAC controller Champ Intake,GN1's,T&D's,83's,distributor,AL2 Razor alky, P-stroke IC, 210/215 roller, Forged stroker, TA headers, HR Bar Lonnie D Stage 2, PTC 9.5 N/L, 325/50's My balls write cheques that my luck can't cash.......
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November 11th, 2009, 04:26 PM
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Cal Hartline www.HartlinePerformance.com (321)722-1563 Official TSM MPH & ET Records 2008 TSM Norwalk and 2007 & 2009 Reynolds Champion- Don Cruz 8.894@152.93 Official TSL MPH & ET Record 2007 TSL Champion- Gary Harmon 8.95@155.64 & 8.50@161 TSL-O Official TSO MPH & ET Record & Fastest Stock Susp. Buick V6 2009 TSO Top Gun Points Series Champion 2009 Norwalk & Reynolds Champion- Tony Gomes 7.971@175.47 2008 TSM Points Series Champion GSCA & BPG Champion- Jason White 9.34@147.39 2008 TSL Champion Willard Brown 8.95@154.14 2007 TSO Top Gun Points Series Champion 2004, 2006, 2008 GSCA TSO Champion- Dave Fiscus 7.979@176.74 XFI, PTE Turbo, AMS 1000 Boost Controller, PTC, on EVERY car listed above
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November 11th, 2009, 05:01 PM
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November 11th, 2009, 05:29 PM
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That is just friggen sick!
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John Wilde "She peels out, she is a sweetie." David Spade on his GN Car was stolen 3-12-10 Car was recovered 3-17-10 http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/tur...ml#post2446605
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November 11th, 2009, 05:52 PM
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Maybe the block is drilled for 1/2" studs to up the clamping and stability? That is what I would do for 8 bolt heads.
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WE4 @ 3700 lbs Street Car with AIR, 2004R, OEM COMPUTER, WIND-UP WINDOWS, ETC.  GOD BLESS AMERICA
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November 11th, 2009, 05:57 PM
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November 12th, 2009, 11:04 AM
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Per the TCI HP Calculator
¼ Mile Horsepower Calculator
MPH Weight HP 152.93 @ 3,580 = 999.34 Zowie!
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Scott Simpson TSM Point Series Director I don't make the rules, I just enforce 'em Scott231@juno.com
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