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I have the GN1 3" exhaust with the mufflers that come with it. I no longer mind driving my GN the way it sounds now. This is the best exhaust sound I've ever heard from a GN. No drone and it's a deep musclecar sound. FYI - This system is a Chinese knockoff of some other exhaust system no longer available.
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1987 Grand National 27k orig miles - 11.06 @ 123 - 3" downpipe, stock location stretch Intercooler, 60 lb injectors, TA60, Razors alky, TurboTweak SD Chip, Powerlogger with PLX wideband, Jimmy's Trans (Vigilante 5 disk lockup at 70 mph), Hoosier Drag Radials 255-50-16 |
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I know I will get flamed for this but
I like the Flowmaster 40s they sound real nice , I know they hurt tons of HP ? I have Magnaflows on mine but still like the sound of Flowmasters better , I have never heard the sound of Pitbulls anything on youtube?
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1987 Grand National... Billet 6265s , 120lb injectors , XP Double Pumper , Dave Husek built trans , Billet 9 1/2''Pro-Torque , Cotton's SLIC , RJC pp, 3''Stainless ATR exhaust , Poston's headers , Maft pro , E85 extender pro , Powerlogger , Scanmaster , 100%E85........ ![]() Signature by:mcasteel2112 |
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My vote for pitbulls from ATR also.
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Pypes' Race Pro here.
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86 GN, 4.1L w/steel caps & ARP stud/bolts, mildly ported 8445's & intake, 212/212 roller, GT6131E, TT chip, 60 lb'rs, RJC p/plate, 3" THDP, ATR stretched SLIC, Walbro 340 hotwired, UMI lca, ATR bar |
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Doug Martin, aka "D-HAM" Old Reliable, 1987 WE4 "Rat Rod" Tuned by Anderson Performance Maryland MAGNA Representative |
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86 GN "Stock" ![]() 87 Grey-T "Not so Stock" ![]() 6665BB T-netx, Champion irons, Rollercam, T&D's, Alkycontrol, Accufab TB, 65 mototrons, In tank duals, MAFT-PRO, Powerlogger, LC-1, PTE SLIC, THDP, ATR 2 1/2", Art Carr 2004R w/3200 N/L, H&R Swaybar/LCA/UCA, MT Street Radials....and still can't hook worth a $hit....
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When someone hears your car on the street they know for sure that there is something nasty under the hood.
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87GN 6776bb, stock bottom end, stock heads & intake, 206/206, 60#, PTC 10" 2800 , TT, Alkycontrol 11.20@118 mph 1.71 60' @ 23 psi87 Grand National-current 87 Turbo T Limited-Sold 87 T-Type-Sold |
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Any sound clips of the Pitbulls? On YouTube I heard a GNX on the showroom for sale that sounded great . Anyone local have these mufflers?
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1987 Grand National... Billet 6265s , 120lb injectors , XP Double Pumper , Dave Husek built trans , Billet 9 1/2''Pro-Torque , Cotton's SLIC , RJC pp, 3''Stainless ATR exhaust , Poston's headers , Maft pro , E85 extender pro , Powerlogger , Scanmaster , 100%E85........ ![]() Signature by:mcasteel2112 |
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Denis Kefallinos 86 GN On my third set of head gaskets |
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I have to agree about the ATR Pitbull mufflers sounding great on a GN. They give the car a unique sound that is all it's own. However if you don't want to be noticed while driving down the street you had better forget about the ATR Pitbull mufflers.
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'87 GN Weber built 247 CI 3.625" stroker with RJC girdle, Diamond pistons, Eagle rods, ported/polished 1.77/1.50 heads and intake, 218/212 billet roller, 1.65 Harland Sharp roller rockers, GT6152E, Mototron 60#, Alky Control, MAFT Gen2 with Extender Extreme and LC1 WB, hot wired Walbro, AFPR, Cartek FMIC, Tomka CAI, Terry Houston DP, ATR 3" single shot, PI Vigilante 3200 L/U, Moser, RJC boost controller and power plate, Scanmaster, Power Logger |
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An all black, black window, hood bulging, 500HP regal...not being noticed?
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87GN 6776bb, stock bottom end, stock heads & intake, 206/206, 60#, PTC 10" 2800 , TT, Alkycontrol 11.20@118 mph 1.71 60' @ 23 psi87 Grand National-current 87 Turbo T Limited-Sold 87 T-Type-Sold |
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'87 GN Weber built 247 CI 3.625" stroker with RJC girdle, Diamond pistons, Eagle rods, ported/polished 1.77/1.50 heads and intake, 218/212 billet roller, 1.65 Harland Sharp roller rockers, GT6152E, Mototron 60#, Alky Control, MAFT Gen2 with Extender Extreme and LC1 WB, hot wired Walbro, AFPR, Cartek FMIC, Tomka CAI, Terry Houston DP, ATR 3" single shot, PI Vigilante 3200 L/U, Moser, RJC boost controller and power plate, Scanmaster, Power Logger |
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I love the Pypes RacePros on my car. They sound great and have no drone. I used to have an SLP muffler, side outlet exhaust on my car, and it was the best sound from any gn I have ever heard, but it was the worst drone, and muffler was smashed from previous owner so it had to go.
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86 T-Type: TE44/ATR FMIC/50 lb Injectors/TRW .20/Billet Mains/Blueprinted Motor/204-214 Edlebrock Cam/Ported and Polished Heads with Matched Intake/3" THDP/Pypes Performance SS Exhaust System with RacePro Mufflers/TR Custom Parts Big Mouth and MAF Pipe/TT Chip/Translator 6.2 with 3" LT1 Impala SS MAF/Accufab FR/RJC PP/C2 Gauges/Scanmaster/Dynotech Trans/Pats 10" 3000 Stall Converter/3.42 Gears(now)/Taylor 409 Wires/Vac. Brakes Conversion/Turbonetics Boost Controller inside vehicle/UMI Upper and Lower Control Arms/Front and Rear Suspension....All NEW! Link for photos of car: From Recent to 2003 http://s50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...uick%20T-Type/ |
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Had Hooker and hated them..... My TTA loved the Pitbulls and I did too.
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They are even on sale.
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1987 Turbo T, Dark Blue Blackout Astroroof, Don Cruz Built 109, Forged Bottom End, 2xx/2xx Solid Roller, TA Headers, TA Girdle, DLS Ext. Oiling Sys., Champion GN1R Heads, PTE 71 Billet DBB HPS T4, PTE 95 Lb. Inj., PTE Plenum, RJC I-475 FMIC, RJC 4 Inch Exhaust, RJC Girdle, JW Racing Custom Forced Cold Air, JW Racing 3.5 DP, JW Racing Mini-Tub, XFI W/TC, AMS 1000, Co2, Meriere WP, 70mm TB, Tial 44 WG, Tial 50 BOV, Razor's Dual Alky, Alum. Rad., Dual Spals, 140 Billet Alt., PTC 9.5, Otto Built Stage 3 Billet 2004R, Lonnie Diers TB, Eaton Posi, Moser Axles, H&R Bar, Blabla, Street car..... ![]() www.ottosperformance.com |
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The GN1 mufflers are copies of the old ATR mufflers. I have them on my car and like I said above my only complaint about a GN was the sound, until I put these mufflers on. It's the best sounding muffler I've ever heard on a GN hands down! You're welcome to come by and hear them. I'm in the West Suburbs, or come to Great Lakes Dragaway this Saturday for the Chicagoland Buick Club race.....
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87 GN T63E, PTE FM, MSD 50's, Atr DP w/ext gate, ATR 2 1/2 duals, 5 disc Vigilante Jimmys trans HR sway bar 10.87@125.01 1.52 60' on Alkycontrol and TT Speed density chip TTA#259 6262S, 50lb inj, RJC boost controller, THDP,MT DRs. 10.80@124.00. 1.53 60' Alky control TT SD chip. PLX SM-AFR WB, Power Logger,Jimmy's trans. 3200 Vigilante 5 disc LU |
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1987 GN 2nd owner 54K miles, under construction ![]() 1986 GN T Top, 20K miles, under construction ![]() 1969 Camaro Z28 (X77) low miles original 1987 GN 2nd owner (Sold) Last edited by daves87gn; June 15th, 2009 at 12:36 AM. |
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I doubt ATR actually made the Pitbull mufflers. Some muffler company had to me making them for ATR.
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Here's my car when it had the old Flowmasters on it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKwDLRJXkuo Here it is with a straight shot 3 inch single pipe and Ultraflow muffler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5_a5Bs4fXc You be the judge.... I can say it definitely has more top end power with the 3 inch set up....
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![]() 1987 Regal LC2, hot-wired, Walbro 255 lph fuel pump, blue top injectors, TE-60 turbo, Accufab adjustable fuel pressure regulator, Turbo Tweak alky chip, GN110T 212/206 duration cam, Duttweiler necked I/C, Alkycontrol, 3 inch mandrel bent Dynomax exhaust, Scanmaster, OD lockout detent plate, trunk braces, jounce braces, 145 mph speedo, RJC power plate and RJC boost controller http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/how...onversion.html |
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I like no mufflers, sounds and performs great.
There isn't a muffler that flows better than a Hooker Max Flow, it literally flows like a straight pipe which is great for any FI car. LS1TECH
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Mike HOT AIR 87GN T-Top, down 468lbs E85, Twin M15's and NO FMIC Rebuild #2, BLK/BL Paint w/Custom Metal Flares, VPE Stg 3 Heads, 210/215 Roller Cam, TA49 w Tornado, Billet Drum/Input, PTC 9.5", T Brake, Inland 3.5" DS, KB Plenum/70mm TB, Razor's Post Turbo Alky, Devils Own Pre Turbo Alky, TT E85 Chip, 80lb Inj, Denso 280 Pump with Racetronix Kit,-8/-6 SS Fuel Lines, MBC, Pwr Plt, Turbo Protector and -3 Feedline, Preluber, F Body Rad, Z06 Maf, Translator, Volt Master, Poston Headers, THSS 3.5" DP/Test Pipe, ATR SS 2.5" Y Pipe w/No Muffs, PST 2" Drop, Poly Bushings, Boxed Upper/Lower Arms, QA1 Rear Shocks, Vacuum Brakes, Aerospace 10.75" Brakes w/SS lines, Alum Drums, Polished Autodrags 15x8/15x10, 275/60 Nitto 555Rs |
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Sounds like most people like what they have.
I use a 3in $25 summit muffler off of a straight pipe and with a turndown, its quiet to me!
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68 Lc2 Chevelle, stock longblock/conv/trans, 2.73 gears, 40#, LS1 MAF translator+, extender E, stretch stock IC, 3in DP/Exhaust, Home built alky, Scanmaster 2.2, powerlogger ET: 12.68 @107.75 2.0 60ft |
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First thing I noticed was the sound. They sound like crap. Specially WOT. According to the seat dyno, the car did not run any different just sounded worse. I was soon back at the speed shop picking up some more flowmasters. They sound the best hands down. The car runs just as strong if not stronger with the flowmasters.Be glad to take anyone for a ride. You too can become a believer. Right John? LOL! |
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87GN 6776bb, stock bottom end, stock heads & intake, 206/206, 60#, PTC 10" 2800 , TT, Alkycontrol 11.20@118 mph 1.71 60' @ 23 psi87 Grand National-current 87 Turbo T Limited-Sold 87 T-Type-Sold |
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Yes they made the mufflers. I went down and pick up my system when they were still open, and they took me on a tour and I saw them making them there.
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87 GN, PTE 52, BGC stretch intercooler, MSD 50's, AC 9" non/lock, ATR 3'' downpipe with ext wastegate, ATR 2 1/2" exh, MM translator, PMAC tranny, 65mm thottle body and upper plem, All bolt on's only! Full weight. just turned 21,000k 7.31@94mph 1/8th. 11.70 best mph 115. 87 turbo regal, TA Block, Forged, Crank, Rods, Pistions, Billet 214/210 roller cam, Ported TA Heads,TA Headers, 70bb hpq turbo, XFI, Razor Alky,double pumper, Bigwood Racing 3 1/2" downpipe with 50mm turbosmart wg, RJC megacooler,9.5 PTC, Extreme Automatics 2004r, etc. Street car Thanks to Nick Micale, Mike Zimmerman, Hartline Performace. Travis Treadway |
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My 2 1/2" Pit Bulls droned, but sounded great. I have added the Ultraflow crossflow & got rid of the drone & it is quieter. Pit Bulls & Ultraflow are straight through & almost no performance difference compared to open dump.
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87T, Baer 12", VR4, Hydroboost, KB cold air, HRP & S lowers, Cibie lights, hotwire, Denso, digitails |
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