TAI Class for 2008 BG Nationals

[GNBRETT]

So let me get this straight.... The new rules allow a Pontiac Trans Am with a turbo to enter this class but other Gbodys with now a 109 with a turbo is not allowed? How does that make sense?

So Pontiac produces a Trans Am for one year with a turbo motor SIMILAR to a GN yet other Gbodys with turbos are not allowed to participate in this event? GMC made the Syclone with a turbo motor so why are they not allowed. There is a Syclone link on this site just as there is a Pontiac Turbo TA link. Why does a Pontiac with basically a one year production turbo motor come before Gbodys with turbo motors in them now?

Wouldn't it make more sense to put Gbodys cars with turbo motors in vs. ones with a Pontiac?

This website is almost exclusively dedicated to Gbodys with turbos (GN, T Type, GNX, WE4, WH1...)

Considering the majority of people that watch or race in Bowling Greens participate in this board why was there never a Poll conducted to see what cars should or should not be allowd to compete in the TAI class?

Was this a unilateral decision? Who made these rules up?

Isn't the event called the "Buick (Gbody) GS Nationals"? I dont see Pontiac anywhere in that abbreviation. I love Pontiac TTA's. They have always been one of my favorite cars but it's certainly more of a Gbody event then a Pontiac one considering over 90% of the turbo cars that race in Bowling Greens are Gbodys. Cars with TA motors or any stage configuration were not factory options but there is and shouldn't be an issue with them running in other classes so if someone puts a 109 turbo motor in their Gbody car they should beable to participate in this event long before a Pontiac with a 109 should.

[Ttype83]

Originally Posted by Razor

The fastest car not always wins.. it must run round after round.. after round.. so a 12 second car can take this. Just like TSM with cars breaking..

TTYL

Julio

Hmm, I can run with in .2 tenths hot lapping... Time to put the wifes car on hold and start on mine Guess I need to start working on my reaction times too, it's only been 20 years since I had to worry about it

[Razor]

Originally Posted by GNBRETT

So let me get this straight.... The new rules allow a Pontiac Trans Am with a turbo to enter this class but other Gbodys with now a 109 with a turbo is not allowed? How does that make sense?

So Pontiac produces a Trans Am for one year with a turbo motor SIMILAR to a GN yet other Gbodys with turbos are not allowed to participate in this event? GMC made the Syclone with a turbo motor so why are they not allowed. There is a Syclone link on this site just as there is a Pontiac Turbo TA link. Why does a Pontiac with basically a one year production turbo motor come before Gbodys with turbo motors in them now?

Wouldn't it make more sense to put Gbodys cars with turbo motors in vs. ones with a Pontiac?

This website is almost exclusively dedicated to Gbodys with turbos (GN, T Type, GNX, WE4, WH1...)

Considering the majority of people that watch or race in Bowling Greens participate in this board why was there never a Poll conducted to see what cars should or should not be allowd to compete in the TAI class?

Was this a unilateral decision? Who made these rules up?

Isn't the event called the "Buick (Gbody) GS Nationals"? I dont see Pontiac anywhere in that abbreviation. I love Pontiac TTA's. They have always been one of my favorite cars but it's certainly more of a Gbody event then a Pontiac one considering over 90% of the turbo cars that race in Bowling Greens are Gbodys. Cars with TA motors or any stage configuration were not factory options but there is and shouldn't be an issue with them running in other classes so if someone puts a 109 turbo motor in their Gbody car they should beable to participate in this event long before a Pontiac with a 109 should.

I dont understand the problem. 2 years ago this class was started and was one so that the TTA's could participate in. And lo and behold.. the two years the class has run, there have been TTA's representing. They have the same engines and transmissions as their GN counterparts. The class was made for them in mind.

So the class allows "Regals" with 109 blocks and TTA's. Did I miss something? The hybrids.. Monte's, Cutlass, Pontiac Grand Prix, etc.. With Buick engines.. have their own class they can race in.

So is the issue the word G-body or Regal. They are two different items. Even tho the chassis is the same. I didnt make the rules, except simplify them so we could have a nice payout in a class. One of the sticking points was the "Hybrid" meaning anything other than TTA or Regal.

[Grumpy]

as long as I have a GN grille and tail lights can I run this in the class It does weigh the 3450#s We are goin to put these 2 cars together to be one

[Turbo1dr]

Originally Posted by Razor

I dont understand the problem. 2 years ago this class was started and was one so that the TTA's could participate in. And lo and behold.. the two years the class has run, there have been TTA's representing. They have the same engines and transmissions as their GN counterparts.

So the class allows "Regals" with 109 blocks and TTA's. Did I miss something? The hybrids.. Monte's, Cutlass, Pontiac Grand Prix, etc.. With Buick engines.. have their own class they can race in.

This is not meant to be an attack but yes, you did miss something. I see that guys point. The TTA is a hybrid also and should have to race in the hybrid class. The hybrids also have the same drivetrain as the TTA.


Stupid rule IMO.

[8AV8]

Originally Posted by Turbo1dr

This is not meant to be an attack but yes, you did miss something. I see that guys point. The TTA is a hybrid also and should have to race in the hybrid class. The hybrids also have the same drivetrain as the TTA.


Stupid rule IMO.

Depends on how you define hybrid...

TTA is a factory configuration....no matter how rare.

A car with the drivetrain transplanted from a donor car seems to be what a hybrid is being defined as.

There will still be a hybrid class..right? Don't you wish there were enough people to seperate the class into a TAI class and a whatever other class for hybrids?

Nothing will ever make everybody happy.

[Slow91z]

Well **** if that's the case then you shouldn't be able to go buy a NA Regal and put a turbo motor in it to go TAI Racing.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by Turbo1dr

This is not meant to be an attack but yes, you did miss something. I see that guys point. The TTA is a hybrid also and should have to race in the hybrid class. The hybrids also have the same drivetrain as the TTA.


Stupid rule IMO.

Will you be racing in this class? If not.. then it shouldnt bother you. No offense.

Only those that will show up to BG and race their cars need to be posting. If not.. opinions at this point two months away.. arent needed.

I sent my Money to the GSCA for sponsorship...

[Mike Licht]

The rules came out too late for us to put a car together so I shut up. I will however honor my $250 sponsor pledge but not send it to the GSCA. I will be happy to send it to Razor or whoever he tells me to send it to.
Mike

[Otto J]

i was gonna race but no hydrids.SO i am leaving my car home

[Razor]

Originally Posted by Mike Licht

The rules came out too late for us to put a car together so I shut up. I will however honor my $250 sponsor pledge but not send it to the GSCA. I will be happy to send it to Razor or whoever he tells me to send it to.
Mike

Mike,
Send it to the GSCA. It must be there by this Friday so your credited on the newsletter. If you need contact info.. let me know and i'll help you. You dont need to send the money if you dont have it today, but do need to fill out the pledge form

Thanks for your support.

PS.. all you need is a running car with an alky kit.. maybe nobody shows Walk out with a big ol check and your 13 second car.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by Otto J

i was gonna race but no hydrids.SO i am leaving my car home

There is a Hybrid class..

Plus.. if you aint going to run in this class.. why ya posting

[Ttype83]

I won't be running this year, I can't get the car together in time and have to take care of a sick dog.

[TURBO 6]

I pretty much have the new motor dialed in with Eric's wideband chip. Dual nozzle is working perfectly. Can't wait.

Can we get an official "early" car count for the class?

So far:
Myself
JD
Russ
Melissa


Who else? Don't post if you think you may run. Post if you know for sure.

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by TURBO 6

Can we get an official "early" car count for the class?

So far:
Myself
JD
Russ
Melissa


Who else? Don't post if you think you may run. Post if you know for sure.

Melissa just moved into her new place today Car has taken a "back seat" here for now She said to me a house is more important than a car I thought I brought her up better than that

[TURBO 6]

Dan, all you can do is bring em up as best as possible and hope for the best. In your case it didn't work out. House over a car? People make mistakes. Why would you put your money in something that's gonna make money? Rent and race, that's the way to go.


So yall going or what?

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by TURBO 6

So yall going or what?

Well she has a lot goin on right now to be bothered with the car Let's see what happeneds in a month or so Been slacking off on the Mazda to since they can't run in the Alky class