GM testing Methanol in T-types?

[garyk1970]

pic of the tank.

[garyk1970]

maybe you can see where the "federal methonal fleet" stickers were on each c pillar.

[garyk1970]

trunk lock gadgets,and a trim piece around the trunk lock said to only come on a limited ? Donnies car had this trim piece too. is it an special order thing?

[garyk1970]

this vaccum switch controls the second fuel pump at 4psi.

[garyk1970]

gas door warnings

[jgme]

Here are some published reports from that project.

"Results From the First Year of Operation of the Federal Methanol Fleet at Oak Ridge National Laboratory" by R. N. McGill, B. H. West, S. L. Hillis, and J. W. Hodgson. Oak Ridge National Laboratory, ORNL/TM-11229, June, 1989.

"Results From the Second Year of Operation of the Federal Methanol Fleet at Oak Ridge National Laboratory" by B. H. West, R. N. McGill, and S. L. Hillis. Oak Ridge National Laboratory, ORNL/TM-11622, September, 1990.

"Federal Methanol Fleet Project Final Report" by B. H. West, R. N. McGill, S. L. Hillis, and J. W. Hodgson. Oak Ridge National Laboratory, ORNL/TM-12278, March, 1993.

[vader87]

I also saw SMOKINTTYPE's. He slid sidways and hit a curb with both side tires, launching it up in the air and landing back on the roof. Kinda wierd looking seeing no damage on the sides and a cruched roof. They were pulling the motor and other stuff when I was there. The fuel pump is in mine now!

[RUQWKNF27]

No my fuel pump is in your's now!

[Project TNX]

Cool thread, I'm envious.

[garyk1970]

got to meet Donnie and Scott at B.G.,cool guys. ive been reading up on these reports and here is what ive found so far;

1) 10 CARS!!!!!!!!! five were with the methanol coversion, five tested as oem to compare to a gas car. theres five test cars out there people dont even know they have....look closer at your blue colum shift cars....

2) one hundred different test drivers gave their opinions on fuel enconomy,power,etc. yes they like the power

3)methanol cars were converted by an outside source,not gm. Michigan Automotive Research Corporation.

will read the whole report and let you guys know what i find out thats interesting.

thanks to jgme for the info, very cool.

Originally Posted by jgme

Here are some published reports from that project.

"Results From the First Year of Operation of the Federal Methanol Fleet at Oak Ridge National Laboratory" by R. N. McGill, B. H. West, S. L. Hillis, and J. W. Hodgson. Oak Ridge National Laboratory, ORNL/TM-11229, June, 1989.

"Results From the Second Year of Operation of the Federal Methanol Fleet at Oak Ridge National Laboratory" by B. H. West, R. N. McGill, and S. L. Hillis. Oak Ridge National Laboratory, ORNL/TM-11622, September, 1990.

"Federal Methanol Fleet Project Final Report" by B. H. West, R. N. McGill, S. L. Hillis, and J. W. Hodgson. Oak Ridge National Laboratory, ORNL/TM-12278, March, 1993.

[tb3]

Hell,.. I just want one of those tanks!! I'd love to have all the extra fuel capacity in my t type. I hate going to the gas station.

edit: oh yeah, my (blue) 84 t type had the same little chrome piece that goes around trunk lock

[bison]

I saw one at BG at the Holiday Inn. We were parked right next to it. I recognized it right away with the big decal on the pillar, then confirmed this looking underneath it. The bumper fillers were blown out. Car was in decent shape though.

[denn454]

so was this an emissions thing or was this just for power?

are the cars still able to run on methanol? seems like there could be a ton of potental for huge power with them.

too bad my old blue bench seat colum shift T wasn't one of the other test cars...

[PEACHS]

The last Buicks at Bristol event a fellow had one for sale i think he was from North Carolina, he also had a TTa for sale too. Those are some very interesting cars.

[cool 84]

And I thought all this time my hotair was cool because it had factory wiring to the "power injection" light that lights up when you put 12v to it. These methanol cars are very interesting.

[garyk1970]

that was my car! the tech sesion was a waste of time,huh? ive got bumper fillers now my wife made up the c pillar stickers on magnetic signs to cover the old spots.

Originally Posted by bison

I saw one at BG at the Holiday Inn. We were parked right next to it. I recognized it right away with the big decal on the pillar, then confirmed this looking underneath it. The bumper fillers were blown out. Car was in decent shape though.

[garyk1970]

Originally Posted by denn454

so was this an emissions thing or was this just for power?

are the cars still able to run on methanol? seems like there could be a ton of potental for huge power with them.

too bad my old blue bench seat colum shift T wasn't one of the other test cars...

ive been reading the report(its almost fivety pages long) and the test was to see if running methanol was going to be cost effective alternative to gas to help reduce our dependence on gasoline.

just put a special chip/injectors and my car will be ready.

look closer at any t blue/blue no options, column shift.five were not changed in any way,just driven to compare to the meth cars. here are the five non meth car numbers (this number and a federal meth stamp will be on the owners manual)
1) 9391
2) 9393
3) 9395
4) 9397
5) 9399

heres the five meth car numbers;

1) 9390
2) 9392
3) 9394
4) 9396 (my car #)
5) 9398

[garyk1970]

Originally Posted by tb3

Hell,.. I just want one of those tanks!! I'd love to have all the extra fuel capacity in my t type. I hate going to the gas station.

edit: oh yeah, my (blue) 84 t type had the same little chrome piece that goes around trunk lock

if i would have drove my car to ky from ga i could have on one tank of fuel!!!!!!!!!! not fun when super unleaded is $3 gal and it holds 30 gal. that hundred dollar bill GONE.