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Oh yes, very much so!
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85 GN, converted to 87 IC'ed stuff. TE-44, 60lb Mototrons, KB 70mm TB and plenum, 204/214 cam, 3" THDP, test pipe w/dump, Neal Chance 3,000 converter, wired 340, TLink 4.0, F body rad, Intrepid dual fans, DIY: ported big valve heads, ported stock intake, 3" single shot with bullet and hi-flow cat, turbo saver, stock boxed uppers and lowers, poly bushings EVERYWHERE. (like working on my own junk... ) Turbo Tweak chips!!! Razors Alky (haven't even got to play with it yet... DAILY DRIVER: Even been cross-country a few times.
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Any new news on this?
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87' GN 82,000 miles. 30 over balanced and blueprinted. Ported and polished cylinder heads. Bigger stainless steel values. New precision PT 52 turbocharger, precision front-mount intercooler. 43.5 lbs injectors. 340 Walboro intank fuel pump, hot wired. Terry Houston 3" stainless downpipe, adjustable wastegate. Kenne Bell ram air scoop, K&N air filter. Solid upper and lower rear control arms. Pinion snubber. Drive shaft safety loop. Rebuilt front end, including ball joints, etc. Fiberglass bumpers. New plugs/wires/coil pack. New Casper's LED cam sensor. New Crank Sensor. NGK UR5 @ 30. Transmission: 10" PTC locking converter, TCI super kit, new boost valve, 10 vane pump kit, heat treated stator, machined pump, new gov, new high gear drum, new pressure plate. |
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Looks nice, and is a nice alternative. Though, isn't 400 series stainless way better than 300? I used to get stainless from my fathers shop a long time ago, to make knife blades, and the 300 series was NEVER as good as the 400 stuff. (it's a night and day difference)
Is there another type of stainless rating system I'm missing?
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Coming to a local cruise strip near you this May, RJC girdled 109 w/ forged crank, custom roller cam, TA61, 60lb mototrons, 10" ptc 2800 N/L, power plate, 23 row slic, razors alky, gen 2 translator, bmr 4" integral maf intake pipe, extender extreme alky chip, rjc engine brace, russ merritt wires, walbro pump w/ hotwire, wbo2 w/ powerlogger/scanmaster, 2.5" dual stainless exhaust, & 10.5 mt et drags, coupled to a hofer trans. |
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I had a 4" Single on my car and if it is sound you want and a deep rumble there is nothing like it! I have heard dual 3" and it is nice. But I guess it also comes down to the muffler or mufflers used or the lack of to get what you want. The one I had made for my car was awesome and the guy built his own mufflers also. they looked like a small beer keg !
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http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/637073/2 Current pics:http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=168306 87T-Te-45a/V1/72"s/DP/Girdle/Je's/70TB&DH/3400 911/CenturyTrans/PortedIrons/TAFrontCover/4"SingleShot/4"CAI/Ari.GN Rad/Hrparts.upsanlows+ more...10:82@124 @23LBS With 1.73 60ft more http://videos.streetfire.net/video/A...BA3DA9822F.htm New Exhaust>> http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=194282[url] BURNOUT http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/turbo-videos-picture-library/201365-small-burnout-other-night-lowes.html Razors Dual Nozel Alky via 26 lbs! |
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Another! Was a favorite on the car. But there was lots of drone noise inside but hardly drive the car..
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http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/637073/2 Current pics:http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=168306 87T-Te-45a/V1/72"s/DP/Girdle/Je's/70TB&DH/3400 911/CenturyTrans/PortedIrons/TAFrontCover/4"SingleShot/4"CAI/Ari.GN Rad/Hrparts.upsanlows+ more...10:82@124 @23LBS With 1.73 60ft more http://videos.streetfire.net/video/A...BA3DA9822F.htm New Exhaust>> http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=194282[url] BURNOUT http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/turbo-videos-picture-library/201365-small-burnout-other-night-lowes.html Razors Dual Nozel Alky via 26 lbs! |
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O.K., not sure why I had this idea.
Would the exhaust temps post-cat. be too hot for alluminum exhaust piping.I understand a road race car would be hard on it, but an occasional pass might be fine. Just a thought. dissapates heat quickly, light weight, and wont rust. I'm not sure what cost would be but Stainless isn't cheap.
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Any more update to this system? I'm mainly concerned with sound. Could you throw another muffler in the standard location to quiet it down even more?
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Coming to a local cruise strip near you this May, RJC girdled 109 w/ forged crank, custom roller cam, TA61, 60lb mototrons, 10" ptc 2800 N/L, power plate, 23 row slic, razors alky, gen 2 translator, bmr 4" integral maf intake pipe, extender extreme alky chip, rjc engine brace, russ merritt wires, walbro pump w/ hotwire, wbo2 w/ powerlogger/scanmaster, 2.5" dual stainless exhaust, & 10.5 mt et drags, coupled to a hofer trans. |
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4" side exit
i just finished my 4" exhaust last night. i made my own muffler and used mild steel. it is going to exit just before the back tire..i like the look and saves a little weight but it is going to be loud
...........Bob
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Bob Wren 1987 GN 74k best 10.15 at 134.26mph 1.49 60ft 4 bolt GT70 p-trim,TA headers,ported heads & intake,72lb injectors,my double pumper,roller cam,RJC front mount,3.5" dp,4" single exhaust,th400,trans brake,9.5 PTC..all 6 a popping |
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Here is how I built a single muffler dual tail pipe system. It is a little louder than I wanted. The drone is pretty loud, too. I am going to go to a three muffler system. (IF I keep my car). The fabrication was a PAIN to get both tail pipes over one side. Works good, though, and different than anyone else's.
New exhaust system Jason, what is the flow path inside the muffler? Is it just like the ATR system? If so, it can be modified to be a dual pass 3" cross flow. (that is what Dennis Hogan runs on his StageII car--modified ATR muffler just like the one pictured on your system) If you can make that muffler a dual pass cross flow in 3", I want one (or ten). If you make that system a three muffler system, I think you would have LOTS of people interested. VERY quiet, and virtually NO drone. (and flow well enough to run 150+ in the 1/4) As a side note, with a three muffler system on a 900+hp car..........a Weldon fuel pump is LOUD!
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Bullet Muffler
I put a 3 inch bullet muffler in place of the cat. It helped to quiet it some more.
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87 Limited TA49, 50lb Inj, 210/210 cam, factory sealed heads with roller rockers, RJC Power Plate & Boost Controller, Houston 3 in. DP, RJC 3 Inch Dual Exhaust, Volt Booster, SMC Alcohol Inj., 9 1/2 Vigilante multi-disk converter 115,000 miles on original motor. 12.04 @ 115mph...4500 Elevation. |
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thats a pretty good idea..... nice
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Owner of Royal-T [1987 Turbo T Limited] destined to run in the low 11's [in street trim] and be featured in a national publication •BEST so far 12.1x @ 112.9X• BEST MPH 114 ALL on 18" Toyo street tires - ZERO boost launch and full tank of PUMP gas - stock "109" block, stock heads, and lots of good stuff ALL MIXED WITH A LIL' ALKY
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87 GN MOTOR OUT FOR REMODEL,6765 p-trim turbo,60lb injectors,70mm tb, ported plenum,Ported irons big valves ported lower intake,Turbosmart manual controler,RJC power plate/pullies,accufab afpr,340m+hotwire, 4 inch pipe ls1 maf,maf translator, RJC Megacooler Intercooler,ck stage II trans/with brake,10'ptc converter,3.42,H & R rear sway bar,razor dual nozzle,tt alky chip(6.0), lc-1 wbo2,scanmaster,powerlogger 87 Turbo T Stock motor,pt52 turbo,60lb injectors,70mm tb,ported upper,RJC plate/pullies,340m+hotwire,accufab fpr,stock maf,perscion front mount, Dynotech trans,911 converter,3.42,gn1 stainless headers,external dump,3 DP,3in exhaust/borla mufflers,Razor single,tt alky chip(5.6),scanmaster |
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the first two places we sent the system could not reproduce it even though both said they could no problem. We now have it at a 3rd place hoping they can do something for us.
we will post something as soon as we get a heads up from them. thanks guys!
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Race Jace, Jason Cramer RJC Racing The leaders in Performance Buick Product Developement. Click here to e-mail RJC Racing 1st ever 9 sec TSM car!! 2002, 2003 & 2004 GSNats heads up TSM class winner 87 GN TSM Street car 9.63@141 RJC Girdled stock block,200 trans, RJC A.D.Power Plate-p, full interior, cold A/C, with lil Jace's GN carseat in the back! New best 6.05 @ 113 1/8mi at 2007 West coast nats in Phoenix. (To bad I did not get a chance to run the whole 1/4 at this event....) |
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Hi Jason
Any sound clips of your new 3'. I'm really interested in buying one, but would like to hear what it sounds like. Chris
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87 GN, T-tops, 43k miles, Walbro 340, Hotwire kit, 60# injectors, TT chip, Energy Suspension body bushings, Powerlogger, LC-1 Wideband O2 with gauge, RJC boost controller, RJC power plate, SE Turbo downpipe, Pypes exhaust 03 Chevy Duramax/Allison Edge Juice, AFE stg 2, MBRP duals |
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Looks alot like the old ATR crossflow, hopefully no drone though. The ATR stuff drones like a SOB
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************************** 1987 GN - E85, MAFTPro / WB Correction , 83s, TA-61 ,24 Row Mease Stock Location, Hurst Lightining Rods 1987 White Turbo-T - E85 Daily Driver Need chips, go here: Http://www.turbotweak.com ************************** It is what you learn after "You know Everything" that is the most important. |
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I would also like to hear a sound clip. Wonder if the crossflow system would out flow 2 1/2 inch dual exhaust?
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Dual Nozzle Alky Control, Champion Intake, Merritt Built Heads, Comp Roller Cam, T&D Roller Rockers, Precision Stock Location Intercooler, Diamond Racing Pistons, Cometic Head Gaskets(don't leak) Balanced Rotating Assembly, TH Downpipe, RJC 3" Up Pipe, Accufab 70mm Throttle Body, RJC Power Plate and 70mm Precision Plenum, Motron 60's, Turbo Tweak Chip, Precision 6776 DBB Turbo, Precision Turbo Saver, Scanmaster, Powerlogger, RCJ Engine Girdle, Full ARP Fastners, Roller Master Timing Set, Russ Merritt Plug Wires, LS1 MAF with Translator, Powerlogger, Scanmaster, MT Drag Radials, RJC Pulleys, UMI Control Arms, Auto Meter Gauges, HR Parts Rear Sway Bar Thanks to: Merritt Turbo Buick Performance RJC Racing Alky Control Hartline Performance |
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I would like to hear a Sound clip as well, anyone want to buy my Cotton's SS 2 1/2 ??First one with $450.00 gets it local only though.
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This is the first time I've seen this and I'm in. I still haven't decided completely on one.
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Just a another twisted Moderator. Wanna know how well your President is doing. I GOT LAID OFF TODAY!!! 7/10/09 Working again now and lost $4160 a year. Thanks OBOMBOUT! My new project. http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/sho...ml#post2230675 See where it leads. ![]() How to build a B4Black turbo? Take a look. http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/bef...ted-equal.html |
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87 GN, T-tops, 43k miles, Walbro 340, Hotwire kit, 60# injectors, TT chip, Energy Suspension body bushings, Powerlogger, LC-1 Wideband O2 with gauge, RJC boost controller, RJC power plate, SE Turbo downpipe, Pypes exhaust 03 Chevy Duramax/Allison Edge Juice, AFE stg 2, MBRP duals |
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THIS RJC 3 EXHAUST IS ON MY CAR , AT CRUISING SPEED 45MPH AND UP IS VERY QUIET INSIDE , I DONT HERE NO DRONE JUST THE RADIO , GREAT SYSTEM,
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1987 GN 10second street car with A/C , looking all factory stock FASTEST PUMPGAS 1970 GRANDPRIX IN THE COUNTRY . 10.38 AT 129MPH 4,100 LBS PONTIAC POWER. 1978 PONTIAC GRAND AM NEW 1,000+HP PUMP GAS CAR COMING OH AND ITS PONTIAC POWER ALSO ![]()
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Thats very good to hear. Thank you on the feedback. Do you happen to have any sound clips?
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87 GN, T-tops, 43k miles, Walbro 340, Hotwire kit, 60# injectors, TT chip, Energy Suspension body bushings, Powerlogger, LC-1 Wideband O2 with gauge, RJC boost controller, RJC power plate, SE Turbo downpipe, Pypes exhaust 03 Chevy Duramax/Allison Edge Juice, AFE stg 2, MBRP duals |
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I CAN GET SOUND CLIPS. I ASKED JASON THAT WHEN I TALKED TO HIM AND HE SAID I SHOULD PROBABLY DO THAT .ITS VERY THROATY AT IDLE ESPECIALLY OF COURSE AT COLD START UP , SOUNDS GOOD . I HAVE TO GET MY CAR TUNED FIRST WITH THE BS3 NEXT WEEK , SO AFTER THAT WOULD BE BETTER . ALL I CAN SAY ITS VERY QUIET CRUISING DOWN THE ROAD . MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE THAT HAS IT CAN DO A SOUND BITE ON IT .
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1987 GN 10second street car with A/C , looking all factory stock FASTEST PUMPGAS 1970 GRANDPRIX IN THE COUNTRY . 10.38 AT 129MPH 4,100 LBS PONTIAC POWER. 1978 PONTIAC GRAND AM NEW 1,000+HP PUMP GAS CAR COMING OH AND ITS PONTIAC POWER ALSO ![]()
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87 Limited TA49, 50lb Inj, 210/210 cam, factory sealed heads with roller rockers, RJC Power Plate & Boost Controller, Houston 3 in. DP, RJC 3 Inch Dual Exhaust, Volt Booster, SMC Alcohol Inj., 9 1/2 Vigilante multi-disk converter 115,000 miles on original motor. 12.04 @ 115mph...4500 Elevation. |
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1987 GN 10second street car with A/C , looking all factory stock FASTEST PUMPGAS 1970 GRANDPRIX IN THE COUNTRY . 10.38 AT 129MPH 4,100 LBS PONTIAC POWER. 1978 PONTIAC GRAND AM NEW 1,000+HP PUMP GAS CAR COMING OH AND ITS PONTIAC POWER ALSO ![]()
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