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Hydro boost vs power boost vs Vac Brakes
Im looking to do a brake conversion and have been wondering which to go with or if I should keep what I have. I have the power boost in my 86 GN and a Vac set up in my garage ready to install. But like what I hear about hydro boost. So what do you guys like, and the reason for it. My purpose is for reliability, stopping power and lastly building boost at launch.
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http://www.lubedealer.com/vegassynthetics/ the internet is like some sort of magical retard gateway through which you can access all the stories of the dumbest morons on the planet 89 TTA #1080 K.I.A. 86GN 76,800 Miles. Mods: PT62, 009's, Power Plate, Amsoil 9" cone filter, Eastern FM, ATR 3" DP, Scan Master 2.1, Convo Pros/BFG DR, Walbro , Razor Alky, Max Effort Thumb Wheel, ATR Pitbull Exhaust, Vigilante 3200 Stall, Trans and shift kit by Performance, 70mm TB.
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You will find people that will say.... go vacuum.... and there is nothing wrong with vacuum....it works well....as designed....and is real reliable. IMHO....however....the hydro-boost system provides far more breaking pressure (actual psi in the brake lines) than any vacuum setup....and even marginally more pressure over the failure-prone.... doesn't give a warning... powermaster.....
To the best of my knowledge, the powermaster was only available a couple years.... while the hydro-boost systems are still being built today on many makes/models of vehicles...... enuff said... Go hydroboost.... you won't find a brake system any more capable of holding a car at the line.... w/o a tranny brake....
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1987 Buick GN Currently getting freshened up.... Old Parts: 60# injectors, 3" TH DP with test pipe and hooker cat back, Walbro 340 pump, Razor's Alky, TT Chip, 3-1/2" MAF pipe with Big Mouth CA Kit and LS1 MAF, Translator.... yada yada New parts: Ported heads with stainless valves, RJC FMIC, T&D 1.65 roller rockers, Comp XR2 Hydraulic Roller 210/215@.050 .549/.549 (with 1.65 rockers), champion ported intake, Hemco stock appearing doghouse, PT70 P-trim turbo with H comp. housing, N/A109 block bored .030 over with head studs, main studs #2 and #3 billet main caps, cometics, TRW forged .030 over slugs with hastings moly rings. New times soon. (1/8) 8.002 @ 86 mph 12.650 @ 106 mph with a 1.71 60' time with the stock turbo/dutt neck intercooler (best mph was 107.69 mph) |
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I swapped to vac and love 'em... wouldn't change back to powermonster (or hydroboost) if they were free. All new components, less than $150, bulletproof reliability, brakes like every other normal GM vehicle. Turbo T/A has vac brakes... good enough for me.
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Brian MacKinnon Guntersville, AL 86 T-Type, mostly stock |
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HYDROOBOOST!!! I saw a kit on hear that im sure i could didnt afford, found a way to make it fit off a donor car, works like a champ. Think ill sell the setup from my house $600 installed, and $450 shipped! These brakes are amazing, i can build 15psi boost(on dirt!) if i wanted!
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87 GN, BB66,3000 westcoast stall,hotwire,walbro,DW,210/215 roller,4340 crank,65lb injt,homemade alky,Scan2.1. ect. |
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On the PM... I think you just have a rock hard pedal.... and maybe 10% if any braking effect when you push the brakes until your face looks like ....
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1987 Buick GN Currently getting freshened up.... Old Parts: 60# injectors, 3" TH DP with test pipe and hooker cat back, Walbro 340 pump, Razor's Alky, TT Chip, 3-1/2" MAF pipe with Big Mouth CA Kit and LS1 MAF, Translator.... yada yada New parts: Ported heads with stainless valves, RJC FMIC, T&D 1.65 roller rockers, Comp XR2 Hydraulic Roller 210/215@.050 .549/.549 (with 1.65 rockers), champion ported intake, Hemco stock appearing doghouse, PT70 P-trim turbo with H comp. housing, N/A109 block bored .030 over with head studs, main studs #2 and #3 billet main caps, cometics, TRW forged .030 over slugs with hastings moly rings. New times soon. (1/8) 8.002 @ 86 mph 12.650 @ 106 mph with a 1.71 60' time with the stock turbo/dutt neck intercooler (best mph was 107.69 mph) |
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My car came with hydroboost from the factory and I love it. The car has the same stock rotors and calipers as the 85-87 but I can lock the sticky 245s on the front with no problem at any speed.
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84 hotair GN. 4.1L girdled with 8.5:1 JEs, 212-212 Comp Cam, GN1s, Ported stock hotair intake, Ford FM IC, TA66, KB headers, LT 3" DP, Innovative Turbo Systems external gate, 60lb injectors, Turbo tweak chip, and a few misc things. OLD COMBO mosly stock motor-12.91@110.3mph with boost somewhere between 8-18psi. No times with new combo yet. 06 Acura TL daily driver. |
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Vacuum works fine everywhere but on the starting line at the drag strip. It will not hold your car on the line if you have boosted the HP. Hydroboost all the way!
Conrad
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Turbonetic 66-S-BB-.63exh w/EVO WG (35mm) #10780, KB 70mm TB/Plenum, Champion port Intake/CI head/Fuel Rail/EGR B/O, Comp Hyd Roller #212/212 w/beehive, Scorpion 1.5 RR, ATR 3-bolt header/dual 3" Cat-Bk/DP301, 72# inj, RJC Pl, PTE TurboSaver, 12" B-Car frt/11" Baer rr disk, Hotchkis tubular up frt ctrl arms/frt sway bar, Metco rear ctrl arms & HNR sway bar, Eaton posi w/Moser 30 axle, GTA wheels, CAS V-1/St. Al. radiator, 4" cold air, XFI, GNX Dash, Autometer Dual Channel In. Air Temp, Billet Optima Battery Mnt, 9.5" ArtCarr LU 3k stall, DRW C. Al Tran. Pan w/700R filter. 11.6 @ 118 mph. Antifreeze in the Oil! Metal fines in Oil Filter. LOL. Jack Cotton (www.cottonsperformance.com) (413-789-0531) The Greatest! Cal Hartline (www.hartlineperformance.com) (321-722-1563) is next. |
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Sounds like some of you are using your hydroboost as a substitute for a trans brake.
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