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Old April 24th, 2008, 10:35 PM
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New one.
Let me know how the tests go.
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Old April 25th, 2008, 10:40 AM
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Absolutely. Just need to get the ignition system back and i'll be in buisness.
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Old April 30th, 2008, 11:28 PM
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The delay box is almost in. One more wire to hook up. It's the wire that will control the nitrous system delay. Then some dry testing to check the delay functions.

The delay box controls up to 5 circuits. I'll be using two. One for the nitrous system activation and one for the transbrake release. The delay timer will start on the release of the transbrake button at the first sign of the first amber. The nitrous will be delayed until some point after the second amber, then the transbrake will release around the third amber. The fun will be playing with the delay settings for each circuit to get the perfect launch attitude and reaction time.
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1984 BUICK Grand National with a baaad alcohol and nitrous chaser habit.
100% Methyl Alcohol Injected/Nitrous Oxide Assisted/Forced Inductions FI91X Turbocharged/TA Performance blocked/M&A headed/DRW TH475 Transmission/Neal Chance Racing Converters Pro Mod Torque Converter/Moser Engineering 12 Bolt Rear Axle Housing
Warning: Do not try this at home without proper adult supervision.
Ultimate Stage I BUICK V6 v3.2
GN details
9.19@145 from a 224 CID
5.73@122.1 in the 1/8 mile. Latest best.
1.28 60 foot.

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Old April 30th, 2008, 11:50 PM
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Don, have you ever looked into the 7531 MSD ignition? It has numerous outputs, timing controls and timers for nitrous use. It's a bit overwhelming when you first look at the software because it can do so much. The timers work around the transbrake release as well.
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Old May 1st, 2008, 12:17 AM
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If I were running a distributor, it might have been something to consider. I appreciate the suggestion though.
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1984 BUICK Grand National with a baaad alcohol and nitrous chaser habit.
100% Methyl Alcohol Injected/Nitrous Oxide Assisted/Forced Inductions FI91X Turbocharged/TA Performance blocked/M&A headed/DRW TH475 Transmission/Neal Chance Racing Converters Pro Mod Torque Converter/Moser Engineering 12 Bolt Rear Axle Housing
Warning: Do not try this at home without proper adult supervision.
Ultimate Stage I BUICK V6 v3.2
GN details
9.19@145 from a 224 CID
5.73@122.1 in the 1/8 mile. Latest best.
1.28 60 foot.

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If I were running a distributor, it might have been something to consider. I appreciate the suggestion though.
There's no way you can go that fast without a distributor!!

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Old May 2nd, 2008, 09:39 AM
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There's no way you can go that fast without a distributor!!

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Sorry. Must have missed that memo.

Delay box is in and functional. I'm going to program in my delay as being .218. The cars rollout at .240 seconds and the time the nitrous is on before the transbrake releases at .400 seconds. I think this should turn out to be a tame launch.
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1984 BUICK Grand National with a baaad alcohol and nitrous chaser habit.
100% Methyl Alcohol Injected/Nitrous Oxide Assisted/Forced Inductions FI91X Turbocharged/TA Performance blocked/M&A headed/DRW TH475 Transmission/Neal Chance Racing Converters Pro Mod Torque Converter/Moser Engineering 12 Bolt Rear Axle Housing
Warning: Do not try this at home without proper adult supervision.
Ultimate Stage I BUICK V6 v3.2
GN details
9.19@145 from a 224 CID
5.73@122.1 in the 1/8 mile. Latest best.
1.28 60 foot.

'Perseverence is the key to innovations endless possibilities and varieties locked within each of us.'
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Old May 2nd, 2008, 01:02 PM
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Donnie,
You kill me...timing things to 1/1,000 of a second! LOL!!
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Old May 2nd, 2008, 08:24 PM
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What can I say. The racers at my local track are tough!
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1984 BUICK Grand National with a baaad alcohol and nitrous chaser habit.
100% Methyl Alcohol Injected/Nitrous Oxide Assisted/Forced Inductions FI91X Turbocharged/TA Performance blocked/M&A headed/DRW TH475 Transmission/Neal Chance Racing Converters Pro Mod Torque Converter/Moser Engineering 12 Bolt Rear Axle Housing
Warning: Do not try this at home without proper adult supervision.
Ultimate Stage I BUICK V6 v3.2
GN details
9.19@145 from a 224 CID
5.73@122.1 in the 1/8 mile. Latest best.
1.28 60 foot.

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Donnie,
You kill me...timing things to 1/1,000 of a second! LOL!!
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Old May 2nd, 2008, 08:35 PM
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LOL! You guys are killing me.
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1984 BUICK Grand National with a baaad alcohol and nitrous chaser habit.
100% Methyl Alcohol Injected/Nitrous Oxide Assisted/Forced Inductions FI91X Turbocharged/TA Performance blocked/M&A headed/DRW TH475 Transmission/Neal Chance Racing Converters Pro Mod Torque Converter/Moser Engineering 12 Bolt Rear Axle Housing
Warning: Do not try this at home without proper adult supervision.
Ultimate Stage I BUICK V6 v3.2
GN details
9.19@145 from a 224 CID
5.73@122.1 in the 1/8 mile. Latest best.
1.28 60 foot.

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Old May 6th, 2008, 11:24 AM
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Import Drags at Barona

This Friday night their having import drags at Barona. I'm taking the car up to show them what good ol' American iron can do. I hope no Toyota trucks show up.

Any cars are welcome.

I hear there's going to be hoochie mamas too. How come Buick events don't have hoochie mamas? Could bring attendance up.
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1984 BUICK Grand National with a baaad alcohol and nitrous chaser habit.
100% Methyl Alcohol Injected/Nitrous Oxide Assisted/Forced Inductions FI91X Turbocharged/TA Performance blocked/M&A headed/DRW TH475 Transmission/Neal Chance Racing Converters Pro Mod Torque Converter/Moser Engineering 12 Bolt Rear Axle Housing
Warning: Do not try this at home without proper adult supervision.
Ultimate Stage I BUICK V6 v3.2
GN details
9.19@145 from a 224 CID
5.73@122.1 in the 1/8 mile. Latest best.
1.28 60 foot.

'Perseverence is the key to innovations endless possibilities and varieties locked within each of us.'

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Old May 8th, 2008, 05:43 PM
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How come Buick events don't have hoochie mamas? Could bring attendance up.
Because most of the women you see driving Buicks are more likely to be considered hoochie grandmamas.
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Old May 8th, 2008, 06:19 PM
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Because most of the women you see driving Buicks are more likely to be considered hoochie grandmamas.
You know, I was thinking the same thing when I made the post. I asked myself, where would you find the girls to participate in something like that? Someones grandchild? That just doesn't seem right. "Hey Bufford. Your grand daughter sure is looking mighty fine up there on stage. Hubba, hubba." It just doesn't work, does it.
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1984 BUICK Grand National with a baaad alcohol and nitrous chaser habit.
100% Methyl Alcohol Injected/Nitrous Oxide Assisted/Forced Inductions FI91X Turbocharged/TA Performance blocked/M&A headed/DRW TH475 Transmission/Neal Chance Racing Converters Pro Mod Torque Converter/Moser Engineering 12 Bolt Rear Axle Housing
Warning: Do not try this at home without proper adult supervision.
Ultimate Stage I BUICK V6 v3.2
GN details
9.19@145 from a 224 CID
5.73@122.1 in the 1/8 mile. Latest best.
1.28 60 foot.

'Perseverence is the key to innovations endless possibilities and varieties locked within each of us.'

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Old May 10th, 2008, 12:05 PM
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An interesting issue came up with the delay box. Whenever I would activate the line loc solenoid, either purposely or by accident, on deactivation of the line loc solenoid, the delay box would reset. The reset wire lead to the delay box is not connected. I really have no need for it so I left it wound up, off to the side and out of the way. I can only figure that EMI from the collapsing of the magnetic field of the line loc solenoid is causing a surge in the delay box, causing it to reset without direct command from me. The components and electrical circuits are well spaced from each other. Hmmm.

I'm going to double check the configuration of the reset circuit and try connecting it to a ground source, instead of leaving it open.

The way I have this delay box configured, whenever it is powered up or the 'launch in' wire is activated, the transbrake solenoid activates. It made things interesting when I down shifted to 1st while rolling up to the staging lights after the burnout. Not the kind of thing you want happening if you accidently tap the line loc switch in the middle of a run. Especially when the delay box also partially controls the N20 system.
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1984 BUICK Grand National with a baaad alcohol and nitrous chaser habit.
100% Methyl Alcohol Injected/Nitrous Oxide Assisted/Forced Inductions FI91X Turbocharged/TA Performance blocked/M&A headed/DRW TH475 Transmission/Neal Chance Racing Converters Pro Mod Torque Converter/Moser Engineering 12 Bolt Rear Axle Housing
Warning: Do not try this at home without proper adult supervision.
Ultimate Stage I BUICK V6 v3.2
GN details
9.19@145 from a 224 CID
5.73@122.1 in the 1/8 mile. Latest best.
1.28 60 foot.

'Perseverence is the key to innovations endless possibilities and varieties locked within each of us.'

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Old May 10th, 2008, 12:25 PM
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I just checked on that lead that I thought was a reset lead. It's actually a pause or advance (depending on how the user has it configured) command lead. I doubt that's the problem. I'm going to monitor the main 12V feed lead to the delay unit to look for voltage spikes from the line loc solenoid. I may need to install a filter.

Other than that problem, the results of using the delay box are very promising. The last time span of nitrous activation to transbrake release tested was .460 of a second. The launch was dreamy. Not too soft. Not to hard. Just right. The car left nice and flat. I'll be increasing the time span .01 of a second at a time to see what's out there.

My reaction time delay setting was a different matter. I could not get used to releasing on that first amber. Practice, practice, practice.
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1984 BUICK Grand National with a baaad alcohol and nitrous chaser habit.
100% Methyl Alcohol Injected/Nitrous Oxide Assisted/Forced Inductions FI91X Turbocharged/TA Performance blocked/M&A headed/DRW TH475 Transmission/Neal Chance Racing Converters Pro Mod Torque Converter/Moser Engineering 12 Bolt Rear Axle Housing
Warning: Do not try this at home without proper adult supervision.
Ultimate Stage I BUICK V6 v3.2
GN details
9.19@145 from a 224 CID
5.73@122.1 in the 1/8 mile. Latest best.
1.28 60 foot.

'Perseverence is the key to innovations endless possibilities and varieties locked within each of us.'

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Old May 16th, 2008, 12:28 AM
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Monitored the power feed to the delay box and found voltage spiking upwards of 70 volts on the release of the line loc solenoid. The spike was shutting down and restarting the delay box. Installed a Shogun 'Stop It' close to the line loc solenoid and the problem is solved. Testing to continue this Saturday.

The only way I was able to capture the voltage spike was with a scope meter. The min/max feature of a Fluke 87 volt/ohm meter was not fast enough to catch it.
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1984 BUICK Grand National with a baaad alcohol and nitrous chaser habit.
100% Methyl Alcohol Injected/Nitrous Oxide Assisted/Forced Inductions FI91X Turbocharged/TA Performance blocked/M&A headed/DRW TH475 Transmission/Neal Chance Racing Converters Pro Mod Torque Converter/Moser Engineering 12 Bolt Rear Axle Housing
Warning: Do not try this at home without proper adult supervision.
Ultimate Stage I BUICK V6 v3.2
GN details
9.19@145 from a 224 CID
5.73@122.1 in the 1/8 mile. Latest best.
1.28 60 foot.

'Perseverence is the key to innovations endless possibilities and varieties locked within each of us.'
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