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GN1 Performance 3.625 Steel Crankshaft
Full Throttle is offering these on their website. Is anyone running one? Price is $799.00 I'm looking for one for a mild off-stage II motor. Good quality? Thanks for the input.
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Wow prices have gone up....I bought mine from HyeTech Performance and it was right around $425 I think.
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Cranks 3.625
Well I am assuming that the GN1 performance cranks are being machined or produced by GN1 Performance vs a China piece. I forget that BA Performance is still making cranks... Are they supplying Weber and DLS?
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EPH 2:8-9 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” 85 WH1 T-type converted to intercooled. Champion ported intake and doghouse, pplate, Accufab 65mm, ported GN1s , 55s, 212-212 Comp roller, Razor alcohol single nozel .040 TRW, RJC pulleys, girdle, Precision stock location, Precision 67 H cover turbo , Billet Circle D Kurtz 3200 stall, Eaton, LS1 brakes, Bilsteins, Belltechs, Lonnie Diers tranny, Beehive springs of Hendricks Racing prepped by Scott Schumacher. Finally building a Stage II... goal is to finish it and still be happily married to the same wife
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other guys purchaced some of the old designed pieces (left overs). Our new 3.625 cranks are wide journal with several upgrades. We also have 3.400 narrow journal with the upgrades. We have plenty in stock . Our new rods are not to far out for a complete rotating assembly that will easily support 1000+ HP.
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Wow alot names mentioned in here...
How about support the vendors that support the board guys...
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Everyone Please Read! Policy Notice On TB!
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The new cranks are awesome.The upgrades you had done really make YOUR cranks stand apart from the rest !!!
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Cranks
Thanks Don coming from you that really means alot. Wait till you see the new
stuff heading your way in a few weeks, it will blow away everything else you've ever seen
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Bryan
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http://www.cottonsperformance.com/ ![]() DSR Member 030 87 GN moonroof with 43k RPE 249 c.i.d. girdled 9.6:1 stroker. Fired-up 03/13/2010 Champion GN1 alum, 224 hyd roller cam,Morel lifters, Scorpion rockers, Turbonetics GT-K 850 BB, FAST XFI, 72# inj., Turbonetics Racegate & boost controller, Cottons FMIC, Cottons DP and 4” cold air kit, Razors Dual nozzle ALKYCONTROL, Reds Double Pumper, HR bar, Metco adjustable uppers & billet lowers, RJC Powerplate, Champion plenum spacer, Precision turbo saver, Ported intake and exhaust by me, 275/60/15 MT DR’s. 199 MPH dash upgrade by Caspers. Special thanks to my Wife, Jack Cotton, Bobby @ RPE, Ronnie Martin for powdercoating
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My friend just purchased a kit from Weber and it was sold with rods, pistons, bearings and crank. Well we had the crank checked out and it needed to be cut. Any of the China cranks that I have seen need to be cut. My last one had crowning on center of the journals. If they are cut you might want to get it heat treated.
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The GN1 Performance cranks are from SCAT. Their stroker kit includes SCAT rods too. They are NOT as good as the wide journal cranks previously mentioned by Dan. If you want to run high to mid 9's maxed out, the SCAT crank will be fine. But if you want to run real serious, go with a wide journal crank from DLS.
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BTW that GN1 Performance stroker kit takes quite a bit of machine work to make fit in a stock block. More than normal. The rods are oversized and will hit the cam without proper machine work. The crank needs quite a bit of work too. I'm pretty confident Weber makes their own crank or they may be using the same crank Dan uses. I would try them first.
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If you will read the post Dan is the vendor that left over the BS... Thanks for trying to stir a stinking pot...If I had a problem with ANYBODY I WOULD MAKE IT KNOWN! You guys that are swingers kill me... First you thought we took cheap shots at Cal now Dan... If you think anyone hurts your idol of the month you can't stand it Sometimes it comes off as 2nd grade crap...Some of you fight over your hero's on here more than what is going on in real life... Get over yourselves people. I think as much of these vendors as you do... I am tired of certain members turning ant hills in to mountains... Far as I am concerned you can sign off and never come back, we don't need the BS here!
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Scott Ps, if you want, I can get you a one off billet crank!!
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Dan at DLS is as anal as it gets. IMO when a engine builder gets involved in the production of these cranks and adds improvements to a rotating assembly with his seal of approval, and is excited on its outcome.
Wrap it up, I'll take it.
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We actually have seen this crank and we do support this board. The crank is NOT made by Cat and is NOT any sort of leftover Cat, CAT never had leftovers all there inventory along with some future inventory all went to TA Perf which is why no one else has any, TA paid for them up front. I was offered this option but declined based on the health and delivery time of the company. This new crank has a host of improvments over the old cranks but retains the narrow journal so that a Scat, K1 or Stock rod can be used. The K1 rod will not hit like the Scat rod mentioned. These are made in China (just like the DLS/BA which is another quality unit), they are made by the same company that makes cranks for Scat and other US distributors. Hope this clears up some confusion. If you bought one and had a problem why did you not just send it back instead of paying someone to fix it?
Mike
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Thanks for clearing that up Mike. Are the cranks internal or external balanced?
Billy T. gnxtc2@aol.com
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The builders have to get involved or their probably wouldnt be any cranks around. Anyone could get involved if they wanted to front the $ and get at least 200 of them. They are not drop in cranks. This is why the engine builders typically wont sell them outright. They dont want the blame placed on them for something they really have little control over.
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my engine is almost done they dropped everything in and it looks good after clearancing the block it ll be ready to rock. they didnt have to do anything special to my crank that i know of and its the weber kit.
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The OP stated that the crank was available at a PAYING VENDORS site, that should have made you happy. The next posters mention Weber Racing, Hye Tech, and DLS then you come in here with your comment " Wow alot names mentioned in here...How about support the vendors that support the board guys". It seems pretty clear that the names mentioned are supporting vendors...except DLS. If I mistook what you were implying I am man enough to apologize for it. I wasn't trying to stir the pot at all. As far as the second grade stuff...well I wont even go there. You already know that you have a Current supporting vendor that wont even participate here anymore. If anyone else here was offended by my comment I apologize. I was offended by what I mistakenly took as Shanes intent. Bryan
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I am just trying to be fair to the guys that support the board...
I admit the GN1 thing struck me wrong. I had no idea F/T carried them. Then I saw the BA crap... Again another nerve struck... It was still by no means meant as a shot towards Dan... I apologize for jumping the gun, as it appears I did with my first post... I am trying to do the best I can do for this board and its members. Unfortunately you guys don't have to know and deal with all the behind the scenes BS that goes on in this little community. I get to here about and or deal with all of it So no matter what I say in certain threads it is going to piss somebody off...I am passionate about this board and the community. I have to do what I have to do to be fair. It is not easy and I am not perfect and I make mistakes... Long as you guys know in the end I am just trying to look out for all of us... Some people make a living of the TR world and thus are bind-ed in certain ways. I am not, this board is work for me that I treat as a stress reliever for my regular life. So a little money from a BB isn't going to make me loose my morals and principles!
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The cranks are internal balance only Thanks, Mike
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quote-this board is work for me that I treat as a stress reliever for my regular life. So a little money from a BB isn't going to make me loose my morals and principles! -unquote
you some nut,... into self abuse? to each their own, I appreciate the board, the info, and the latitude to express my opinion. Thanks!
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I just finished up a short block using one of the new 3.400 stroke cranks from DLS. It was absolutely perfect. I measured everything on it. Not to mention how well the race bearings bearing fit and how well they were custom chamfered to fit the cranks nice large fillets it has.
Dan has never let me down. His work is always flawless and he always goes the extra mile to make sure everything is going to work out well for me. His advice is worth more than you will pay for the parts. |
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