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November 15th, 2007, 05:55 PM
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Here is a picture of sbc v8,roller lifters and dog bones.
I'm basically using this same set up for my gn motor. "BIG" difference in price with same performance.
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November 20th, 2007, 10:04 PM
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is anyone using a fwd roller cam.
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November 21st, 2007, 09:57 AM
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Wow, not bad. I don`t know if i will trust that sheet metal plate in your application at high rpm. I would focus more on bolting each lifter guide plate to the block with a 8mm grade 8 allien screw with a lock washer and LOC-TITE on the threads.
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November 21st, 2007, 12:48 PM
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How many cars (there have probably been millions made since the plate spider was first used in the mid 80's) have you ever heard breaking the plate? How many people have you heard have some issues with regular aftermarket rollers... both hydraulic or solid...?? You won't have to look too hard to find some that have broken link bars... the lifter turned sideways... and wiped out the cam... and other stuff inside their engine....Not saying this happens to everyone... GM, Ford, and Chrysler all use the same (plate spider and dogbone arrangement) concept in their pushod roller lifter motors.... The concept is sound and proven IMHO.
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1987 Buick GN Currently getting freshened up.... Old Parts: 60# injectors, 3" TH DP with test pipe and hooker cat back, Walbro 340 pump, Razor's Alky, TT Chip, 3-1/2" MAF pipe with Big Mouth CA Kit and LS1 MAF, Translator.... yada yada New parts: Ported heads with stainless valves, RJC FMIC, T&D 1.65 roller rockers, Comp XR2 Hydraulic Roller 210/215@.050 .549/.549 (with 1.65 rockers), champion ported intake, Hemco stock appearing doghouse, PT70 P-trim turbo with H comp. housing, N/A109 block bored .030 over with head studs, main studs #2 and #3 billet main caps, cometics, TRW forged .030 over slugs with hastings moly rings. New times soon. (1/8) 8.002 @ 86 mph 12.650 @ 106 mph with a 1.71 60' time with the stock turbo/dutt neck intercooler (best mph was 107.69 mph)
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December 1st, 2007, 09:56 AM
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fwd roller cam parts
I Agree!!
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December 1st, 2007, 09:59 AM
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fwd roller cam.
I know one person who is working on fabricating the fwd roller cam to fit the gn motors.still in testing phase.
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WWW.CFGNT.COM CENTRAL FLORIDA MACHINE AND SPEED 87T-Type- 109Blk .030/billet caps/ported heads-intake/comp218cam/62tb/rjc-pp/msd 50's/10" converter/pt54 turbo/lt1maf-transl/3.42 gears/ scanmaster 441 flywheel horsepower@18psi boostalky 2000 Chevy Tahoe Limited(police package)5.7 litre T.S.M.-109blk(thanks,87gta-turbo)precision72 turbo/.85ar,rjc girdle/crank scraper,weber 218 billet roller cam, ported/polished heads 1.77valves ported to stage2 specs,70tb/pl,rjc pp,85lbinjectors,.040 pistons,double pumper,th400,art carr 9.5 converter from Cal Hartline,tony dequick v-2 frontmount from Louie Lopez.Both engine and tranny built by me.Special thanks to Central Fl Machine and Speed,Hartline Performance,Kenny Wells Performance, Louie Lopez and Ace Hardware(lol).
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December 1st, 2007, 12:18 PM
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This is one of the best threads on turbobuick.com. Thanks for being a pioneer man! We can all learn a lot from this!!!
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January 11th, 2008, 07:58 PM
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Roller cam
subscribed.
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January 11th, 2008, 08:21 PM
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Man I'd be all over that for for my stocker car.
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January 12th, 2008, 12:09 AM
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87Buickracer if you get with me and send me the measurments of that stand off i can make you two of them out of stainless steel or a harden steel that way you don't have to have the stud and the spacer floating. Im a U.S Navy 1st class Machinist with over 18yrs of experiance. my cell is 262-506-8190 ask for Steve
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January 13th, 2008, 02:26 PM
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Blazer. Doug
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January 13th, 2008, 03:10 PM
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That's Blazer's point. Whether your using metal dog bones or plastic antirotation retainers like on the ls1 or the 3.1 V6, it's a sound design and I am not aware of any failures ever happening.
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January 13th, 2008, 11:20 PM
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Actually I guess I have never been inside an LS1 based engine....
My goal is at some point to have a second black GN clone.... with a 6L Ls1 based truck engine... with L92 heads.... and two TE45-A's... on pump gas and alky..... 4L80E..... 8 sec potential on pump gas...... can't you feel it  My point was that GM didn't bother to use the noisy link bar design... and what they got ... works fine.... ... and no flame taken Doug....
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1987 Buick GN Currently getting freshened up.... Old Parts: 60# injectors, 3" TH DP with test pipe and hooker cat back, Walbro 340 pump, Razor's Alky, TT Chip, 3-1/2" MAF pipe with Big Mouth CA Kit and LS1 MAF, Translator.... yada yada New parts: Ported heads with stainless valves, RJC FMIC, T&D 1.65 roller rockers, Comp XR2 Hydraulic Roller 210/215@.050 .549/.549 (with 1.65 rockers), champion ported intake, Hemco stock appearing doghouse, PT70 P-trim turbo with H comp. housing, N/A109 block bored .030 over with head studs, main studs #2 and #3 billet main caps, cometics, TRW forged .030 over slugs with hastings moly rings. New times soon. (1/8) 8.002 @ 86 mph 12.650 @ 106 mph with a 1.71 60' time with the stock turbo/dutt neck intercooler (best mph was 107.69 mph)
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January 13th, 2008, 11:21 PM
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I want a ride!! Oh and BTW: Maybe you could use E-85, instead of pump gas and ALKY.. you might like it
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************************** 1987 ME-R , 83#, TA-61 ,24 Row Mease Stock Location, Hurst Lightining Rods and some other stuff, Sleeping right now 1987 White Turbo-T E85Daily Driver Who says the stock turbo can't make power Need chips, go here: Http://www.turbotweak.com ************************** It is what you learn after "You know Everything" that is the most important.
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January 14th, 2008, 01:35 AM
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my interest is peaked
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January 14th, 2008, 04:53 AM
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roller assy.
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in this use. when using 3800 rollers they fall deeper into the keepers than they should. when you look at the pic you will see that the lifter is not flush with the retainer on the heel of the cam. if you use the 3800 lifter guide plates they do need to be clearanced to clear the block inner wall. if you go to a different motor, they are already cut to clear. ( a 3.8 or 4.1), also using the 3800 lifter it has a hole that comes out from the valve lifter body in the wrong location, casing a large leak at medium lift, and cause a problem, that you will see when you pull the end oil plugs. there are roller gm lifters that cure that problem also. WHY did I changed it for the better. when going to a ford lifter. I centerless ground down the the lifter quite a lot, then left .003 or what ever i needed and reamed the lifter guide, then stoned bored the lifter guide to my final size. Why go over size?? the lifters are made to run at .0005 to .0008 in cleara |
