Sometimes you just gotta start over....

[DonWG]

Run plated plugs and learn how to read them. They are a very valuable and accurate tuning tool in the world of alcohol. NGK plugs are the standard for alcohol engines. One to three thread burn off is the standard target. Start rich enough to where there is no plating burn off and lean it out until the plating begins to burn off. Watch the heat markings in the ground strap too. Halfway down the ground strap. A good safety measure while you're tuning her in is to cut back the ground electrodes until you have a safe tuneup.

[DonWG]

Carefully collect data while you work it on the safe side. Don't get greedy too quick. Busted rods are a biaatch.

[notacarlo]

DiscoStu's pants are still tight.

[DonWG]

Another maintenance tip. I don't care what top lube you're using, if any. Flush the fuel system of methanol if the car will be sitting for over 2 days. If you're not using a top lube, flush the system at the end of each day. Don't get lazy on this one. It will save you some fuel system parts and prevent any clogging and sticking problems.

I personally have gone a week without flushing using a top lube, but it's really not worth the risk.

Best top lube in the world. Klotz.

For testing runs, use a top lube. For class events, you may need to run without top lube. Somtimes fuel additives are not allowed and the fuel will need to pass a hydrameter test. Little water content is key to passing this test.

If you can't tell, I'm excited for you guys. You're running a true racing fuel. Can't wait to see it after you have it dialed in.

[JZ 97 SS 1500]

Originally Posted by SGRIM

THANKS GUYS!!!!!!!!!

Man talk about music to my ears


Did anyone notice the turbo's?

WOW....they look great and sounds great too.

[gbsean]

any other updates...its been 2 days

[JayC]

Well, lets see. 99% of the wiring is done. The only remaining wiring is the air shifter, the chute launcher and the transbrake. Today Randy got the EGTs wired up and some other odds and ends done. The EGTs looked really intimidating but it wasnt bad once we broke it down and got a game plan together. They all worked on the first try, which was a plus.

If all goes according to plan, we'll have the car on the dyno tomorrow.

[TurboV6Sonoma]

Originally Posted by JayC

Well, lets see. 99% of the wiring is done. The only remaining wiring is the air shifter, the chute launcher and the transbrake. Today Randy got the EGTs wired up and some other odds and ends done. The EGTs looked really intimidating but it wasnt bad once we broke it down and got a game plan together. They all worked on the first try, which was a plus.

If all goes according to plan, we'll have the car on the dyno tomorrow.

So is it NOT coming to reynolds??????

[JOHNDEEREGN]

Originally Posted by JayC

If all goes according to plan, we'll have the car on the dyno tomorrow.

Cannot wait to see that Log!!

[JayC]

Originally Posted by TurboV6Sonoma

So is it NOT coming to reynolds??????

No.. Shane is sick and we wanted a little more time to work some kinks out. most likely we'll take it to the 1/8th mile track here this weekend.

Tomorrow should be a big update day.

[JayC]

Randy had it on the dyno this morning. Video should be coming soon

[John Wilde]

Originally Posted by JayC

Randy had it on the dyno this morning. Video should be coming soon

Great, I am really looking forward to it!

[JOHNDEEREGN]

Aw hell dats what I am talking about

[JayC]

BADDEST BUICK YOU'LL EVER SEE DYNO!- Video

Word is the 3rd hit was over 1000 horsepower at the rear wheels. EGTs never made it over 1000 degrees.

[JOHNDEEREGN]

Originally Posted by JayC

BADDEST BUICK YOU'LL EVER SEE DYNO!- Video

Word is the 3rd hit was over 1000 horsepower at the rear wheels. EGTs never made it over 1000 degrees.

That thing is just sickat the 1:58 mark it looked like it hopped of the dyno on the rears a little

[UNDER-PRESSURE]

I can't wait to see the turbo'd BIG block in that car.

[John Wilde]

Originally Posted by JayC

BADDEST BUICK YOU'LL EVER SEE DYNO!- Video

Word is the 3rd hit was over 1000 horsepower at the rear wheels. EGTs never made it over 1000 degrees.

What is your target EGTs in this combination?:
The boost response seems pretty good.
I hope to see more as you guys have time.

[kenny]

What's the dyno peg at?

[TURBOKID]

1800hp

[TURBO54]

it is rated for 1800 rwhp and 200mph. we have seen 1600+

[JOHNDEEREGN]

Originally Posted by TURBO54

it is rated for 1800 rwhp and 200mph. we have seen 1600+

Please pinch that last 200 (+) out of it

[TurboV6Sonoma]

So did the car max the dyno out???? or will it???

[TURBO54]

it would be nice to. prolly not . Besides i would rather turn it up at the track. It does seem to like boost. We will make a couple more pulls and be at the track thursday or friday at VMP. Depends on how cold it gets.

[John Wilde]

Guys remember that 15% drive train loss is not uncommon.
So 1800RWHP is more like 2070 at the flywheel.
I think 1800 at the flywheel for this motor would be fantastic.
I don't think Randy, Shane and Jay want to push the motor to make 200o plus.
It would not be needed for the record anyway.

[gbsean]

does not seem that they....ran it up to full boost or RPM...think they were being conservative....still an awesome display....definatly know there is alot more in that car.....sounded awesome and loved all the crap moving away from the car like is was possessed

[JOHNDEEREGN]

Originally Posted by John Wilde

Guys remember that 15% drive train loss is not uncommon.
So 1800RWHP is more like 2070 at the flywheel.
I think 1800 at the flywheel for this motor would be fantastic.
I don't think Randy, Shane and Jay want to push the motor to make 200o plus.
It would not be needed for the record anyway.

Thanks John,. wasn't even thinking about that. I like the saying under your avitar as well.... She is in our prayers!

[John Wilde]

Originally Posted by gbsean

does not seem that they....ran it up to full boost or RPM...think they were being conservative....still an awesome display....definatly know there is alot more in that car.....sounded awesome and loved all the crap moving away from the car like is was possessed

Let the power of boost compel you?

[John Wilde]

Originally Posted by JOHNDEEREGN

Thanks John,. wasn't even thinking about that. I like the saying under your avitar as well.... She is in our prayers!

It is too easy to get caught up in our own BS.
I am really trying to keep perspective and pray for others in need.
I know how much it helped me when my son had his operation.

[Otto J]

Im sure this car will make big power,but I doubt highly it would put 1600 to the tires.

[DonWG]

Originally Posted by John Wilde

What is your target EGTs in this combination?:
The boost response seems pretty good.
I hope to see more as you guys have time.

The engine will tell him what EGT to run.

That wasn't a dyno pull. That was a hiccup. What a monster. Time to play with the boost controller.

Keep a check on your engine oil for excessive contamination during these rich dyno pulls. Lots of steam in that crankcase.

[SGRIM]

I am so happy to see that thing jump like that... As Don stated that wasn't a full pull by any means. Just a teaser

I have come to some realizations recently. This motor or any Buick V6 isn't going to make 2000hp, at the FW or RW. I will be THRILLED to see close to 1400 at the wheels to be honest... That would get the job done and then some.... Dyno numbers to not really mean all that much IMO, the track tells the tell.... Never the less I am happy as a .....

I think we may need a converter change already, going to talk to Dusty and get that going...

[TURBOKID]

Originally Posted by SGRIM

I am so happy to see that thing jump like that... As Don stated that wasn't a full pull by any means. Just a teaser

I have come to some realizations recently. This motor or any Buick V6 isn't going to make 2000hp, at the FW or RW. I will be THRILLED to see close to 1400 at the wheels to be honest... That would get the job done and then some.... Dyno numbers to not really mean all that much IMO, the track tells the tell.... Never the less I am happy as a .....

I think we may need a converter change already, going to talk to Dusty and get that going...

Shane you are now seeing the light You are talking right now, you should be able to see that or really close to it, and with it all right at the track you should be able to do what you set out for. Just a thought and I know randy has thought about it because we have talked about it, Maybe you should get a smaller tire for the back loose that much more weight and you want have to fight the tire shake you are going to have with those steam rollers. Just thinking out loud good luck

[DonWG]

Get that tuneup closer before you make a decision on the T/C.

Right at converter stall, you should find that you will have to pull quite a bit of fuel from it. I suspect that the rough running in the video was close to stall speed? With the engine running like that at stall, you cannot make a fair determination about the stall speed. Not to mention that there is no way the turbos are going to spool with that missing and overrich condition going on.

[TURBO54]

the rich start up was caused by turning the coils off first. It left some extra fuel in the motor. So after checking the plugs we spin the motor over to clear out any left over fuel. I was checking the air fuel and setting the boost level. That is why it was only a short pull. will have to add a little fuel during boost transition. Timing is still low. The funny thing is seeing the boost gauge accelerate faster than the tach. These turbos spool well. I think we will run around 19 to 24 pounds ........each. The a/f was in the 3.8 on low boost and creeping up to 4.0 with higher boost, will need more fuel prolly 2200 to 2500 lbs per hour. It was at 1950 on the last pull.

[TURBO54]

our first attempt on the brake netted 5 psi in 2.8 seconds. That was on the lowest boost setting. The first pull was only 7 psi and that is what spring is in the gates.